Anyone w/ experience in B&G suspension?
#1
Anyone w/ experience in B&G suspension?
http://www.slickcar.com/details/1016...pring-kits.asp
As some of you know Eibach no longer makes lowering springs for our cars..and I would like to lower my center of gravity but not get some off-brand springs..I'm gonna try to find some distributors who may still have some eibachs but I wanna make a purchase soon.
Any input on these?
As some of you know Eibach no longer makes lowering springs for our cars..and I would like to lower my center of gravity but not get some off-brand springs..I'm gonna try to find some distributors who may still have some eibachs but I wanna make a purchase soon.
Any input on these?
#2
Found a distributor with the Eibach's...will be purchasing this week.
http://www.performancedepot.com/pdpr...php?sku=538356
http://www.performancedepot.com/pdpr...php?sku=538356
#4
I wonder..Eibach lowering springs with Tokico HP Series struts. Sound like a good combo?
I see the koni's are like 700 for all 4 corners...whereas the tokico's are like 350 for all 4 corners.
I see the koni's are like 700 for all 4 corners...whereas the tokico's are like 350 for all 4 corners.
#5
How do you plan on buying either Koni's OR Tokico's? They're both long out of production and I would highly highly doubt anybody has any in stock anywhere.
I've been on Tokico blues and Intrax for 11 years now. Would always have loved to go Koni but I missed my chance and now they no longer exist. I would settle for another set of Tok's but those are long gone too.
Historically, Eibach's on Tokico's were always considered the best "budget" combo. Of course, Koni's on Eibach's were always the cream of the crop.
So where did you find Koni's and or Tokico's? Do let me know because I will buy some with the quickness. Don't want to burst a bubble but I predict any place that claims to have them will e-mail after ordering and say they're not available.
And, for the record, B&G's on the 3rd gen were lower on the back and fugly IMO.
Last edited by James92SE; 07-09-2011 at 10:46 PM.
#6
Tokico and Koni are long gone, last year when i was looking for a set i called alot of places in Canada and the US, my buddy who has connections called, and the guy at Shox.com called his connections, all discontinued
i had Ksport GT 2.0"/2.2" on KYB GR2, on the front the tires were tucked into the fender and the rears were flush to the fender/slightly tucked. so no awkward extra low rear/high front.
i dont think you can even get Ksport GT anymore, Eibachs have been really hard to find too within the last year
i had Ksport GT 2.0"/2.2" on KYB GR2, on the front the tires were tucked into the fender and the rears were flush to the fender/slightly tucked. so no awkward extra low rear/high front.
i dont think you can even get Ksport GT anymore, Eibachs have been really hard to find too within the last year
#7
Wait, what?
How do you plan on buying either Koni's OR Tokico's? They're both long out of production and I would highly highly doubt anybody has any in stock anywhere.
I've been on Tokico blues and Intrax for 11 years now. Would always have loved to go Koni but I missed my chance and now they no longer exist. I would settle for another set of Tok's but those are long gone too.
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How do you plan on buying either Koni's OR Tokico's? They're both long out of production and I would highly highly doubt anybody has any in stock anywhere.
I've been on Tokico blues and Intrax for 11 years now. Would always have loved to go Koni but I missed my chance and now they no longer exist. I would settle for another set of Tok's but those are long gone too.
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Amblackmax- im afraid to say that these guys are right as far as purchasing those shocks and spring combos because i've learned the hardway this year 3 times... They're just going to charge your account..then refund your money weeks maybe months later..THO from time to time people get tired of there sports suspensions and sell em on the classifieds here.
With my luck as soooooooon as I purchased my intrax springs about 2 people a few days later posted up eibachs for sale lol this was like 2 months ago I believe..anyway look around on the classifieds you might be able to get yourself a set of clean used ones or even fresh in the box! hope this was helpful I jus recently was in your position.
Last edited by BklynsmoeVE; 07-10-2011 at 02:33 AM.
#8
You must have a bad memory then. That was one the first things you ever asked me when you PM'd me. You were debating between a couple different lowering springs and asking me what I was on and my thoughts etc. I told you I'd been on Intrax forever and it was my favorite looks wise drop and that the streets here weren't bad but not sure how they'd fare in NYC yada yada yada yada. You're slippin' man
#10
You must have a bad memory then. That was one the first things you ever asked me when you PM'd me. You were debating between a couple different lowering springs and asking me what I was on and my thoughts etc. I told you I'd been on Intrax forever and it was my favorite looks wise drop and that the streets here weren't bad but not sure how they'd fare in NYC yada yada yada yada. You're slippin' man
#12
Wait, what?
How do you plan on buying either Koni's OR Tokico's? They're both long out of production and I would highly highly doubt anybody has any in stock anywhere.
I've been on Tokico blues and Intrax for 11 years now. Would always have loved to go Koni but I missed my chance and now they no longer exist. I would settle for another set of Tok's but those are long gone too.
Historically, Eibach's on Tokico's were always considered the best "budget" combo. Of course, Koni's on Eibach's were always the cream of the crop.
So where did you find Koni's and or Tokico's? Do let me know because I will buy some with the quickness. Don't want to burst a bubble but I predict any place that claims to have them will e-mail after ordering and say they're not available.
And, for the record, B&G's on the 3rd gen were lower on the back and fugly IMO.
How do you plan on buying either Koni's OR Tokico's? They're both long out of production and I would highly highly doubt anybody has any in stock anywhere.
I've been on Tokico blues and Intrax for 11 years now. Would always have loved to go Koni but I missed my chance and now they no longer exist. I would settle for another set of Tok's but those are long gone too.
Historically, Eibach's on Tokico's were always considered the best "budget" combo. Of course, Koni's on Eibach's were always the cream of the crop.
So where did you find Koni's and or Tokico's? Do let me know because I will buy some with the quickness. Don't want to burst a bubble but I predict any place that claims to have them will e-mail after ordering and say they're not available.
And, for the record, B&G's on the 3rd gen were lower on the back and fugly IMO.
I'll keep you guys updated on what I find out.
#13
Well the sites above say they have them. Maybe there were distributors who collected an allotted amount and still have some lingering. In comparison to the amount of people who modify their 3rd gens and who don't, I'm sure there was a plethora of them at different sites at one point. Whether the inventory still holds them or not will be determined tomorrow. I will give both sites a call to verify those items numbers are still holding a count to them. Once I verify that I will post on here for sure. If they do have say, a quantity of say 4 or 5, you guys who still want them better jump on these quick. If they're out of stock (as predicted by most) then maybe I'll have to just abandon hope lol.
I'll keep you guys updated on what I find out.
I'll keep you guys updated on what I find out.
Now, if you're taking about springs - I would be somewhat surprised if the B&G springs were in stock because they've been out of production for maybe 10 years now. Finding some place with some Eibach springs wouldn't surprise me so much because there were several sets floating around on eBay and other websites not too long ago, so in duration of being "obsolete", the Eibach's are still in their infancy so to speak. So, getting some Eibach's wouldn't surprise me.
The big thing that I'm would almost bet huge money on is the Koni struts. I would about fall out of my chair and be incredibly jealous if you were somehow able to get your hand on a set of Konis. I think chromey even talked directly with Koni with no luck.
If you by some miracle do find Koni struts please let me know because I will instantly buy them
But yeah, you are completely correct about how there logically should be a plethora of "unused" Koni/Tokico/Eibach/etc since there weren't ever THAT many people modding 3rd gens. I've thought this same thing over the past few years, and I'm sure there are tons of Konis and Tokicos (and Greddy catbacks for that matter) sitting around in warehouses/backrooms/storage places. But with no "link" or method to get at them they're likely to sit there forever or even trashed.
Last edited by James92SE; 07-10-2011 at 06:07 PM.
#14
Wait, what?
How do you plan on buying either Koni's OR Tokico's? They're both long out of production and I would highly highly doubt anybody has any in stock anywhere.
I've been on Tokico blues and Intrax for 11 years now. Would always have loved to go Koni but I missed my chance and now they no longer exist. I would settle for another set of Tok's but those are long gone too.
Historically, Eibach's on Tokico's were always considered the best "budget" combo. Of course, Koni's on Eibach's were always the cream of the crop.
So where did you find Koni's and or Tokico's? Do let me know because I will buy some with the quickness. Don't want to burst a bubble but I predict any place that claims to have them will e-mail after ordering and say they're not available.
And, for the record, B&G's on the 3rd gen were lower on the back and fugly IMO.
How do you plan on buying either Koni's OR Tokico's? They're both long out of production and I would highly highly doubt anybody has any in stock anywhere.
I've been on Tokico blues and Intrax for 11 years now. Would always have loved to go Koni but I missed my chance and now they no longer exist. I would settle for another set of Tok's but those are long gone too.
Historically, Eibach's on Tokico's were always considered the best "budget" combo. Of course, Koni's on Eibach's were always the cream of the crop.
So where did you find Koni's and or Tokico's? Do let me know because I will buy some with the quickness. Don't want to burst a bubble but I predict any place that claims to have them will e-mail after ordering and say they're not available.
And, for the record, B&G's on the 3rd gen were lower on the back and fugly IMO.
#15
teh Optical illusion!?//111onen
That does look nice though. But really for whatever reason the vast majority of B&G suspension 3rd gens I'd seen over the years were lower in the back. The one that really sticks in my mind is Stu's Maxima before he turned it into that green monstrosity.
I should say, they LOOKED lower because as well all know the rear wheel well isn't as high as the front, so a drop really needs to be not quite as low in the back. Which is why Intrax was actually 1.75" ish up front and 1.5" ish in the back
That does look nice though. But really for whatever reason the vast majority of B&G suspension 3rd gens I'd seen over the years were lower in the back. The one that really sticks in my mind is Stu's Maxima before he turned it into that green monstrosity.
I should say, they LOOKED lower because as well all know the rear wheel well isn't as high as the front, so a drop really needs to be not quite as low in the back. Which is why Intrax was actually 1.75" ish up front and 1.5" ish in the back
#16
Well you only linked to the B&G springs and the Eibach springs. I was talking about Koni and Tokico struts.
Now, if you're taking about springs - I would be somewhat surprised if the B&G springs were in stock because they've been out of production for maybe 10 years now. Finding some place with some Eibach springs wouldn't surprise me so much because there were several sets floating around on eBay and other websites not too long ago, so in duration of being "obsolete", the Eibach's are still in their infancy so to speak. So, getting some Eibach's wouldn't surprise me.
The big thing that I'm would almost bet huge money on is the Koni struts. I would about fall out of my chair and be incredibly jealous if you were somehow able to get your hand on a set of Konis. I think chromey even talked directly with Koni with no luck.
If you by some miracle do find Koni struts please let me know because I will instantly buy them
But yeah, you are completely correct about how there logically should be a plethora of "unused" Koni/Tokico/Eibach/etc since there weren't ever THAT many people modding 3rd gens. I've thought this same thing over the past few years, and I'm sure there are tons of Konis and Tokicos (and Greddy catbacks for that matter) sitting around in warehouses/backrooms/storage places. But with no "link" or method to get at them they're likely to sit there forever or even trashed.
Now, if you're taking about springs - I would be somewhat surprised if the B&G springs were in stock because they've been out of production for maybe 10 years now. Finding some place with some Eibach springs wouldn't surprise me so much because there were several sets floating around on eBay and other websites not too long ago, so in duration of being "obsolete", the Eibach's are still in their infancy so to speak. So, getting some Eibach's wouldn't surprise me.
The big thing that I'm would almost bet huge money on is the Koni struts. I would about fall out of my chair and be incredibly jealous if you were somehow able to get your hand on a set of Konis. I think chromey even talked directly with Koni with no luck.
If you by some miracle do find Koni struts please let me know because I will instantly buy them
But yeah, you are completely correct about how there logically should be a plethora of "unused" Koni/Tokico/Eibach/etc since there weren't ever THAT many people modding 3rd gens. I've thought this same thing over the past few years, and I'm sure there are tons of Konis and Tokicos (and Greddy catbacks for that matter) sitting around in warehouses/backrooms/storage places. But with no "link" or method to get at them they're likely to sit there forever or even trashed.
Koni's and rear Tokico's
http://www.proimporttuners.com/parts...ks-struts.html
Tokico's F/R
Give it a shot, as far as contacting them. I'll do my best to do that tomorrow as well. If they have them, you have to paypal me $20 haha just kidding.
#17
teh Optical illusion!?//111onen
That does look nice though. But really for whatever reason the vast majority of B&G suspension 3rd gens I'd seen over the years were lower in the back. The one that really sticks in my mind is Stu's Maxima before he turned it into that green monstrosity.
I should say, they LOOKED lower because as well all know the rear wheel well isn't as high as the front, so a drop really needs to be not quite as low in the back. Which is why Intrax was actually 1.75" ish up front and 1.5" ish in the back
That does look nice though. But really for whatever reason the vast majority of B&G suspension 3rd gens I'd seen over the years were lower in the back. The one that really sticks in my mind is Stu's Maxima before he turned it into that green monstrosity.
I should say, they LOOKED lower because as well all know the rear wheel well isn't as high as the front, so a drop really needs to be not quite as low in the back. Which is why Intrax was actually 1.75" ish up front and 1.5" ish in the back
#19
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#23
it was worse with Ebay, i bought Tokico and Koni from 4-5 sellers and this was after emailing to make sure theyre in-stock, none had them of course and it took a while to get the money back
one seller said all listed items are 100% in-stock ready to go, so grabbed a set of Tokico and afterwards guess what
one seller said all listed items are 100% in-stock ready to go, so grabbed a set of Tokico and afterwards guess what
#26
#27
thats if anybody wants to drop that much money into a 3rd gen's suspension in the first place.
#28
I was gonna say just order the ones for the front, id be a little edgey about throwing them on the rear of the car but we are not talking about springs so it can most likely work. Koni can also revalve them to the spec you want.
thats if anybody wants to drop that much money into a 3rd gen's suspension in the first place.
thats if anybody wants to drop that much money into a 3rd gen's suspension in the first place.
#29
Are you back in the 3rd game CapedCadaver?
#31
I have the B&G's myself but didn't install the springs yet. Yeah I know that doesn't help but they look like they'll work good and they come in red. I was waiting on getting some other steering/suspension parts. I just installed front passenger side ball joint/ sway link/ tie rod& tie rod end to the control arm. What a bytch!! the stud that the front bushing is supposed to slide onto was fused to the stud. I had to twist and turn the LCA to separate the rubber part of the bushing to get the control arm off the stud. I was left with the inner part of the bushing fused to the stud. I ended up cutting this piece of steel tubing off with my dremel as to not damage the stud. After cutting many lines into the steel tubing I was then able to 3pound hammer and chisel the tube off. What a nightmare to do laying in my gravel driveway.........I need a lift!~!~
Last edited by shiloh51933; 07-16-2011 at 03:38 PM.
#33
Wait, what?
How do you plan on buying either Koni's OR Tokico's? They're both long out of production and I would highly highly doubt anybody has any in stock anywhere.
I've been on Tokico blues and Intrax for 11 years now. Would always have loved to go Koni but I missed my chance and now they no longer exist. I would settle for another set of Tok's but those are long gone too.
Historically, Eibach's on Tokico's were always considered the best "budget" combo. Of course, Koni's on Eibach's were always the cream of the crop.
So where did you find Koni's and or Tokico's? Do let me know because I will buy some with the quickness. Don't want to burst a bubble but I predict any place that claims to have them will e-mail after ordering and say they're not available.
And, for the record, B&G's on the 3rd gen were lower on the back and fugly IMO.
How do you plan on buying either Koni's OR Tokico's? They're both long out of production and I would highly highly doubt anybody has any in stock anywhere.
I've been on Tokico blues and Intrax for 11 years now. Would always have loved to go Koni but I missed my chance and now they no longer exist. I would settle for another set of Tok's but those are long gone too.
Historically, Eibach's on Tokico's were always considered the best "budget" combo. Of course, Koni's on Eibach's were always the cream of the crop.
So where did you find Koni's and or Tokico's? Do let me know because I will buy some with the quickness. Don't want to burst a bubble but I predict any place that claims to have them will e-mail after ordering and say they're not available.
And, for the record, B&G's on the 3rd gen were lower on the back and fugly IMO.
#35
You could likely offset it by making sure to install new upper strut mounts on the rear. They tend to compress over the years and can lead to saggy *** syndrome even on stock springs. Then again, Greeny's picture doesn't look lower in the back, so you never know
#36
Sorry the BG's did not work out for you, but if you are interested in something different I am in Central VA and I just took the aftermarket suspension off my car and I want to sell it as a complete set. I have tokico blues all the way around, with eibachs in the rear and Suspension Techniques in the front. If you are interested I should have pics by the end of the week. All you would need to bolt this on to your car would be swapping your rear hubs on to my set up (just one nut to swap them over) rear hubs (assuming you have rear discs)
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