My spring break starts on the 10th...pay my gas and I'm there!

 

hope that kid comes through cuz i want to c the gains on the vg.

 

PAY HIS GAS MANG!!! FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL VG'S!!!

 

EDIT Dannys right. Any one else interested? we should have results soon enough.

~Alex

 

this is starting to stray away from the interest thread

 

Please try to keep this thread on topic. Please post if you think you are interested.

PM me if you have any questions. Thanks.

 

Sign me up. I live in Alachua, FL just North of Gainesville off of I-75 in North Central Florida. If you are driving through here you can use my car for measurements. It's just sitting at work. Let me know. 352-727-8258

Thanks,
Mark

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I will be driving up I-95. But I won't be anywhere near Gainesville. Sorry. Thanks for posting!

 

I-95 in Jacksonville is about 1 1/2 hrs. from here, so that's 3 hrs. out of your way. You're still welcome, but no pressure. I'm sure you'll find someone close. Have a good trip!

 

Please post if you are interested in buying a spacer kit, but can not block the EGR system due to emissions testing in your area.

The kit that I will make for the VG will include an EGR block plate just like the VE kit. But for those of you who can not delete the EGR system, I will be providing a replacement EGR Tube which will be flexible Stainless Steel with the correct metric fittings. I would like to know how many VG and VE guys are interested since the tube for the VG and VE will be the same. Right now, the projected price for the replacement EGR tube will be $50 with the purchase of the spacer kit.

 

I need one of those... but can i wait to buy it till i actually need to pass emissions?

 

Is there any downside/ disadvantage to blocking the EGR system besides emissions reasons?

 

Hey Aaron what do you think will the kits for the VGs put out more gains or around the same than the VE's what would be your educated guess....?

 

Ben- Theres possibly a mpg difference as one of the times the EGR is open is when your cruising. But I think using less throttle (or you'll need to use less) will give the same MPG.

Im going to be taking two long trips with the maxima soon. (the exact same route) hopefully I'll have the kit before the second trip. It'll be a perfect test of the MPG difference.

Maxed90- PM Aaron about that.

~Alex

 

Yes, you can wait.

No there isn't. I am still testing this on the VG. If it's anything like the VE, then there won't be any problems. You will only gain more horsepower since you will be eliminating all the dirty, hot exhaust gases from recirculating in your intake. I will definitely have more concrete information as I conduct my testing in the next couple weeks.

There is no way to tell at the moment. But right now, I definitely see a potential in the VG motor! Since there is coolant flowing through the IM, once that is bypassed, the temperatures will decrease with the help of the spacers! Also, I believe the kit will consist of an upper IM spacer, TB spacer, and a Collector Elbow spacer! So it will include more than the VE kit. That will result in cooling temps in the upper IM, the collector and the entire intake piping! I am very confident gains will be seen!

 

Sounds great can't wait to see what the gains are keep up the great work!

 

interested, w/ egr

 

Add Me In Alex I Want A Kit. Also Need Help With Installation Let Me Know Wen Everything Is Good And Updated Thanx

 

Count me in, if I haven't already said so.

 

How much would it cost to get one of these kits sent to Australia? If it's not overly expensive I might be interested in getting one of these kits.

 

Shipping to Australia is not that bad. I might be able to ship this for $25 or so. The package for the VE30DE weighs less than 2 lbs.

But I have to find a test vehicle first so I can design the kit! Still looking!

 

Do you have a test car yet? I'm in Raleigh, 1990 GXE. PM me.

 

Nope, I haven't found a test vehicle yet. You got PM!

 

You have now... see you tomorrow.

To all the rest of you guys: This is what you've been waiting to see - I'm the test car. Taking temps and measurements tomorrow, and then he'll be able to draw up the mechanical drawings and make a protopye, slap it onto my Max in a few weeks, test it... and then... you guys get yours.

 

We'll take it one step at a time. The first step is to conduct testing to make sure their is a potential temperature and performance gain. Next, is to check for fitment issues. After that, I'll tackle the EGR and coolant bypass issues. If everything goes smoothly, then it's possible to have this kit in 4-6 weeks.

 

Well yeah.. it's not an absolute sure thing that it'll be such a huge success. Not to shoot people's hopes through the roof, sorry if I made it seem like I was promising something that you're making as being imminent, when it's just about to begin R&D.

 

Capedcadaver met with me today and we designed a kit for the VG. I ran into a lot of different problems, but I think I have come up with a solution for you VG guys that will yield good results and should cost less than the VE kit!

Right now, the kit should include one TB spacer, one TB collector spacer, one AAC spacer, longer bolts, two coolant bypass fittings, and installation instructions.

The kit will not include an upper IM spacer or an EGR block plate kit.

The EGR system on the VG is a lot more complicated than the VE. There are several things that change with each year on the VG between 89-94. So in order to accomodate everyone, I'd have to make about 3 or 4 different variations of the same kit and the price shoot above $200 for one kit.

So, with the design that I have right now, you will be able to to keep your stock EGR system.

The temperature readings that I took show a lot of potential for a horsepower gain! The upper IM was getting close to 170 degrees and the TB was getting above 160 degrees!! That is WAYYY hotter than the VE got! I mean way hotter!

Once you install these spacers, the TB, collector and upper IM will be much much cooler. I expect temperature decreases more than the VE even without the upper IM spacer! The kit will be EASY to install too.

So right now, Alex is sending me some spare parts that I will base my CAD drawings off of. Once I get those, I'll have the drawings made within a couple weeks and have them machined.

Thanks for everyone's help.

 

Wait a minute... not to be a **** or anything but i commited to paying 145$, not $200+, i might have to drop out of this if i cant get the cash.

Maybe later though... keep us posted on the price.

 

Please read my post again.

I said that this VG kit is expected to cost LESS than the VE kit.

If I made the kit include an upper IM, EGR block kit and/or EGR tube replacement, the cost would shoot above $200 quickly and I know you guys won't like that.

By having the upper IM spacer, I don't see a big enough gain that can be had to offset the price increase. So I am eliminating that particular spacer which will GREATLY reduce the projected price of the kit!

You can now start breathing again! I'll take care of you guys!

 

I understood to say it may be cheaper than $145. I've already got rid of my EGR valve, so no concern for me. I'm in, nothing else, I'd be interested to see any differences on a turbo charged VG.

 

O ok good to hear, ill definatly be in then! Was scared for a second there!

Arron rules once again

 

Sorry about that!

 

Quote Of The Day: "Feel this [upper IM].. feel how hot it is. You feel that? On my VE, right after a race, it's cool enough I can put my forehead on it." -Aaron
"Ow, CRAP... man, that is hot. (I had just touched a 160*F chunk of metal...)" -Jared

 

lol that quote is funny , so there will be no need for the other things included in the VE kit, would they actually make more of a difference? gj on gettin this going though

 

He was explaining to me that it'd make a difference, but a) very small in comparison to all the rest of the spacers in the kit he's planning on making, and b) not at all cost-effective for that small extra gain. The main gains, he said, will come from the TB/Collector/AAC spacers, and coolant bypass, which is exactly what he's working on for the kit.

 

So how many people are still officially "in" now that he's finally able to work on the design?

 

I Am Still In For Sure But Would Like To Know How To Install If Possible. But Count Me In.

 

I decided that it's not worth the price increase just to have the Upper IM spacer. It will help if you had it, but not by alot. Also, b/c of the insanely complicated design of your upper IM, the price for the kit would be raised by about $90 just by including this spacer.

Now that I have eliminated this spacer, the estimated price of the kit has drastically dropped well below the $145 price for the VE kit.

I will keep everybody post just as soon as I get the official pricing on the VG kit. Also, just to let everybody know, because of the very small demand for these spacers, I will need to set up a group deal for these spacers. This will allow everybody to get an even lower price plus it will ensure that I make enough kits since I don't plan on mass producing them and keeping many kits in stock. As soon as I come up with a final price for the kit, then we will start accepting payments for the group deal. Once we think we have everybody on the list, I will have the spacers machined and the kit will be available for sale within 2 weeks.

Please let me know what you guys think about this.

This kit will include full instructions on how to install everything.

 

I'm 100% in, would like to see some extras made though for members of the future or people that cant round up the cash yet.

Just my .02

 

I will have to make this a seperate group deal. Like I said in one of my posts above, in order to make the upper IM spacer for all VGs, there would be like 3 or 4 variations of the same kit. Some have an EGR valve with a BPT (maybe with and without an EGR temp sensor). Some have an EGR valve with an exhaust gas temp sensor that can't be bypassed. And some have the plain old EGR system that can easily be blocked.

So for those that are interested, later down the road, I can make an EGR block plate kit along with the upper intake manifold spacer. But I won't be able to guarantee it will work on ALL VG30E Maximas without showing a CEL.