Automax? Can you post there link or number as I don't live in washington anymore back in oklahoma city.

 

Jeff you got pics of BBK hardware?

 

Automax is a guy on here. Huge thread in the Group Deal section..

 

http://forums.maxima.org/group-deals...ines-pads.html

GRNMAXDMON Nothing special about the bracket. Just a dog bone looking thing.

 

do you also have the hubcentric ring? i can't use the 6th gen rotors with your brackets can I?

 

IIRC you don't need the hubcentric ring if you get the re-drilled rotors from Automax

 

My brackets move the caliper out to accomodate a 13" Ford Cobra rotor. It's obviously not going to accomodate any other rotor that's not 13" and doesn't have the same hat offset as the Ford unit. ie.. a 6th gen maxima rotor that's 12.6". Everyone asks this to try to circumvent having to use Matt's brackets. His brackets cost what they did for a reason.

If you want to use the 6th gen rotors, just use the rotors/calipers as a package. Bolts on.

 

got it Jeff. just wanted a better understanding. i will let you know when i need those brackets.

 

Yeah I have the GXE with the Sonars, HUD,digi dash version...you figure for the extra money it was for this model they could have thrown in the rear disc.

 

Not for nothing but I like this set up right here...6thgen calipers/rotors, Nice!!

 

No. That pic is of 13" cobra rotors, my brackets and 30mm alumin 300zx calipers

 

Nope there is a good reason they were gxe's for a reason. They are not sports models like the se. They are the basic smucks base line model never would of needed rear disc brakes.

 

Yeah a base model GXE I can understand but I would think a limited model GXE that I have with the up graded suspension and dash/hud would of had the all wheel disc.

 

http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generation-maxima-2000-2003/592941-really-definitive-6th-gen-bbk-great-pics.html?

This is all I'm doing...now I need to get some paint on these calipers .

 

Umm, so exactly what is the difference between a 91 SE with rear discs and a 91 GXE with rear drums? power output? handling? weight? performance capability?

Please school us uninformed people of your great wisdom.

 

That's what I'm saying...only the 92.5-94 w/the VE had a little more power to need better braking

 

UWhy should I even say anything to you? Tell me mr retired maxima owner who always flames people for ideas they have. Better yet not worth me wasting my time. Not worth me speaking my mind and getting banned. Same matt as always.

 

Um there isn't really and performance differences inbetween the GXE and SE VG versions. Swap the rear discs and you're there.

 

Because you're talking out your ***. The SE and gXE have absolutely ZERO difference in performance potential. It's just like the difference between a base and a track 350Z- they both have the exact same engine, transmission, and overall weight. change the springs, shocks, and brakes, and you can convert one car to the other, with the exception of some trinkets in the interior. Zero performance difference.
Now, NA Z32 vs. TTZ is a different story. 100hp difference from the factory is worth a difference in brakes, yet they didn't.

If you're going to try to insult me, at least come up with something better than that. And don't worry, I won't ban you if you speak your mind about things that don't insult myself or other people. Just don't be stupid, that's all.

 

the company fast brakes makes an affordable kit for the 3rd gen for like $900 thats the kit i got for my car uses 04 max rotor and wilwood 4piston caliper. kit comes complete with lines an all.

 

Na z32 is factory power of 225 crank hp tt z32 is factory power of 280 crank hp. As reported by nissan to the dot. 55hp difference not 100hp. Anyways why you still here matt you retired the 3rd gen and roll a 240sx track car and g35. Your usually just insulting true enthusiast trying to continue living there love they got for the 3rd gen as where others ditch for newer cars.

 

Good job. you tried to shoot down my point with invalid data. Where'd you get those numbers? The Z32 has published specs of 222hp and 300hp posted everywhere. 80hp, 100hp, what's the diff? it's a bazillion horsepowers more than your car will ever make because you're just a lowly 3rd gen Maxima enthusiast and I've moved on to a real chassis.

Why am I still here? It's to argue with poofs like you on the internet because I get off thinking about how I can abuse my mod powers and belittle people who still drive 20 year old cars while I've moved on to a 10 yr old car and think my sheit don't stink. The only people I insult are the morons who deserve to be insulted for saying stupid ish.

 

Lmfao congratulations your a moron yourself then your just some nerd who went to college for chemistry and think your god all mighty. Say what you want man I'm not just a tuner that won't ever get anywhere in my car build.atleast I have more dedication to the 3rd gens then you since you ditched them and even clarified there 20 old cars with no potential. Atleast I put such dedication into a good car not those pos 240's your just like nismokc car club all nothing but 240sx's ealing down on cars not rwd.

 

Keep going. you've already called me a moron. do it again and you'll get a permaban.

I have a 240 because I RACE a 240. You can't RACE a Maxima. You have absolutely NO idea what my education is or what I've done before you came on this board. when I started modding Maximas, there were no mods for it. I developed my own coilovers. I worked with Warpspeed to develop their Y pipes, exhaust, and subframe connectors. I worked with Stillen for their brake kits. I designed and built my own suspension braces because nobody else would. Then I ran a business for five years selling just that. Then Katrina came along and the market dried up and I'm still sitting here with $20,000 in parts in my garage that nobody wants to buy.

Now.. potential? My Maxima has more stuff done to it than you'd ever dream possible. It ran a best time of 2:07 at Texas World Speedway, and would wear out a $1000 set of tires in a day. My 240 with simple bolt-ons for power and suspension mods is running a 2:02 at the same track and the same tires last 5 track days.

Now tell me why I would want to keep running a heavy FWD car at the track when I can run a much lighter and cheaper car and go faster?

For what it is and was, the Maxima was a fine car. But it's not a race car. Never has been, never will be. For a cruiser, they're great. But with 270,000 miles on mine, it was time for something more reliable.

And FYI, it was chemical engineering and electrical engineering. if you're going to call me a nerd, at least get it right.

 

A pretty good resume, old boy . Don't ban him...that's a sucky thing indeed.

 

I have to agree with Matt that these cars are by no means race cars but there were ahead of there time way back when. If you don't already know then I'll throw you some gems,"FWD's aren't made for Racing". I'm personally not a member here to try and turn my 3rdgen into a race car, I'm just really feeling my 3rdgen. All that was posted was my comment about my model GXE not having all wheel disc. I posted this statement cause I would have liked to not have to fab up some rear disc to hook up a bigger brake kit for looks. I'm looking at rims and can't find anything good that doesn't show the rear drums. The brakes on my Max are in excellent shape and work great for what they are. That sucks that my post started a battle over the GXE model and SE model Maxima. I like both models and they both have potential performance/exterior wise...I'm looking to finish the exterior/suspension and a little bit more power and that's all. I have my Volvo 850, Sentra and I'm shopping for something else...maybe an Audi S4 or a Fairlady 350z. Regardless I'm keeping my 3rdgen for the long haul, simply cause I love this car.

 

I don't think it's based on the Maxima being a FWD! I think the real problem is that it's a sedan and not a coupe, and all that weight associated with it being a sedan......I can be competitive with many FWD platforms that are light as hell...can you spell Honda, Acura, Dodge Shelby GLHS .....?????

 

The G35 sedan is actually as light or lighter than the coupe version

 

aren't all sedans that have coupe versions are lighter than the coupes either way since the coupes have more reinforcement?

 

I finally commented on your write up thread. It works with Q45 calipers, easy to do.

 

have no idea. It's only like 100lbs though.

 

Not necessarily. That's the case with the G, but not with many others. honestly I don't know why the G is lighter- the Sedan has like 9" longer wheelbase than the coupe version, yet it's lighter. strange.

As for the GXE w/drums issue, you can bolt on a set of discs from the SE. I "discovered" that swap ten years ago with Kaleb. first one was done on my car, second was done on his. The Z31 rotor + '93 Maxima caliper + 90 mounting bracket was part of our little discovery since I was junkyard diving for all my parts and grabbed calipers off one car and struts w/ caliper brackets off another. got them home and found out the suckers didn't fit. fortunately the ears were just too long so I drilled new holes in the bracket.

Then I was searching for bigger brakes in the rear and found the Z31 had the same rotor thickness and offset as the 3 gens, but were larger diameter.
I picked up a set of them and stuck them on the car only to find out the Z rotor and Max caliper bolted right up to the original holes in the mounting bracket. kickass! I was ready to make a mounting bracket, but no need now!

Anyway, the swap is pretty easy. just go to a junkyard and grab all the parts off an SE w/ discs and start swapping. you can move your springs and strut inserts over if you have good stuff on your GXE already.

If you don't want to go through all that, just clean up your drums and paint them flat black. They'll blend in behind the wheel and hide better than anything else. just PLEASE don't paint them yellow or pink or green. eek.
(I tried silver too and that didn't look too hot either.)

CMax, when you mean competitive, exactly what are you referring to? straightline acceleration or handling? the Maxima doesn't hold a candle to even a civic when driven well. at my first Auto X, I got my *** handed to me by a bone stock 87 civic on original struts. some of the fastest street-tire auto X cars are still old '91 civic hatches..
Straightline speed? sky's the limit on any car there, but you can't outrun physics. you have to have 35% more power in a Maxima simply because the car weighs 35% more than a Honda/Acura/whatever.

 

Matt, all this mumbo jumbo about coupes and sedans being heavy, light, short and or long also has me stumped??? And i have always agreed with FWD cars being heavy as hell and no point in making them race cars cuz its useless but i still love this boat anchor no matter what. I would get rid of my 335i than my 3rd gen but i also love RWD cars more.

 

Don't worry about it. just drifting from the subject at hand- as 99% of the threads on this forum do.

 

It's not that the maxima is that heavy. Just has a heavy lump of a V6 over the front. ie.. FWD civics, mini coopers handle well.

I bet Aaron's VQ 3-gen is alot more nimble

 

you still gotta swap the struts out though right? or you mean the caliper mounting thingy mounts to the same holes as the drum backing plate? if so i just had nc90gxe swap his strut housings out for nothing

aaron's car

i was there when he ran a 12.24 all-motor... and yeah having 150lb off the nose helps alot.

 

Well Well well Look who stepped out from the shadows.

 

Yes, you have to swap the strut housings as well. the axle stub isn't as long on the drum models, so the back of the wheel bearing hits the dust shield and the offset is wrong for the rotor to line up to the caliper. all that is written up in my faq on the swap (which is linked in the stickies somewhere... but nobody ever looks there cause it's too damn hard to navigate.)
http://blehmco.com/faq/rear_disc_conversion.html

Drum strut on left, Disc strut on right:

 

ok cool. everything i'd ever heard/read pointed me in the direction of the struts being different but your post just made me do a double take.

 

yeah, I was generalizing. it's not that big of a deal but it must be done. adds 30 min to the job.