Who's Interested in a 3rd Gen Cattman 2.5" Catback?
Thanks........So remember that when it slips on flawlessly and you're looking at it saying woww that was easy! The Guinae pig feedback was your BFF....and that last F doesn't stand for forever.....
hmmm i wonder who else was in?
anyways props again for making this happen, i thought i was too late to ever see a 3rd gen group deal but its been done now. i want to see a CF trunk and hood group deal happen but if we cant get many people for a ~$200 exhaust i cant see many shelling out for a $1000+ hood/trunk
anyways props again for making this happen, i thought i was too late to ever see a 3rd gen group deal but its been done now. i want to see a CF trunk and hood group deal happen but if we cant get many people for a ~$200 exhaust i cant see many shelling out for a $1000+ hood/trunk
Originally Posted by CMax03
The MES catback interest List:
1. CMax03 (2.5")
2. Chrome91 (2.5")
3. James92SE (2.5")
4. Deadfall (3.0")
5. Maximajquery (2.5")
6. Chris Gregg (3.0")
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11. Everyone needs to Contact Josh with your real names and register: info@mandrelexhaustsystem.com
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Interested. Simply need to verify something before I determine which size I'll be going with.....leaning toward 2.5" plumbing.
The MES catback interest List:
1. CMax03 (2.5")
2. Chrome91 (2.5")
3. James92SE (2.5")
4. Deadfall (3.0")
5. Maximajquery (2.5")
6. Chris Gregg (3.0")
7.
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10. ^please correct me if I'm wrong^
11. Everyone needs to Contact Josh with your real names and register: info@mandrelexhaustsystem.com
12.
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15.
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Interested. Simply need to verify something before I determine which size I'll be going with.....leaning toward 2.5" plumbing.
hmmm i wonder who else was in?
anyways props again for making this happen, i thought i was too late to ever see a 3rd gen group deal but its been done now. i want to see a CF trunk and hood group deal happen but if we cant get many people for a ~$200 exhaust i cant see many shelling out for a $1000+ hood/trunk
anyways props again for making this happen, i thought i was too late to ever see a 3rd gen group deal but its been done now. i want to see a CF trunk and hood group deal happen but if we cant get many people for a ~$200 exhaust i cant see many shelling out for a $1000+ hood/trunk
I remember years back people were putting stock G35 sedan (or something like that) mufflers onto 2.5" piping. I may have to look into that. IIRC it had some spring/valve that flowed nearly straight through at WOT and at idle/non WOT it was basically just like a stock/quiet muffler. Since this is going on my black VE I want a non-ricey/fart can muffler but the advantages of the higher flow.
Yeah you're right with that muffler and the 5/5.5th Gen Maxima dualtip variable flow muffler as well....both quiet and can flow good #'s at WOT, but both are reverse flow mufflers so you lose a little bit of power (at top end) but it's probably an insignificant 1-3 whp!!!!!! I'm going with a 22" magnaflow 4" round resonator and the 5"x11"x22" single in/out muffler which should be more than enough to quiet my little beast and for extra measures a resonated SS Oval tip......By the way Magnaflow just released their Glasspack line of mufflers/resonators.....I'll use one of those on the Dodge Shelby Charger one day in the future!!!!!
Last edited by CMax03; Dec 4, 2010 at 05:13 PM.
I guess ideally I'd want one with a bigger inlet. Would going from 2.5" to a 2" inlet negate the hp increase of the 2.5" piping? Or no?
I don't think so much on the hp decrease. I pretty sure the g35 is a 2" inlet.
Anyone have a picture of a G35 muffler and how it's inlet pipe is arranged...The AE muffler makes an extra 5 hp over the 5th Gen...and I'm sure the Bosal Oem replacement will to since it has no variable valve in it! Maximo018 has a 5.5th gen muffler he modded with 3" tips and man that muffler is beautiful......
Last edited by CMax03; Dec 4, 2010 at 10:21 PM.
It looks good guys....We own thanks to Josh for working with us....I'll prep my tubing (debur and clean the interior) and cut the out system off so I can check the fitting or do the plumb bob test fit with the car jacked up.....It looks great and appears there's enough extra tubing on the fwd section to run "No Resonator" and rear muffler only....I'll be deciding between an 18"/22" resonator....I will also modifiy the flange to slip over the tubing for a better/stronger fit....
Last edited by CMax03; Dec 7, 2010 at 01:07 AM.
Actually @ about 2am, opening Christmas presents extra early...then I had to do all that uploading/downloading cause I said that I was gonna provide yall pictures once it came in.....I worked late that night and had other things to do before I started taking pics........The rear section is slip fitted on the fwd side....otherwords the fwd(resonator) section slips into the rear section! I'll be expanding my rear muffler to slide the rear section into it....all the expanded sections will be cut with 2 slits and secured with band clamps. I'll be expanding the fwd end of the resonator (since I'm using one) to slide the flanged/fwd section into it. The resonator will be welding in place and the entire catback will be three sections (fwd/resonator, Bpipe/midpipe, and the rear muffler).....Just like Cattman's!
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!!!!! Taught him too respect his elders 1 on 1...LOL!!!!!!
Update on Guinae Pig test fit.....
Damn Josh pretty much nailed it...I'll being updating him with the bend adjustments so yall will be right on the money....I'll be posting pictures in an hour or two.....stay posted guys!
Damn Josh pretty much nailed it...I'll being updating him with the bend adjustments so yall will be right on the money....I'll be posting pictures in an hour or two.....stay posted guys!
Here are the fitment pics.....
1. Adjustments made to Fwd section tubing and flange!
2. Rear section interfering w/ Upper links with suspension fully extended.
3. That's it!!!!!
1. Adjustments made to Fwd section tubing and flange!
2. Rear section interfering w/ Upper links with suspension fully extended.
3. That's it!!!!!
Last edited by CMax03; Dec 11, 2010 at 05:27 PM.
Here's some more.....
This is a pic of how close the initial fabricated exhaust system compared to the OEM! The rear section will need to be extended 1.5" just ahead of the vertical offset because the exhaust is touching the upper links, when the suspension is fully extended
This picture is showing the offset and the rework fwd section: The tubing should be 2.25" from the tip to the first offset bend and overall 29" from tip to tip. The fwd flange was opened up via a die grinder to accept the 2.5" tubing to slide through...
That's pretty much it Guys!!!!!
I'll be notching the fwd end (expanded end) of the rear section so I can utilize band clamps instead of a U-clamp...The 22" resonator that I intended on using was a pipe dream when using a offset in the fwd catback section...I will be trying an 18" resonator instead....The 5"x 11""x 22'' rear muffler is a go'er however!
This is a pic of how close the initial fabricated exhaust system compared to the OEM! The rear section will need to be extended 1.5" just ahead of the vertical offset because the exhaust is touching the upper links, when the suspension is fully extended
This picture is showing the offset and the rework fwd section: The tubing should be 2.25" from the tip to the first offset bend and overall 29" from tip to tip. The fwd flange was opened up via a die grinder to accept the 2.5" tubing to slide through...
That's pretty much it Guys!!!!!
I'll be notching the fwd end (expanded end) of the rear section so I can utilize band clamps instead of a U-clamp...The 22" resonator that I intended on using was a pipe dream when using a offset in the fwd catback section...I will be trying an 18" resonator instead....The 5"x 11""x 22'' rear muffler is a go'er however!
Last edited by CMax03; Dec 12, 2010 at 07:45 AM.
I use the cardboard cause my creeper when glide down the driveway with me on it and it's too hard trying to keep my balance while working, cause it tries to go no matter what position I'm in.....LOL!
How do yall like the fitment so far....Joshshould have it fitting like a glove once he does my 2 revisions...I thought He did a really good job off the bending directions database they use! I won't be able to use a 22" resonator so I'm going to do one more test to see if there's enough room for 4" round Magnaflow case, I'm not sure it will fit....??????
Last edited by CMax03; Dec 12, 2010 at 12:33 PM.
UPDATE GUYS:
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Thats great news!
The pics you took were good. The adjustments you mentioned will be easy.
1. We kind of figured the front pipe would be too long. We actually build almost all our tubing with longer front pipes, for people to make adjustments if needed. However, based off the picture where you welded the flange, we can make a cut before shipping if needed.
2. Now you see what I described about space and using the 22 inch inch resonator... it just wont fit. But the 18 inch should be fine. NOTE: We can also build a replacement cat section also... This can be built to OEM specs which means it would install with any exhaust system... OR we can build it 4 inches shorter, which will allow use of a 22 inch resonator on the front pipe. This would be easier to install than modifying the flexpipe section. Price would be $95.00 for a new High Flow cat section, using a Magnaflow cat. NO! We cannot build this without a cat though.
3. I had a feeling we might need to add extra length for the last section leading up to the muffler. This is an easy fix though.
My only other question would be... How did the muffler install? What muffler style did you use, etc? We are aware of the fact the OEM muffler has a higher inlet and lower outlet... As such, when we built the kit, we tried to lower the muffler inlet so that a standard muffler can be used... how did this work out? If you get a chance, please follow up with pics of the muffler section, etc.
Thanks,
I'm glad you enjoy the new exhaust. We will start sending out the other orders within this week. Also, keep an eye on our website for an update and easier ordering.
After this next round of 2.5 inch system shipping out... we will start production of the 3 inch systems.
Within time, we still plan to make the system as a bolt on catback... and also so start looking into other gen models.
The pics you took were good. The adjustments you mentioned will be easy.
1. We kind of figured the front pipe would be too long. We actually build almost all our tubing with longer front pipes, for people to make adjustments if needed. However, based off the picture where you welded the flange, we can make a cut before shipping if needed.
2. Now you see what I described about space and using the 22 inch inch resonator... it just wont fit. But the 18 inch should be fine. NOTE: We can also build a replacement cat section also... This can be built to OEM specs which means it would install with any exhaust system... OR we can build it 4 inches shorter, which will allow use of a 22 inch resonator on the front pipe. This would be easier to install than modifying the flexpipe section. Price would be $95.00 for a new High Flow cat section, using a Magnaflow cat. NO! We cannot build this without a cat though.
3. I had a feeling we might need to add extra length for the last section leading up to the muffler. This is an easy fix though.
My only other question would be... How did the muffler install? What muffler style did you use, etc? We are aware of the fact the OEM muffler has a higher inlet and lower outlet... As such, when we built the kit, we tried to lower the muffler inlet so that a standard muffler can be used... how did this work out? If you get a chance, please follow up with pics of the muffler section, etc.
Thanks,
I'm glad you enjoy the new exhaust. We will start sending out the other orders within this week. Also, keep an eye on our website for an update and easier ordering.
After this next round of 2.5 inch system shipping out... we will start production of the 3 inch systems.
Within time, we still plan to make the system as a bolt on catback... and also so start looking into other gen models.
(sorry for the long email)
I just ordered my resonator and muffler tonite and once it's here....I'll install it myself and take the car over too my favorite exhaust shop for final adjustments and to weld up the hangers for my Magnaflow rear muffler....other than that it's looking good so far....thx for your help, this couldn't have been done without your participation...