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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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perfect wheel fit?

was looking for some new rims for my '92 to replace the stock ones, and i heard that other 5 lug nissan rims (240zx, 350z, etc), mustang, and mitsubishi eclipse rims will fit. i picked up 4 mint mitsubishi eclipse rims with fairly new goodyear tires on them for $300

the bolt pattern is exactly the same. the eclipse rims should fit dead on, right? when i called to get a appointment to get em swapped, the guy was and said if its not gonna be a perfect fit, dont bother coming, yada yada yada. he also said he didnt think they would fit, but all i told him is its mitsubishi wheels going onto a nissan, i didnt even say the model of either of them. it looks like it will be a perfect fit, but just want to make sure the bolts should fit and everything. the place with the pissy guy will do it the cheapest ($20 to swap), but if i it might not be a definite perfect fit i might go somewhere else where i wont get decapitated for them not fitting flush

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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 09:25 PM
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Why don't you just jack up your car and test fit one? If the new ones already have tires, you can swap them yourself for free.

I am not sure what the offset is on the wheels you got. The hub bore might not work, either.

I have a friend with a 92 Talon and he has some 17x7 Enkeis with a 42mm offset, which is a little bit tucked on a Maxima, but will fit. I had the exact same size rims and they were fine on the front and I used 5mm spacers for the back.
Old Feb 6, 2009 | 09:26 PM
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bolt pattern is the same, yes (5x4.5), but the backspacing, not so sure. he should at least let you try them on. if not, he is a moron, and can go eat jello.
friggin mitsu owners think they are 1337, like honda guys. whatever. let 'em live in ignorance.
Old Feb 6, 2009 | 09:34 PM
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called the same place with the cranky guy but a different store, got a nice person and she said no problem just bring it all in and they'll try them on

dont have a jack so i cant do it myself, else i would. the new wheels have tires on them already and are ready to go. hopefully they fit without problems
Old Feb 6, 2009 | 11:26 PM
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dude what year eclipse is it? and is it stock eclipse rims or ater market? and Width of the wheels can be anywhere from 6" to 8.5". WIDTH ALONE MEANS NOTHING. It must be combined with offset to determine if and how a wheel will fit on the car. For example, a 17x7.5" +42 offset will sit on the car in almost the same way as a 17x6.5" +46 offset wheel so u have to find out and post wat yea eclipse is and what rims u r buying...

edit: 3rd gens doesnt like anything over 35offset...

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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 11:42 PM
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dude what year eclipse is it? and is it stock eclipse rims or ater market? and Width of the wheels can be anywhere from 6" to 8.5". WIDTH ALONE MEANS NOTHING. It must be combined with offset to determine if and how a wheel will fit on the car. For example, a 17x7.5" +42 offset will sit on the car in almost the same way as a 17x6.5" +46 offset wheel so u have to find out and post wat yea eclipse is and what rims u r buying...

edit: 3rd gens doesnt like anything over 35offset...
hah, as you said yourself width means nothing without offset... conversely offset means nothing without width. a 6" wheel can run a 20mm offset without hitting anything.

but OP.. seriously. you DON'T have a jack... at all? what happens if you get a flat on the road? do you have no friends? no family? no neighbors? hell you can get a jack from autonze for $20 and save the other $60 that place would charge for the other 3 wheels..... you NEED to have a jack in your car dude.
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18x8 30mm offset. 225-45-18 tires. The perfect fit

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Originally Posted by Cliff Clavin
Why don't you just jack up your car and test fit one? If the new ones already have tires, you can swap them yourself for free.

I am not sure what the offset is on the wheels you got. The hub bore might not work, either.

I have a friend with a 92 Talon and he has some 17x7 Enkeis with a 42mm offset, which is a little bit tucked on a Maxima, but will fit. I had the exact same size rims and they were fine on the front and I used 5mm spacers for the back.
I have some RS Limited 17'' rims from the same year Talon, but the lugs are too small for my 91 Max? The Max lugs are 21mm and The Talon is i believe 17 or 18. Is there any way these could fit?
Old Feb 7, 2009 | 11:34 AM
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yeah, i need a jack. im rarely on the highway and ive got a AMA gold membership if worse comes to worse but a jack is the next thing on the list

rims are 2000-2005 eclipse and im guessing they were stock mitsubishi rims, they have the mitsubishi symbol in the middle and almost all mitsubishis ive seen here have the exact same rims. think theyre 6" wide, when i googled it i found some replica rims and it said 6" wide

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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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First off, anyone that treats you like the first guy did on the phone...never give them business. I personally refuse to support jackasses wages.

Next..if the tires were balanced before you got them, having a jack you can put them on for free, and rotate you own tires, in the future..for free. Get a jack bud.

Last...we want pics!
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Mitsubishi wheels are actually a little too large in the center bore compared to nissan. (67.1 mm mitsu vs 66.1 Nissan). In other words they will bolt on, but hub centric wheels will be an issue.
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Originally Posted by -ReLLiK-
I have some RS Limited 17'' rims from the same year Talon, but the lugs are too small for my 91 Max? The Max lugs are 21mm and The Talon is i believe 17 or 18. Is there any way these could fit?
umm...all Eclipses and Talons are the same bolt pattern as our Maximas -- 5x114.3.



What measurement are you talking about? Do you mean the offset isn't right? Or, the length of the bolts are different?

I guess you would have to test fit them. I doubt that the length of the bolts would matter, but if the actual wheels go too far in (like if they are 17x8 and +48) I could see where the wheels would hit the struts on a Maxima.

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Mitsubishi wheels are actually a little too large in the center bore compared to nissan. (67.1 mm mitsu vs 66.1 Nissan). In other words they will bolt on, but hub centric wheels will be an issue.
I'm sure Brian knows this, but most aftermarket wheels have a fairly large center bore to accomodate different cars. I used hub centric rings on two different sets of aftermarket wheels. They were pretty cheap at the tire store.

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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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i swear to god im going to go crazy, called to make a appointment to get them on tuesday and now its first come first serve. figure if i go around 4pm it should be quiet

anyways, i can only hope they fit.
Old Feb 7, 2009 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by maximaman1313
First off, anyone that treats you like the first guy did on the phone...never give them business. I personally refuse to support jackasses wages.

Next..if the tires were balanced before you got them, having a jack you can put them on for free, and rotate you own tires, in the future..for free. Get a jack bud.

Last...we want pics!
after theyre thrown on i can get some pics. my stock rims are a disgrace, theyre scratched up and 1 rim is missing the center cap. either someone stole it or i lost it drifting on ice
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Originally Posted by Cliff Clavin
umm...all Eclipses and Talons are the same bolt pattern as our Maximas -- 5x114.3.



What measurement are you talking about? Do you mean the offset isn't right? Or, the length of the bolts are different?

I guess you would have to test fit them. I doubt that the length of the bolts would matter, but if the actual wheels go too far in (like if they are 17x8 and +48) I could see where the wheels would hit the struts on a Maxima.



I'm sure Brian knows this, but most aftermarket wheels have a fairly large center bore to accomodate different cars. I used hub centric rings on two different sets of aftermarket wheels. They were pretty cheap at the tire store.
he meant the size of the lugs. ours are 21mm, but the ones on the eclipse are 17 or 19mm lugs.

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i swear to god im going to go crazy, called to make a appointment to get them on tuesday and now its first come first serve. figure if i go around 4pm it should be quiet

anyways, i can only hope they fit.
seriously GO GET A JACK and do it yourself. You can get 4 jacks for the price of having 4 freaking wheels put on your car. Or borrow someone else's.. there's no reason to pay $80 to have wheels that already have tires just plopped on your car. If you are THAT desperate to spend money, get a jack for $20, install your wheels 'for free' yourself, and send the other $60 that you were gonna spend at that shop to me. I guarantee i'll put it to better use than paying a shop to install wheels.

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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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seriously GO GET A JACK and do it yourself. You can get 4 jacks for the price of having 4 freaking wheels put on your car. Or borrow someone else's.. there's no reason to pay $80 to have wheels that already have tires just plopped on your car. If you are THAT desperate to spend money, get a jack for $20, install your wheels 'for free' yourself, and send the other $60 that you were gonna spend at that shop to me. I guarantee i'll put it to better use than paying a shop to install wheels.
I picked up a like-brand-new maxima jack and lug wrench for $10 at the junk yard.

reminds me... gotta swing by there in a couple of days....
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Originally Posted by Cliff Clavin
umm...all Eclipses and Talons are the same bolt pattern as our Maximas -- 5x114.3.



What measurement are you talking about? Do you mean the offset isn't right? Or, the length of the bolts are different?

I guess you would have to test fit them. I doubt that the length of the bolts would matter, but if the actual wheels go too far in (like if they are 17x8 and +48) I could see where the wheels would hit the struts on a Maxima.
no no no. Im talking about the size of the lug nuts are different. The Maxs lugs are too big for the rims. And the lugs that came with the rims are too small for the studs... ya know?
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no no no. Im talking about the size of the lug nuts are different. The Maxs lugs are too big for the rims. And the lugs that came with the rims are too small for the studs... ya know?
go to a wheel/custom shop and find lugs that have the right thread and are small enough to fit in the wheels. They are commonly called tuner lugs
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
18x8 30mm offset. 225-45-18 tires. The perfect fit
you had a set of 350z front 8" rims all around i assume?
Old Feb 8, 2009 | 04:19 PM
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is300 rims within 2 weeks baby
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is300 rims within 2 weeks baby
you will need to have the center bore enlarged for them to fit
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
18x8 30mm offset. 225-45-18 tires. The perfect fit

Those are awesome wheels. I wish I could find me a set. That way my spoke clearance for the future BBK would be no problem. BTW, would 235/40/18 on those be too wide and rub on something?
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Yes, I ran 4 fronts. And from what I remember, 235 size would be okay
Old Feb 9, 2009 | 09:30 PM
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tomorrows the day. weathers nasty here so im not going to switch them myself. cant do it in the garage, its filled with vehicles and i dont have the keys for any of them. i was going to ask my neighbors to use theirs but theyve got a wrecked altima theyre repairing in it. im going with someone who can get me a huge discount on getting the wheels balanced+thrown on tomorrow

and cadaver, while im waiting im going to buy a jack. lol
Old Feb 10, 2009 | 04:36 PM
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idiots. just threw the eclipses next to it and said nope, 17's wont fit. they didnt even try, and they couldnt try. i need some kind of coned bolts or something ordered from nissan. what ticked me off is when i looked at the bolts, when you stick the wheels next to the car on a flat surface, the bolt holes on the are are lower than the ones on the new wheels, so when the new ones would be on there would be like 2" of gap compared to when you stick them together on a flat surface.

screw it, i bought a jack, and the eclipse ones have summer tires. april or may when the snows gone im throwing them on myself
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idiots. just threw the eclipses next to it and said nope, 17's wont fit. they didnt even try, and they couldnt try. i need some kind of coned bolts or something ordered from nissan. what ticked me off is when i looked at the bolts, when you stick the wheels next to the car on a flat surface, the bolt holes on the are are lower than the ones on the new wheels, so when the new ones would be on there would be like 2" of gap compared to when you stick them together on a flat surface.

screw it, i bought a jack, and the eclipse ones have summer tires. april or may when the snows gone im throwing them on myself
i wouldn't be so fast to call them "idiots".... they might have seen something that wasn't apparent to you. what speficically did they say you needed? something about the acorn taper not matching or something?
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they said what i need is some cone bolts or something like that for the rims to fit, that makes sense. but they said the eclipse rims will probably rub. the eclipse rims with tires measure to be the exact same dimensions as my stock rims with tires. i cant see how they can rub
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Originally Posted by chrome91
they said what i need is some cone bolts or something like that for the rims to fit, that makes sense. but they said the eclipse rims will probably rub. the eclipse rims with tires measure to be the exact same dimensions as my stock rims with tires. i cant see how they can rub
width difference plus offset difference can equal rub.
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true, but what they did is just stick the eclipse's beside the car and say it'll rub on the upper wheel well, but if the diameter of the eclipse's are the same as the stock rims, they cant be too tall
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but they can be too wide, and there isn't a lot of room between the tire and the strut with stock tires, add in wider tires with what to them may have appeared to be way wrong offset and they felt that trying to put them on and failing you would want to not pay, so they saved themselves some time and just said no.
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wait... so does that mean that the rims that i got, that came off of a Talon wouldnt fit???

Rims been sittin in garage so kinda dirty:
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not sure if talons would fit.

ive been told that the eclipses will indeed fit, so im ordering the cone bolt thingies i need and switching the tires in may or june.
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See all them holes there mang? These are a universal fit wheel.. As long as one of the patterns are 114X5/ under 45 offset and the center bore is at least 66.1mm they will fit.

Originally Posted by -ReLLiK-
wait... so does that mean that the rims that i got, that came off of a Talon wouldnt fit???

Rims been sittin in garage so kinda dirty:
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See all them holes there mang? These are a universal fit wheel.. As long as one of the patterns are 114X5/ under 45 offset and the center bore is at least 66.1mm they will fit.
oh iight fa sho thx mayne. So that means I just need to get some tuner lugs?
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I thought Mits Talons were 5x100mm, but those million holed universal wheels got a hole for everybody. Hope your lugs are super duty style cause the hub centric is what support the wheel not the lugs!
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Originally Posted by CMax03
I thought Mits Talons were 5x100mm, but those million holed universal wheels got a hole for everybody. Hope your lugs are super duty style cause the hub centric is what support the wheel not the lugs!
talon is 5x4.5
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