Raced a GT eclipse this morning
05-01-2001, 06:44 AM
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This morning on my way to work a riced out 2000 eclipse Gt kept revving his motor at me. when The light turned green we were pretty even till he had to shift, Every time he did I got a little ahead of him. at about 90 i had almost a full car length on him. Needless to say he was surprised that a "family car" had beat him....... Max power forever... lol!!!
05-01-2001, 08:37 AM
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Are yu sure it was a GT....
especially a 5spd at that. thats a 200hp mid 15's car in 5spd trim..the 140hp models(RS, GS) are a little more believable, but a '00 5spd GT is hard to believe unless it was the "sportronic" 4 speed auto, which is still a quick car, but definently not as quick as its 5spd partner. but if you beat him, great job making him feel like a loser! 
it must suck when you constantly rev on someone and they blow you out the water in the good 'ole VG!
it must suck when you constantly rev on someone and they blow you out the water in the good 'ole VG!
Originally posted by hittin89gxe
This morning on my way to work a riced out 2000 eclipse Gt kept revving his motor at me. when The light turned green we were pretty even till he had to shift, Every time he did I got a little ahead of him. at about 90 i had almost a full car length on him. Needless to say he was surprised that a "family car" had beat him....... Max power forever... lol!!!
This morning on my way to work a riced out 2000 eclipse Gt kept revving his motor at me. when The light turned green we were pretty even till he had to shift, Every time he did I got a little ahead of him. at about 90 i had almost a full car length on him. Needless to say he was surprised that a "family car" had beat him....... Max power forever... lol!!!
05-01-2001, 09:50 AM
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NO WAY
there is no way a friggin' VG beat a new eclipse. those cars are way faster. the only way that could happen is if u were an incredibly good dirver, u had a 5-speed, and the driver of the eclipse was figgin blind AND deaf AND didn't know when to shift gears.
05-01-2001, 12:21 PM
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Well...
he did mention it was "riced out"...chances are the badging might have been swapped! the '00 RS and GS still only have 140hp, so VG auto could edge them and 5spds would smoke 'em! but no way you're taking a 5spd GT, haven't seen the "sportronic" 4speed in action so I don't know how it performs, but a 200hp sports car is a hell of a task for a auto VG Max....
05-01-2001, 05:24 PM
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Re: Well...
, but a 200hp sports car is a hell of a task for a auto VG Max.... [/B][/QUOTE]
you can say that again: I have a VE and the GT i tried to ***** w/ just pulled on me pretty damn Hard, but i know if i had a stick like he did, it would be different, for sure!!
you can say that again: I have a VE and the GT i tried to ***** w/ just pulled on me pretty damn Hard, but i know if i had a stick like he did, it would be different, for sure!!
05-01-2001, 06:37 PM
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You are lying like a ***** on a cheap bear skin rug in an hourly motel.
Considering all the feromagnetic material you claim to have in your trunk there is no way you took a 5 speed. Not to mention the 18" rims. Can you say additional unsprung weight??? Road and Track did a test about 3-4 years ago about going plus sizes in rims. you should do a little reading
the next thing you'll be claming to have taken an ls1 powered f-body or a 302 mustang...
Considering all the feromagnetic material you claim to have in your trunk there is no way you took a 5 speed. Not to mention the 18" rims. Can you say additional unsprung weight??? Road and Track did a test about 3-4 years ago about going plus sizes in rims. you should do a little reading
the next thing you'll be claming to have taken an ls1 powered f-body or a 302 mustang...
Originally posted by hittin89gxe
This morning on my way to work a riced out 2000 eclipse Gt kept revving his motor at me. when The light turned green we were pretty even till he had to shift, Every time he did I got a little ahead of him. at about 90 i had almost a full car length on him. Needless to say he was surprised that a "family car" had beat him....... Max power forever... lol!!!
This morning on my way to work a riced out 2000 eclipse Gt kept revving his motor at me. when The light turned green we were pretty even till he had to shift, Every time he did I got a little ahead of him. at about 90 i had almost a full car length on him. Needless to say he was surprised that a "family car" had beat him....... Max power forever... lol!!!
05-02-2001, 12:45 PM
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We're the *******s....
yet you mentioned nothing of these "mods" before hand...hmmmm?? 
anyways what you do to the engine to get it to 242hp?? and a 2.25" exhaust can't be helping thing thats much with a 200 shot of NOS behind it?? so basically you're pulling close to 400hp???? I'm just curious about the setup you're running, not doubting you just curious... and you mean to tell us that with over 400hp(or 242 "off the bottle") you only beat the Eclipse by ONE car length........ummmmmm if you have all the mods you say you have than something is very wrong with your car!!
anyways what you do to the engine to get it to 242hp?? and a 2.25" exhaust can't be helping thing thats much with a 200 shot of NOS behind it?? so basically you're pulling close to 400hp???? I'm just curious about the setup you're running, not doubting you just curious... and you mean to tell us that with over 400hp(or 242 "off the bottle") you only beat the Eclipse by ONE car length........ummmmmm if you have all the mods you say you have than something is very wrong with your car!!
Originally posted by hittin89gxe
ok since its been awhile since Ive been on here and you all turned into a$$hole$ I figured Id update my profile to show you all how stupid you must be.
ok since its been awhile since Ive been on here and you all turned into a$$hole$ I figured Id update my profile to show you all how stupid you must be.
05-02-2001, 01:24 PM
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Re: Were the *******s....
low on the blinker fluid? 
Originally posted by DA-MAX
yet you mentioned nothing of these "mods" before hand...hmmmm?? anyways what you do to the engine to get it to 242hp?? and a 2.25" exhaust can't be helping thing thats much with a 200 shot of NOS behind it?? so basically you're pulling close to 400hp???? I'm just curious about the setup you're running, not doubting you just curious... and you mean to tell us that with over 400hp(or 242 "off the bottle") you only beat the Eclipse by ONE car length........ummmmmm if you have all the mods you say you have than something is very wrong with your car!!
yet you mentioned nothing of these "mods" before hand...hmmmm??
anyways what you do to the engine to get it to 242hp?? and a 2.25" exhaust can't be helping thing thats much with a 200 shot of NOS behind it?? so basically you're pulling close to 400hp???? I'm just curious about the setup you're running, not doubting you just curious... and you mean to tell us that with over 400hp(or 242 "off the bottle") you only beat the Eclipse by ONE car length........ummmmmm if you have all the mods you say you have than something is very wrong with your car!!
05-02-2001, 03:10 PM
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hmm
Originally posted by nodoubt711
200 shot of nos is very impressive on an 89 vg motor and transmission. how long do you think your car will last with that much boost? hope you have a tranny cooler if you are an automatic.
200 shot of nos is very impressive on an 89 vg motor and transmission. how long do you think your car will last with that much boost? hope you have a tranny cooler if you are an automatic.
@ this, i wonder if we will see hittin89gxe again?
05-02-2001, 03:27 PM
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I didn't just become an a$$hole I've allways been one!
Ok lets look at this logicly?!
200 shot=~200hp
200+160=360
approximate loss by auto tranny= ~30% at the wheels = 252.
your 242 hp claim is 32.7% loss ok it is believeable, but you have no ecu to mange this new found power. with out a FPR or an ecu you woud run lean at the top. By my guess you would need larger injectors to top it off.
18" rims and tires add a lot of unspring weight. for ever additional pound you add at each corner you loose ~5 hp at the wheels. Not to mention the additional rotational mass.
Also have you ever heard of torque steer???? even at stock power the car exhibits a decent amount of torque steer off the line. Espicaly in wet or snowy conditions. with that kind of power on tap you'll have some difficulty keeping it in a straight line......
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Ok lets look at this logicly?!
200 shot=~200hp
200+160=360
approximate loss by auto tranny= ~30% at the wheels = 252.
your 242 hp claim is 32.7% loss ok it is believeable, but you have no ecu to mange this new found power. with out a FPR or an ecu you woud run lean at the top. By my guess you would need larger injectors to top it off.
18" rims and tires add a lot of unspring weight. for ever additional pound you add at each corner you loose ~5 hp at the wheels. Not to mention the additional rotational mass.
Also have you ever heard of torque steer???? even at stock power the car exhibits a decent amount of torque steer off the line. Espicaly in wet or snowy conditions. with that kind of power on tap you'll have some difficulty keeping it in a straight line......
Fro
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Originally posted by hittin89gxe
ok since its been awhile since Ive been on here and you all turned into a$$hole$ I figured Id update my profile to show you all how stupid you must be.
ok since its been awhile since Ive been on here and you all turned into a$$hole$ I figured Id update my profile to show you all how stupid you must be.
05-02-2001, 07:08 PM
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If large diameter wheels give such a great edge to acceleration; why does nascar use 13" rims?? Most forms of pro racing use small diameter wheels .....
You can argue it all you want physics doesn't lie...
You can argue it all you want physics doesn't lie...
Originally posted by SkyMax
Who cares if he has 18" wheels. I know plenty of people with over-sized wheels that can still run pretty good times. For example Vitaly (using 18"s), MY 4DSC (using 19"s), Me (using 17"s). Those are just a few examples...
Who cares if he has 18" wheels. I know plenty of people with over-sized wheels that can still run pretty good times. For example Vitaly (using 18"s), MY 4DSC (using 19"s), Me (using 17"s). Those are just a few examples...
05-02-2001, 07:52 PM
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Heh, Nascar also uses carburators (sp?), not exactly the best way to make your point. Usually lower sidewall=better at the limit properties. The reasons big wheels hurt acceleration is, of course, all the extra weight, but if you spend enough money you can get lightweight wheels to compensate. With most production-based classes of racing low-profile tires are the weapons of choice. NASCAR is highly refined dinosaur technology, the open-wheel guys...hell, I don't understand why they have such small wheels, maybe weight considerations, maybe the same reason buses and other large vehicles have large sidewalls ie lots of air in the tires except they compensate for downforce instead of weight. Talk to a tire engineer if you really give a damn.
05-02-2001, 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by FroMan
If large diameter wheels give such a great edge to acceleration; why does nascar use 13" rims?? Most forms of pro racing use small diameter wheels .....
You can argue it all you want physics doesn't lie...
If large diameter wheels give such a great edge to acceleration; why does nascar use 13" rims?? Most forms of pro racing use small diameter wheels .....
You can argue it all you want physics doesn't lie...
05-02-2001, 08:17 PM
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Originally posted by Kchrpm
Heh, Nascar also uses carburators (sp?), not exactly the best way to make your point. Usually lower sidewall=better at the limit properties. The reasons big wheels hurt acceleration is, of course, all the extra weight, but if you spend enough money you can get lightweight wheels to compensate. With most production-based classes of racing low-profile tires are the weapons of choice. NASCAR is highly refined dinosaur technology, the open-wheel guys...hell, I don't understand why they have such small wheels, maybe weight considerations, maybe the same reason buses and other large vehicles have large sidewalls ie lots of air in the tires except they compensate for downforce instead of weight. Talk to a tire engineer if you really give a damn.
Heh, Nascar also uses carburators (sp?), not exactly the best way to make your point. Usually lower sidewall=better at the limit properties. The reasons big wheels hurt acceleration is, of course, all the extra weight, but if you spend enough money you can get lightweight wheels to compensate. With most production-based classes of racing low-profile tires are the weapons of choice. NASCAR is highly refined dinosaur technology, the open-wheel guys...hell, I don't understand why they have such small wheels, maybe weight considerations, maybe the same reason buses and other large vehicles have large sidewalls ie lots of air in the tires except they compensate for downforce instead of weight. Talk to a tire engineer if you really give a damn.
05-03-2001, 12:04 PM
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I don't know about taking it...
I think it would be rather close, but MUCH, MUCH more believable than the crap this other guy is spittin! IMO the newer V6's look a little heavier than the 4cyl. 2nd gens, but I figure all in all they are lighter than a Max, but who knows if that will make a significant difference, but there is only one way to find out.....
Originally posted by davis449
Ok, well, to get back to the real subject. I bet my VE could take a 5-spd GT Eclipse. I can play around with the Turbo 4's enough.
Ok, well, to get back to the real subject. I bet my VE could take a 5-spd GT Eclipse. I can play around with the Turbo 4's enough.
05-04-2001, 08:31 AM
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hey guys. ok, i went from a stock sized tire to a 215/50/15 and i noticed an increase in power immediately. My 1/4 times improved by .20 seconds on the first run. It wasn't the weight, but the mechanical advantage that i got. Also, large diameter wheels are defenitely for mostly show purposes. once you get above a 16" rim, you begin to get cosmetic, and not performance. you can get a 13x7.5" racing rim, and if you're runnin road course ,that's what you want, if you're runnin Drag, unless you have a TON of HP to waste, then you don't want to go to a huge diameter. For all around driving, I wouldn't go above a 16" diameter. also, i get so annoyed when wheel companies claim that larger diameter rims increase your performance. anyway. just my $.02
05-04-2001, 01:39 PM
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I must admit that I'm a NASCAR fan. You're right, they perfected dinosaur technology. They happen to use 15" wheels. Just thought I'd clarify.
My 16" BBS wheels are lighter than the stock 15" wheels by a couple pounds. Not automatically heavier because the diameter is bigger. Depends on the wheel.
We may never hear from him again, but I though he hung tough for a while. Personally, I though we would have lost him on "Feromagnetic."
My 16" BBS wheels are lighter than the stock 15" wheels by a couple pounds. Not automatically heavier because the diameter is bigger. Depends on the wheel.
We may never hear from him again, but I though he hung tough for a while. Personally, I though we would have lost him on "Feromagnetic."
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