congradulations on the time. i thought this thread was going to be a big block camaro or something. this makes me want to keep modifying my maxima.

 

You sir are a maxima god. Can't wait to watch you go even faster. Congratulations on breaking into the 10s.

 

you should get an in car view next time...

 

Congrats! I also thought by the thread title that it would not be a Maxima. Gotta love the VQ power!

 

weeeeeeeeeeeeeerd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

You know what else is awesome, you had a near fatal experience very recently, and not only bounced back from that faster than ANYONE other than yourself expected, but you ended up breaking 10's!!!!!!!

You shouldn't run anymore tens until you get a rollcage though, we can't risk almost losing you again

Congratulations again Jim

 

Wow! Thats just amazing to run those times and being able to figure out how to do it. Congrats on the Worlds Fastest Maxima!!!!!!

 

thoes are some insane times...good shyt jime.Cant wait to see what you do next season.

 

I can definitely agree here, this will shut lots of people up. Congrats Jim, quite a victory for family sedans across the nation.

As an aside, LMK how you get those wheel bearings "pressed" in and out, I am interested in how you can make that happen.

 

Amazing. Congrads man. Goes to show how much better autos are once you really start running fast. 1.58.. amazing.

 

i can go faster then that....i only with! my first love....the 4th gen..holdin it down!!! maddd props to you!!

 

Congrats Jime, from one cdn to another. Hmmm maybe I should switch back to getting go-goodies instead of show-goodies...

 

 

First off, let me Congratulate you on a extremely impressive time... I am glad to hear of a 10 second 4 door family sedan without boost. (juice is ok though )

However I am compelled to ask you something

How is it that a 107mph car goes 124.4 on a 75 shot and only goes 125.Xmph on a 125 shot? You gain an unheard of 17.4mph on a 75 shot then only 1mph from 75hp -125hp gain? I don't understand that.

 

You have to realize that I only made 1 run with the 75 shot and 1 run with the 200 shot, thats it.

The 125 was on a progressive controller that didn't start until 4500 and ended before the shift and started again at 4500 in next gear. Not too efficient and I didn't realize it wasn't staying on through the shifts and remaining at 100% until the next day. Also the 60' was slower that run so it increased the overall time as well. When you olny make 1 run at a particular setting its not a very good indicater.

Next year I will spend a little more time in the setup and testing. This was just a one-off to see what it would do. I had to stop messing around because qualifying and eliminations were starting and I went there to race, the run for the record was secondary.

 

Trust me I hear ya on that.. I next to never get out to the track, and when I do its a select few runs riddled with errors...

And you meant 75 single stage and 125 extra on a progressive? 200 total is a helluva hit. I see the car weighs 27XX if you don't mind me asking is that thing pretty stripped?

How much is that car putting down if you don't mind me asking.

 

It was 200 total for for alimited RPM range. Next time it will be 200 without the controller.

Its my daily driver, has all seats and interior etc but weight has certainly been removed, it weighs around 3000 stock.

Hasn't been dynoed for 3 years but at that time it was 260 and maybe another 20 or more now not too sure. I prefer to do my tuning on the road.

 

And a daily?? Like I said thats quite impressive...

Going from 12.85 @ 107 with mid to high 200whp to 10.987 @ 124.4 MPH with the addition of a 75 shot is a teeeeny bit hard to swallow though, lol.

But being a world record holder you should be entitled to thread without anyone pooping in your cheerios.

Good luck with the car!

 

I just posted like it happened. Timeslips, videos and a lot of witnesses back it up. I wouldn't ask anyone to just believe a timeslip.

 

Wow buddy. GREAT JOB!!!

 

He went from 12.34 @ 112.9mph NA to 10.98 @ 124 with a 75 shot. That is still a pretty big jump in trap speed.

Jim, when you recently did the 50 shot, you did 11.89 @ 114.3. Why do you think the straight 75 shot was able to give you so much more HP and do a 125 trap speed? I probably would have predicted a trap speed of around 116-117mph with the 75. The awesome 60 foot does help out the trap speed, but I didn't realize it could have effected it by that much. Was there any other change with your tune compared to the 50 shot run you did? Like ignition timing?

 

Last weekend with the 50 shot I was only running 15 deg adv, normally its 26 N/A. This weekend I ran 22 deg adv so huge difference in power. Just updated my website to reflect the timing. I was being pretty conservative when I first tried it out because I still had one more race to go and didn't want to mess up my points by not being able to run.

Finishing 1st is worth cash and free entry to next years events. On sunday I wanted to just run the 75 shot but after the 10.98 I said the heck with it and switched on the progressive 125.

 

That's a pretty good difference in timing! So, the 75 shot was with it advanced by 7 degrees? What kind of fuel? 2 step colder plugs still? Did you get a chance to the read the plugs? Did you have gobs of silver specs on the insulator?

I tried to run my 93 octane All Motor tune with the 75 shot, 110 race fuel, KS bypassed, and 2 steps colder, but it detonated. But that all motor program I ran had timing advanced a pretty good amount in some areas. Way more than 7 degrees. I couldn't hear it detonate though even when I ran it on the street with stock exhaust. But the plugs showed a lot of detonation.

But increasing timing goes a LONG ways power wise on the VE especially when you are spraying. I hope the VQ35 doesn't detonate as easy.

 

75 shot was 7 advanced from previous weekend 15 to 22. Just using Sunoco 94, had 110 race fuel but didn't use it. Haven't checked the plugs yet but they are NGK Iridium 7's 2 steps colder gapped @ .035.

I haven't been able to get the VQ35 to detonate and I have gone up as far as 35 deg adv N/A. However it didn't make any more power than at 26 so thats where it stays. I have 4 timing settings on my UTEC presently 15, 22, 26 & 30 that I can switch to and try and the track just have to be below 1600 RPM and push the switch.

 

That's pretty good to know. It is very easy to get the VE to detonate especially with nitrous.

So, are these the stock timing maps with just raised base timing? Or have you actually tuned all the rpm points in the timing map?

Like with the VE, it can't handle much timing advancement in the midrange, but below 3500rpm, it can handle a lot before it pings. And on top end, the power drops off before it pings. So if I were to raise base timing only, I can only raise it as much as the midrange can handle. But, there is a lot of power to be had by increasing timing even further below 3500rpm.

But thanks for talking about your setup so much on the org. You've always been a huge help!

 

Jim, that's good to know, and after running my 3.5 (with the stock '99 ECU) spraying a combined 150-shot of nitrous, I still haven't seen any signs of preignition/detonation on the 1-step-colder copper plugs. And I've been running that much nitrous from the beginning of first gear down through the traps.

I continue to use the VP 109 unleaded, for whatever safety cushion that might give me. Now that you've shown the way - again - I'm planning on raising the shot level yet this month. I'll do it in 25-shot steps, up to 175-shot (75 + 100) and then up to 200-shot combined, probably 100 + 100 shot. We shall see....

 

Get intake spacers like him.. I think it should help your time.

 

That was a quick run! can you imagine if you had that 1.58 60' with the 75 shot and then sprayed the 200 shot all the way down?! Your car definitely has LOTS more in it.

I also think one of the reasons you run so good times is because your automatic and the launches are better and more exact every time you go to run. The wide gearing in the auto helps with traction too. Your 60' mph has to be high...

ahhh i want to be in the 10's now...lol ... (im still in the 15's =[ )

 

With the UTEC its standalone timing so I have it set to run same timing across the board. Don't ask me why, just because. When I set it to 22 it fires the coils directly at 22 deg no + or -. Thats why its so much better than the E-Manage which does it piggyback. It does the fuel the same way without doing Speed Density but that option is there too.

 

I have always maintained that the auto was quicker when you start going fast, not without a lot of opposition. When I see a manual do a 1.5 I will take it back, until then autos rule. I do agree that N/A I may have a hard time beating a manual but even with a 35 shot I did a 1.63. The V8 guys do it for a reason and they have been at it a lot longer than we have.

 

i dont know of a car where the manual version is faster at the strip then the auto version

 

I am confident that a manual can pull a 1.6, but it's hard to do with only 210 ft lbs on a 3L. I also never got around to rigging up the front end to prevent lift, but still hit a 1.73, which isn't too far off. We'll see I guess, to each their own, at least it makes things interesting...

It does get harder to keep the drivetrain together on the manuals when the power gets high though...

My preference with the manual has almost nothing to do with the 1/4 mile though and everything to do with the driving experience on the street and/or road course.

 

There have been guys with a lot more than 210 ft lbs and a lot more than I put down haven't been able to do it.

I don't doubt a manual can do a 1.6, its the 1.5 I would like to see. I guess a manual can give you an experience but I only use my car on the street for transportation, the only experiences I have had in a car was in the back seat a long time ago and the car wasn't even moving.

 

Congrats. To pull this off is unprecedented. I'm sure the launch must have been all too scary but fun at the same time. Keep us informed for next year.

 

Hey do not forget he had open headers also, it's already been proven what a cutout will do with a boosted motor

11mph on a 75 is Mmmm but remember 75shot advanced timing and open headers and who know what other tricks jimes has up his sleeve

jime do chill your gas and I too would luv to see what your plugs look like

 

The only thing we chill is beer. You just never mind what other tricks are up his sleeve, you'll see next year.

 

Yes but what was their raceweight, tire and suspension setup etc. We both know there's a lot more to it than just power. I just threw in the 210 number because I referred to my car.

Hehe yes I've had a few of those kind of experiences too. I have no idea if I could hit a 1.5 or not with the manual, it would be tough I imagine. The whole manual vs auto thing is just personal preference though to me, and not so much about what is better, - better is in the eye of the beholder, and I happen to like manuals because I enjoy the shifting/driving feel and I plan to get more into road course racing in time. So I'm not going to go auto just for the sake of the 1/4 mile only. But I respect the prowess of the auto on the 1/4 mile, it is certainly evident. Same with nitrous, it is a legitimate 1/4 mile power adder although some don't like it. All of this is just personal preference (to me anyway).

 

I plan to come close to a 1.6 or 1.5 in the near future. My 1.7 wasnt bad but i want less or would this be more?

 

Does he have tranny coolers?

Could you imagine if maximas were AWD... we would be in the 7's easy..lol

 

Or RWD for that matter.