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Old Apr 11, 2001 | 09:58 AM
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MY 89 max needed a serious brake job..rotors pads all that good stuff. So i wanted crossed drilled but aint feel like waiting 10days to get it shipped so i called good Ol Pep Boys. They had there "premium rotors" in stock...so i told them to hold a pair and i will pick it up in 2hrs and gave them my first name. To make a long story short there was a new guy behind the counter. He thought i already paid...walk out with free rotors. Went to my boy(nissan Mechanic) he hooked me up with free pads...Installed the rotors and brakes for an L....and life is sweet I guess we all catch breaks some time. No pun intended
Old Apr 11, 2001 | 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by KraZel
MY 89 max needed a serious brake job..rotors pads all that good stuff. So i wanted crossed drilled but aint feel like waiting 10days to get it shipped so i called good Ol Pep Boys. They had there "premium rotors" in stock...so i told them to hold a pair and i will pick it up in 2hrs and gave them my first name. To make a long story short there was a new guy behind the counter. He thought i already paid...walk out with free rotors. Went to my boy(nissan Mechanic) he hooked me up with free pads...Installed the rotors and brakes for an L....and life is sweet I guess we all catch breaks some time. No pun intended
Congratulations. Your lack of integrity and moral courage probably just cost some poor guy his job. You're the man. Now you and your "boy" can sit back tonight and laugh at him and talk about how life is sweet.
Old Apr 11, 2001 | 12:05 PM
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opps did i hit close to home Perv.....do u work @ Pep Boys or something??? I'm sure alot of people would of did the same thing. Believe me all the people they ripped off...i think they could afford to give away free $50 rotors. But the "free" rotors are great and my car feels real good and safe now. Talk to ya later Perv
Old Apr 11, 2001 | 01:01 PM
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Originally posted by KraZel
opps did i hit close to home Perv.....do u work @ Pep Boys or something??? I'm sure alot of people would of did the same thing. Believe me all the people they ripped off...i think they could afford to give away free $50 rotors. But the "free" rotors are great and my car feels real good and safe now. Talk to ya later Perv

No, I am a Sgt on Active Duty in the United States Marine Corps. It is people like me who defend the "right" of gutless wonders like you to lie, cheat, steal, and do whatever else pops into your head.

Do realize that by stealing those rotors, you have become just like Pep Boys and "all the people they ripped off." You are awesome.
Old Apr 11, 2001 | 01:15 PM
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"What comes around goes around..."

It would be really ironic if in a couple of months one of the rotors cracked or broke during heavy braking. Not funny mind you. Just a thought. Two rules to live by 1. never steal from anyone, it's not worth getting caught (and for $50?) 2. Don't screw with someone's car (unless they sleep with your girl or steal/ mess with your car, I mean, come on!) Go back and pay for them, you'll feel better!
Old Apr 11, 2001 | 01:18 PM
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Old Apr 11, 2001 | 02:58 PM
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Hey its not that bad......

there are people around who have done worse and got away SCOTT FREE even when they get caught!!! we've all done bad things in life and like was said before, most of the time what goes around comes around....anyways we live in a world with a lack of integrity, morals and overall good nature anyways, so its unfortunate to say it, but whats a mere $50!?
Old Apr 11, 2001 | 04:00 PM
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Re: Hey its not that bad......

What about Honor? Is $50 worth that?
Do the right thing, pay for the brakes.
And what goes around DOES come around.
Pervis is right on target.
Old Apr 11, 2001 | 04:07 PM
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Well if the "what goes around comes around is true", then I got alot coming to me. I've been ROYALLY screwed by my local Nissan dealer over repairs and again ROYALLY screwed by another Nissan dealer for some crap clutch parts. I've also received the wrong parts on some really labor intensive parts(also from a Nissan dealer) The last two dealers did their best to work things out but not nearly to the work I had to perform. The first dealer was a straight up *******. Nothing short of a legal suit would ever settle anything. So in this case, I say hooray for the little guy.
Old Apr 11, 2001 | 04:18 PM
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If it happens to you does that make it ok to do it to someone else? What about the poor guy behind the counter just trying to do his job? Integrity has to start somewhere.
Old Apr 11, 2001 | 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by GBA
If it happens to you does that make it ok to do it to someone else? What about the poor guy behind the counter just trying to do his job? Integrity has to start somewhere.

yea well he didnt do his job right...teh brakes were not stolen teh new guy gave them to him
Old Apr 11, 2001 | 06:58 PM
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Not to make this political but....

wheres the honor in a lot of the stuff that people do in life everyday......governments all over the world are corrupt and pushing all types of BS laws and enactments(yes INCLUDING THE US) on its citizens, so answer me this...have all of them been repremanded or better yet has it "gone around back to them"....... so once agin I say whats $50, when our own government(yes the people we depend on to make the RIGHT and TRUTHFUL choices for us) and other governments do MUCH, MUCH worse than "steal" a $50 set of rotors!?

Originally posted by GBA
What about Honor? Is $50 worth that?
Do the right thing, pay for the brakes.
And what goes around DOES come around.
Pervis is right on target.
Old Apr 11, 2001 | 07:42 PM
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Re: Not to make this political but....

Originally posted by DA-MAX
wheres the honor in a lot of the stuff that people do in life everyday......governments all over the world are corrupt and pushing all types of BS laws and enactments(yes INCLUDING THE US) on its citizens, so answer me this...have all of them been repremanded or better yet has it "gone around back to them"....... so once agin I say whats $50, when our own government(yes the people we depend on to make the RIGHT and TRUTHFUL choices for us) and other governments do MUCH, MUCH worse than "steal" a $50 set of rotors!?

Did you ever stop and wonder how governments got corrupt in the first place? It was due to people making rationalizations in order to justify the petty misdeeds that were doing. Eventually, petty misdeeds add up in to bigger offenses.

Most criminals start small. The start stealing things that "don't matter" and work their way up to truly valuable items. A set of rotors becomes the whole car.

Governments became corrupted because people were unwilling to take a stand against the things they knew in their hearts to be wrong. They shrugged it off and said "what the heck, it is only a set of $50 rotors. Why should I care?" Then one day, they wake up and realize that the very people who were stealing $50 rotors now have the ability to directly affect their lives.

So I ask you, where do you draw the line? At $50.50? $100? If someone cannot be trusted in the small things, they sure as hell can't be trusted with the bigger things.
Old Apr 11, 2001 | 08:00 PM
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What goes around comes around

totally, couldnt have said it better myself. I dont believe in jack **** like religion and stuff, but this is one thing as i get older i truly believe in more and more. iTs happened to me WAY to many times to be coincedental hehe. so exactly what Chris Gregg said i couldnt have said better myself. just remember kid, what goes around comes around. you screwed pep boys, but your probably gonna be sh1tted on by someone.

i konw what your sayin though too, and its tempting to do that ****, oh well to each his own. **** i stole like little crap before, candy and you know what? (not anymore heh that was back when i was dumber) it always seemed like some a$$hole always ended up jackin somehting from me like my gold chain or wallet or somethin, it was my payback i swear!!
so just remember, karma, what goes around comes around.
Old Apr 11, 2001 | 08:05 PM
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Originally posted by KraZel
opps did i hit close to home Perv.....do u work @ Pep Boys or something??? I'm sure alot of people would of did the same thing. Believe me all the people they ripped off...i think they could afford to give away free $50 rotors. But the "free" rotors are great and my car feels real good and safe now. Talk to ya later Perv
Stealing parts for your car isn't worth it man...these people that Pep Boys "rip off" everyday get ripped off with high prices because, one, people like you stealing parts, and two, you pay for that extra convience of having parts stocked, that's why they mark prices up.

I hope your rotors last, but what comes around goes around...and karma isn't something you want to screw around with...especially when it's your brakes.

I don't know how old you are, but when you do things like you've done it gives others a bad reputation, and because "a lof of people would do the same thing" it doesn't make it okay for you. If you do, then I think you are in sad, sad shape.
Old Apr 11, 2001 | 08:16 PM
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I never condoned it....

just saying that petty crime is so overated in this society that we overlook the major crimes going on everyday. One example why waste money on busting small time drug dealer and drug users, when the "big dogs" keep pumping it in the country. Obviously arresting the small, little corner dealers isn't helping so why not go after the "big dogs"? Basically what I'm saying is big deal he got the $50 rotors, BUT what about the cops that get away with beating the **** out of and even KILLING people and get off free, did they get "theirs", or should I say have any of the MANY of theses cops got "THEIRS", were they held responsible for killing a man, HELL NO, they got off free and they are assigned to protect and serve us...why focus on whos gonna become a crook or ******* when we've already got plenty running around today IN POWER! and we are so blinded by petty theft and wrongdoing that this country is going to SH*T thanks to the *******s who designed or are "maintaining" the system and are the ones commiting the crimes! Yeah it starts small and gets to be bigger, but where do you think the small guys "coming up" get the mentality it from.....? I say go after the source rather than the "followers".

Originally posted by Pervis Anathema


Did you ever stop and wonder how governments got corrupt in the first place? It was due to people making rationalizations in order to justify the petty misdeeds that were doing. Eventually, petty misdeeds add up in to bigger offenses.

Most criminals start small. The start stealing things that "don't matter" and work their way up to truly valuable items. A set of rotors becomes the whole car.

Governments became corrupted because people were unwilling to take a stand against the things they knew in their hearts to be wrong. They shrugged it off and said "what the heck, it is only a set of $50 rotors. Why should I care?" Then one day, they wake up and realize that the very people who were stealing $50 rotors know have the ability to directly affect their lives.

So I ask you, where do you draw the line? At $50.50? $100? If someone cannot be trusted in the small things, they sure as hell can't be trusted with the bigger things.
Old Apr 11, 2001 | 08:18 PM
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Thank you, Pervis.....

But, Da-max, the government is representative of the society of which it governs. They get caught too. Clin <coff....coff> ton... We, as a society have simply become desensitized to the problems that plaque us. I question whether stealing the rotors says more about Zel or our society? I feel that it's not so much an issue that they were stolen (which they are), but rather the lack of self worth that Zel seems to carry that prevents him from going back and paying for the rotors. We've probably all stole, as children, but for the most part we are adults here. It's sad that Zel, you even come on here to brag about it. Seems the credentials of someone who's done something like this before? Hmmmm? Remind me never to order anything from you! Just to set the record straight, I'm not judging or flaming you, I just disagree and wonder why you came on the forum to brag.
Old Apr 11, 2001 | 08:26 PM
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I'm just glad that everyone seems mature enough to respect other's opinions without getting "hot headed." <Cheers> "To the Debat!"
Old Apr 11, 2001 | 08:29 PM
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guys i dont think its about this is about the whole governement and blah blah. we can bring all that into it, but this is just a case of a peddy little theft and a moral dilemma that a person faces. obviosly this wouldnt be considered very ethical, and in my eyes what goes around comes around. he shat on GG, he will be shat on. the brake rotors will probably be defective. Maybe the new guy gave him returned broken rotors not konwing it, or something cause hes so dumb and new.
Old Apr 11, 2001 | 08:32 PM
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BINGO!!!! Youre exactly right.....

why brag!? thats the route of the problem......
BTW, I understand everyones points and its always good to have a little debate so I close my part by saying there are a lot of problems in the world lets solve the big ones first, because the small ones will always be there as long as they have something to strive for! In no way did I condone the actions, but it just seemed petty to me compared to other major crimes in society, plus I just came back from a sociology lecture at school about slavery and civil rights so I guess I'm looking at the problem on a different view. oh well interesting to know how everyone sees things....

Originally posted by Chris Gregg
I'm not judging or flaming you, I just disagree and wonder why you came on the forum to brag.
Old Apr 11, 2001 | 08:37 PM
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Oh yeah.....

what was this post about in the first place!? talk about creating a whole new topic out of something. funny thing is dude who started it only posted TWICE in the whole thing!
Old Apr 11, 2001 | 08:41 PM
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Re: Oh yeah.....

Originally posted by DA-MAX
what was this post about in the first place!? talk about creating a whole new topic out of something. funny thing is dude who started it only posted TWICE in the whole thing!
He either A. is scared, B. returned the rotors but I'm assuming A. since he doesn't know what to say.
Old Apr 12, 2001 | 02:00 PM
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No i actually havent been on in a while thats y i didnt say ne thing....but i have to admit this is funny as hell!!!! What goes around comes around? U all made it deeper then it is.....I didnt steal it it was given to me(thats how i see it)I wasnt bragging...i just thought some people here may have njoyed the story...seeing that we all pay so much 4 repairs!!! i mean come on. Karma>?lol calling me inmoral...gutless...no integrity? LMAO This **** is so funny i have to laugh. I am probaly one of the most honest person that u would know if u met me. But if is gonna be like that then 4get all those who name call....seriously was it called for? NE way for those that njoyed the story Salute for those that didnt thanx for the post

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Old Apr 12, 2001 | 03:16 PM
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1 : to take the property of another wrongfully


I believe that's what you did. They did not just "give them to you", hopefully you don't think that they just gave you rotors not expecting payment.

What you did was not honest, I don't know what kind of honesty you are talking about. Apparently you are just teenager without any integrity.

When something happens to your rotors, I'll be the one laughing at you. Brake rotors aren't parts you want to fail.

Like you said, "Whateva doesn't kill u makes u Stronger...." You had better hope you are right.

Originally posted by KraZel
No i actually havent been on in a while thats y i didnt say ne thing....but i have to admit this is funny as hell!!!! What goes around comes around? U all made it deeper then it is.....I didnt steal it it was given to me(thats how i see it)I wasnt bragging...i just thought some people here may have njoyed the story...seeing that we all pay so much 4 repairs!!! i mean come on. Karma>?lol calling me inmoral...gutless...no integrity? LMAO This **** is so funny i have to laugh. I am probaly one of the most honest person that u would know if u met me. But if is gonna be like that then 4get all those who name call....seriously was it called for? NE way for those that njoyed the story Salute for those that didnt thanx for the post

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Old Apr 12, 2001 | 03:23 PM
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well good lord is it that deep? I took some rotors now u are hoping they fail and i get injured or Killed? I'm the one with no morals. Its ok next time i will be sure to pay!!! Geesh.
Old Apr 12, 2001 | 03:27 PM
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well good lord is it that deep? I took some rotors now u are hoping they fail and i get injured or Killed? I'm the one with no morals. Its ok next time i will be sure to pay!!! Geesh.
I'm not trying to be deep, you stole something plain and simple. I didn't wish harm on you, but wierd things happen to people who steal things, maybe not everytime, but when it does, it sucks.
Old Apr 12, 2001 | 03:32 PM
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You know that is a little extreme.....

wishing his brakes fail him!? its not really that serious...there is no integrety or morals when you say something like that, so you're just as bad when you tell him that! when I meant, "what goes around comes around" I wasn't going to the extreme of saying that he should be hurt or killed, in this situation, the $50 set of rotors isn't worth his life!
Old Apr 12, 2001 | 03:40 PM
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awww somebody does care

thank u very much...i mean now i see y everyone siad it was wrong i can understand that. But when u are broke and u can save the smallest amount of money...u tend to do just that! so if i could relive the situation again, i would pay for it. But what is done is done and i hope i dont get in an accident tonite going home froam a HARD DAY OF WORK
Old Apr 12, 2001 | 06:45 PM
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Re: You know that is a little extreme.....

Originally posted by DA-MAX
wishing his brakes fail him!? its not really that serious...there is no integrety or morals when you say something like that, so you're just as bad when you tell him that! when I meant, "what goes around comes around" I wasn't going to the extreme of saying that he should be hurt or killed, in this situation, the $50 set of rotors isn't worth his life!
I wasn't wishing his brakes to fail on him, but in my past experiences, that's the type of thing that happens. One of my buddies stole some gas, and something went wrong with a fuel filter or something and his car caught fire. I'm just saying....you should't steal things that you depend on...take something else less important...not that I condone stealing at all.
Old Apr 12, 2001 | 07:35 PM
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Clarification....

No one hates you, like said before, we are not trashing you. We are simply giving our opinions to what you have done, you advertised the act, so you brought it to us. It's that simple. I believe that most of what has been said directly reflects all of our frustrations when it comes to having something taken from us, it's a feeling of violation in the fact that someone could do that to you whether it is busting a window in your car and taking your system or like in another thread where you trust someone and they end up ripping you off for floor mats! I'm just glad this didn't get ubly, it could had, but everyone need to be heard and to vent in a mature manner. I think we've done that here.
Old Apr 19, 2001 | 02:23 PM
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You guys are being ****** to him. I would have done the same thing.....cuz I never have money...I have a job and I work almost full time, but I do not make enough money to pay for that kind of stuff usually, because I'm busy spending it on college, rent, utilities, and all that ****.... it's not fair for you to all accuse him of what he did and say that he "stole" the rotors, he didn't. If you get hired at a job, you're expected to know what you're doing... if that guy ****ed up then it's not his fault...
All I'm saying is give him a break. Maybe what goes around comes around....I've experienced it myself... but it's not like what he did is a habitual thing. It will probably never happen again....so back off the kid.
As for you KraZel, Salutation....I would have done the same thing :-)
Old Apr 19, 2001 | 02:30 PM
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YEAH !

thats what i am talkin about pimp!!! Nah let me stop...everyone is entitled to there opinion and its diffrent strokes for diffrent folks....but some of these cats they did act like I should of got LIFE in prison for that
Old Apr 21, 2001 | 01:22 PM
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Not being able to afford something doesn't mean it's morally okay to get it for free. It's not a right to get stuff.

Big problems are lots of small problems compounded on each other. What the cops should be enforcing is irrelevant -- this isn't about police enforcement, this is about an individual's morals.

The only way things get better is by each person doing their part to be a better person and to make things better. Saying "well, everyone else does it! look at all the worse things that happen! let's stop that!" is a cop-out. It's an excuse.

There will _ALWAYS_ be more and bigger wrongs out there. If you're going to wait till all the big problems are solved to stop creating additional smaller problems, no problem is ever going to be solved.
Old Apr 21, 2001 | 01:53 PM
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I understand how krazel feels, but I have been there before and for me at least my conscience would eat at me. I don't care how others screw me, I am not going to try to screw others to get mine. In the past that was ok for me but the price my conscience has to pay for that action is way more than paying for it. I do unto others as I would have them do to me.... I hope I run into honest people like myself who will not try to take advantage of me and those who take from me. Here's a story for you.......
About 3 years ago I was selling my old mustang. It ran great but it had electrical problems. When I sold it to a private party I did not disclose everything wrong with it and when they asked about why the wipers didn't work, I said I didn't know; that it must be a fuse or something when I knew that it was more. That ate away at me after they bought it. Less than a week later my integra was broken into and they stole my radar detector, CD changerl, some tools and they messed up my ignition. I really don't believe in 'karma' but I wonder whether that would have happened if honesty had been the best policy. Thank God my car wasn't stolen, I had no theft coverage.
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