Not sure about max power, but that B13 made 600 awhp with it.

It's not progress, I've thought about this for some time now. It's still very difficult, uncharted territory.

No offence but, if you think that a chart should be made, good luck with making a 3rd gen awd or rwd.... You need to do ALOT of research and you need hands-on custom fab experience before attemptimg something like this.

 

it's VG30E no D

 

If you really mean a vg30de. It won't fit... I bought two vg30de's in the past and didn't 5 minutes to know it won't fit. It can fit on the condition that you cut out the firewall. Which even as chop happy as I am, I wouldn't do through that much trouble... Welll maybe... hmmm.

 

Dooooo it! Dooooo it! Dooooo it!

 

then why does it say VE30(DE) on the engine bay plate on the fire wall. not being smart just a question.

 

Because a VE is not a VG. Two completely different engines...

 

yea dude re read what you quoted him on, he said VG30E and you were originally talking VG30DE and now you're coming saying how come it says VE30DE

 

 

WOW i really made myself look like a d&mn fool on that one didnt i . sorry about quoting you on something i misunderstood man. my bad.

 

Just to clear things up though:

1989-1991 Nissan Maxima GXE: VG30E (Auto Only)
1989-1991 Nissan Maxima SE: VG30E (Auto or Manual)

1992-1994 Nissan Maxima GXE: VG30E (Auto Only)
1992-1994 Nissan Maxima SE: VE30DE (Different Auto w/VLSD Or VLSD Manual)

 

somebody sticky that particular post

 

After a while you will understand how Nissan codes there engines. V is a V6, E as a second letter is Aluminum block, G is cast, 30 is engine size (3.0 liter), D is dual cam, E is electronic injection. T is turbo, TT is twin turbo, Each letter designates a certain part.

Correct me if I am wrong OG.

 

the VE is an iron block not aluminum
V means a V configuration on the cylinder banks (used on V8 as well)
second letter = ?
3rd and 4th = usually displacement in liters
D (if present) = DOHC
E = Electronic injection
i= injection (usually electronic so not sure of the difference between E and i)

 

all this info is in the stickies,has been for many years,most people are simply too lazy to search for it.

 

the trans info (other thread) isn't though. at least not that I recall.

 

The VE is a cast block? I learned something there. Someone once told me it was an aluminum block with steel sleeves. I have only owned one VE Maxima, it was very worn out and not very impressive, so I never really cared for them or to know about them.

 

My participation in this thread has ended.

 

the VQ got the aluminum block and that's why everyone loves them.

 

That could be where I was confused. I think people like the VQ for more than the aluminum. I haven't heard ANYTHING bad about them. Strong, lightweight, very buildable, with good aftermarket support.

VG's have their limitations, though I love the torque-iness.
VE's have the dreaded VTC clack, and no real aftermarket support.

 

not everyone...........

The VE is as good or better of an engine as the VQ will ever be..you know as well as i do the only reason the VE was not continued on or improved into other gen maximas was due to the serious financial straights nissan was going through att of the end of 3rd gen production into the production of the 4th gen. The ve was just too expensive of an engine to produce during nissans financial problems.

 

where is this VG aftermarket support you speak of? right,there was none either..these cars are/were already too old att of the ballooning of import car aftermarket support.

 

Agreed. The VE, for the three years it was actually in production was actually an astounding engine, especially seeing as though they had no real time to work out any kinks due to financial problems. Many VE's without even touching the VTC's will go past the 200,000 mile marker.

I am seriously thinking about having my VTC's replaced now that I am in the early stages of clacking, another 150,000 miles of clack free miles sure would be nice for $600 of engine repair throughout a 16 year driving period when it was released in late 1992. Along with the damn near bulletproof transmission it was paired with.

VE's do have to be properly maintained and although I love them and want to share their awesomeness, only a handful of owners really should have these engine's. All my friends think differently about maxima's after riding in mine, but the truth is, with the neglect most car owners give, the VE is not an engine for everyone, however...

For the overly obsessive compulsive car junkies, the VE is probably one of the most rewarding engines you can have.

edit: I almost forgot about the huge problem of replacing a $60 knock sensor that usually doesn't go out until or near 150k miles

 

The VE was at it's time a technological marvel.
the VQ however makes the samepower, with out all the gizmos of the VE and with an aluminum block.
if the VQ had been installed in a 3rd gen, you would have one hell of a car.

 

WikiPidi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nissan_engines

Nissan Motors uses a straightforward method of naming their automobile engines. The first few letters identify the engine family. The next digits are the displacement in deciliters. The following letters identify features added.

Letter Feature
D DOHC, Variable Valve Timing, or Direct Injection
E Electronic Fuel Injection
HR High Response and High Revolution
I Throttle Body Fuel Injection
S Electronic Controlled Carburetor
R Supercharged
T Turbocharged - this can also stand for Twin Carburetor
TT Twin-Turbocharged
V Variable Valve Timing with Lift

 

Sorry brian,but the ve is and always has been a HELL of an engine,nissan was to deep in debt att of it's production to continue with it.

woop dee doo about the vtc's..if you know how to remedy the problem,they are not an issue at all.

As far as the vq aluminum block is considered,the only reason they went with it,vs. the iron block was due to falling aluminum prices att of production,vs the rising cost of iron,the iron block has much more longevity/strength vs. an aluminum block.

 

There is VG support for the 300Zx and truck community. You can find much there. It is much better than the VE support, which is nil.

 

I never said it wasn't a hell of an engine, but I'd take the VQ because it keeps the better features of the VE and weighs less.

 

VE support = Aaron

 

Nismo also used to produce VG30E racing parts for the z31

 

What I need to research is, probably what others already know.

What engines match what transmissions and why. Probably OD bell housing and bolt profiles. Compare to others. I've never heard of a tranny being interchangeable with other engines. Maybe on domestics.. and maybe on imports, but probably only on very similar models.

I still need to look into the components between the engine and tranny that actually are in contact with each other, how they connect, Etc...

The only thread of hope I have about putting a transmission NOT-meant for a specific engine is to modify the bell housing to bolt-up, or custom fab a conversion plate. My company does this with petroleum hardware, but our products don't facilitate the transfer of power and stress... which is not my bag.

Has anyone custom fabbed a conversion plate to connect two different bolt profiles between an engine and the transmission they wanted? The gap would have to be made up on either the engine or transmission side. What would need to be extended? Is it possible or are the components that connect to each other static and un-adjustable? If they are static.. could they be replaced with longer counterparts if there is no added stress applied due to leverage on shafts?

My life is a problem. My job is a problem. My boss is a problem. Haters are a problem. The whole world pressing in on you is a problem. I analyze problems, I find solutions, I succeed. Not always cost-effective.. But It's possible.

 

Yeah... Man I live on that page right now.

Lately I have the Wiki/niss/engine page tattood on my forehead. Still lacking alot of into there. Width, length, height? Weight?

Think I don't know about wiki or clusty.com?

 

Not the same enigines as our 3rd gen vg,come again?

I'm talking specific applications for our 3rd gen vg.

 

the motor itself is the same, the exterior bolt ons are different.
some trucks had the VG30i which would be different.

 

but what aftetmarket upgrades are we talking about here? good quality intakes/turbo kits/superchargers kits/other? I mean pretty much bolt on applications.

There is none of these specific aftermarket parts for either ve/vg maxima engines.

 

I like the fact that the VE is Iron, but I don't think the gallies are adequate for high-performance. Its just not RB engineered. The Iron block on the 2JZ series is well reinforced and the gallies generous, not to mention other features.

 

What the hell does that have to do with the price of tea in china?

 

the Ve is what it is,I accept it as that, a fine quality engine by nissan,why not just focus your efforts on improving this engine,instead of trying "circus freak' the car out as matt said,it really wouldn't take anymore effort/research/$$ on your part to upgrade the ve,instead of trying to put an engine in there that the car just wasn't designed for..

 

Cams, Pistons are though.
Turbo kits (factory made that), intakes can be easily fabricated by someone at home. you can't fabricate cams at though. to me the cam is a bit more of a necessity when really looking to make power.

 

Yes,intakes can be fabbed up quite easily at home,with the availible info here,but a turbo? c'mon brian,even a prefabed turbo kit is not for the light hearted,you must have more than just basic mechanical experience for this.

But hasen't matt had issues with tuning his ve after going to a more agressive cam angle?

 

the VG has a factory made turbo kit.
cams aren't for the light hearted either.

turbos have been applied to many cars that never had the option by people with little more than time and patience. Turbos are an easy add on relatively speaking.

I do not know what, if any, troubles matt is having tuning with the cam.