geoff.doctor

Hello, I just bought a 93 Max SE with 90k on the motor. When it starts and occasionally at low RPMs theres a ticking. Could this be the VTC? and if so what can I do to repair it. I haven't tried the yota filter yet. Sorry for such a dumb question, but my last car was a 90 so I didnt have to worry about any of this stuff.

3rdgene

should of stuck with the vg's maintentance is much easier

subs1000w

ha ya right the ticking is kinda anoying but it adds insult to injury when he smokes a poor VG

3rdgene

im still waiting to get beat my a ve...hasnt happened yet lol

3rdgene

i own a vg and ve and my vg would trash my ve

3rdgene

well if i put the mods i have on my vg to the ve then different story

bhunter

iTrader: (3)

Could be VTC's or could be exhaust manifold studs. From what I understand the VTC fix is expensive. I live with mine.

nelledge

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I'd like to know what mods on your VG that makes it faster than the VE?

3rdgene

very exspensive i am about to rebuild mine on my 93.

Cliff Clavin

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Only the labor is expensive. It is a very time consuming process.

As for the ticking VTCs on startup, if you change the oil every 3k miles and use the Toyota filter, it will likely not get much worse for quite a while.

I would also say that the maintenance isn't easier on a VG. You don't have to worry about T-belts breaking on the VE or replacing them every 60k.

Not to mention adding 30 hp without any mods. Also, I would like to see a non-turbo VG run under 15 seconds in the quarter mile. Until one of you can do that (and show a time slip), zip it about your VG "trashing" VEs.

geoff.doctor

What about using a 1 ton press and rebuilding yourself? I have another car so it is alright if this is out of comission for awhile.

Cliff Clavin

iTrader: (11)

The rebuilding part isn't hard. I think MrGone and Aaron92SE both did it without a press. The hard part is taking the engine apart and putting in the new VTCs. You can't make any mistakes and there are lots of things you have to take apart.

nelledge

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Mine make minimal amount of noise only during warm up, so I don't have the experience of replacing them... Yet. This link is from the FAQs section. (You should check out that section. It's a wealth of information.) Also, if you donate and search there have been countless posts on the repair or replacement of the VTCs. Some have luck, and some don't. The latter probably dependent on wear of VTC and skill of 'mechanic'. Try it out if you have optional transportation and decent mechanical skills.

geoff.doctor

Already saw that, it looked interesting. And don't worry, after all the help Ive gotten I am definantly donating

Travis92se

iTrader: (2)

Before you go to rebuild your VTC try and clean the connection for both of the solenoids. Sounds crazy but I clean mine with some Electrical Connection cleaner and put in some grease for electrical connections and they quit ticking all together. You might as well try it before you go through all of the trouble of a rebuild!

3rdgene

i said my vg could trash my ve. Mainly because i have almost every mod other than a turbo, supercharger, and nos. Plus i already stated ve's have more potential to run faster, but that isnt the case now since my money is in my vg.

nelledge

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You're talking about a 30hp deficit right off the line. It would take numerouse bolt-ons to even get close to that. Not that you don't have a bunch. I just wanted to know what you had in that VG that could possibly shut down a stock VE?

3rdgene

udp, headers, catback, hi-flow cat, computer upgrade, flywheel, CAI, advanted timing, upgraded ignition with nology ignition wires, im probably leaving more out...but yeah a stock ve doesnt stand a chance. Camshaft on the way and im bout to bore out my throttle body....and eventually down the road i will make time to turbo it.

Jeff92se

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I don't think that's 30hp. But nothing a 1/4 time or a dyno couldn't verify though. Would like to see a good vg dyno. Right now modded VEs are putting down at the wheels more than a VG is putting down at the flywheel.

mtnbikeair

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Im trying to figure out why you would have a VE and a VG but choose to put all of the money into the VG...

The only thing you can get for a VG that you cant get for a VE is headers right?

nelledge

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I agree. I hate to be pessimistic, but I just don't think it adds up. A dyno slip would be the perfect thing to shut me up, though.

MrGone

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I own 2 VE's and constantly trash VG's

Cliff Clavin

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With all of that, you might be the same or slightly faster than a bone stock VE. Of course, a VE with similar mods would beat you by probably a full second in the 1/4 mile. Go ahead and post some time slips or dyno sheets like Jeff said.

From what I can remember, there hasn't been a NA VG that ran better than high 15s. There are probably a dozen NA VEs that have ran in mid to high 14s.

3rdgene

thankyou red...thats what i was trying to imply...i beat a bone dry stock but obviously not a modded ve.... They are both modded but i modded the vg first with experimental reasons