rick's 92

Iwent out side to start my car and it started up ok. But then i gaveit some gas and i heard a little clanking noise and then it died out.

dude88888

will it turn over and not start? If so, I would check the timing belt.

rick's 92

it does start .

MrGone

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The car died or the noise did?

rick's 92

The car stays started but it wants to die out. when I gave it some
gas it clanked a couple of times and then stopped. It now just sounds like it doesn't want to stay running.

dantegl

maybe you need a tune up...?

dmontzsta

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VE's dont have timing belts they have chains.

dmontzsta

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I think the clanking you heard was VTCs if the car is still running, then there is tuning issues. I would start with the most bulletproof check of them all, start pulling plugs one at a time and see if you can find a cylinder with no change.

You might also want to make sure you didnt foul a plug.

Wiking

You have to start from basics: fuel, air, ignition. The question is TOTAL loss of one of these three, not just one injector or plug.

My bet is on electronics, ECU does not get his share. If camshaft sensor blows, oldies (-92 ?) will not start - test. If inhibitor relay is not activated, no start - try bypass. If no fuel press, no start etc - test for hose stiffness...

See sensor testing here:

rick's 92

thank for the help.

Wiking

What I was after: as engine cuts off, it might vibrate and cause a noise normally not heard. That might be a mechanical breakdown, but typically is not. So if its now rotating without bad mech noises, I would start from the "normal" troubleshooting as described... Btw. my meddling in here does not close out the other valuable input on this thread.

rick's 92

Does anyone know the readings of the fuel injectors and what they supposed to be?

Wiking

Check all out, should be in line. I've measure only with o scill o scope [see my web page for sensors], but the Ohms reading was smtg aroun 14Ohms? anyways between 10-30. Somebody please help out...

Note: One dead injector does not kill engine.

Listen to click, tells aslo that coils are ok: screwdriver on the injector, ear on the handle - start. --- Or take cam sensor off and rotate while ign on.

markmaxima

did it rain some time before you tried to start your car, you could have water in your exhuast system or water in your fuel system, when i had a four inch muffler water used to get in my muffler, as i was driving my car wanted to cut off but i kept gunning it until it was fine, i wish you luck.

dmontzsta

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Ricky,

They should be in between 10-14 usually they are 11-12 anything other is a little off. Did you replace both injectors I tested as bad?

Also, water in the exhaust? hahahaha

rick's 92

thank for the help.

dmontzsta

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You are welcome...

rick's 92

i what to start my car it mad a load noise can some one tell me what it is i call a shop and they said it was my battery was low. are can it be my start are something .

dmontzsta

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It could be a bunch of different things. What kind of noise was it? How does the car act when it starts? once it is started, how is it acting?

rick's 92

it did start it just made a load noise why i try to started.

dmontzsta

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Is it running normal now? or still rough?

Is it a whining/grinding sound? if so, it could be the starter staying engaged after it is started, which means it could be going bad, or it could be a loose connection to it. What side is it coming from?

rick's 92

it sound like under the car.

dmontzsta

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It goes away right?

The car is running fine?

I would seriously have to hear it.

Wiking

1. Test gas pressure

2. Spark

3. Injector click

Keep posting... dont check.

rick's 92

well thank for the help.

rick's 92

you guy all right but i well stop posted about this thank rick.

rick's 92

i found what is noise was it was my metal o-ring broken that fit the cam shaft and removed the broken half that was moved around in side the engine block. ....

dmontzsta

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Did you take it to the shop?

Did they fix it?

rick's 92

i did take it to a shop but they said it is going to coast 650.00 of the part it salf.

dmontzsta

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ouch, that sounds high. You could get another motor for that. Call John and ask him.

rick's 92

donald how much do you think i well get for my car if i sale it. how much do you thank and i know it not a 5 speed.

dmontzsta

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hmmm...well...people do not like mods (lowering, exhaust, intake) that would make them steer away from buying it, so definately strip it to stock and sell the mods. (You could make probably $500-$750 off the mods). Then I would say $2,000 for the car BONE STOCK. BUT with this new problem, you are looking at ALOT less, someone will offer you probably $1,000-$1,500. I would seriously get another estimate. OR Buy a junkyard motor for $300-$500 and have John put it in for $250 (total $550-$750) and you have a newer motor and a spare motor with fuel injectors and all the goodies.

rick's 92

so my max is not worth nothing i paid 2.500 of it and putting mods on it seem worthes.

dmontzsta

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Well, thats what happens with cars, you NEVER "make" money on them...they always deppreciate. Some of the guys on the boards payed $30k for their 5th gens and now they are only worth $15k, it happens, no matter what kind of car you drive. I paid $14k for my 92 and now it is worth probably $2500.

Henry paid $40k for his 5 series and just sold it for $18k.

rick's 92

should i jst junk the car are sale it for 1,500.

dmontzsta

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I think you need to make that decision. I know I wouldnt junk my car for the world, I would always see a 3rd gen and remember my baby.

1.So you junk it and get basically nothing...
2.You sell it for $1500 and buy a ****tier car for $1500...
3.You fix the problem for $750+ and have a running car again...
4.You buy a junk yard motor and have John put it in for $750 and have a newer motor and a car running better than ever.

Either way, you will NEVER be able to replace the 3rd gen for the money.

internetautomar

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I paid less than $1500 for mine
sold a VE5 for less than that
there's another one for sale for less than that near me

dmontzsta

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Personally I would go with option 4. For the money you will get selling the car, you will not get a better replacement.