My 3G w/OBX Headers/Y-pipe!!
#1
My 3G w/OBX Headers/Y-pipe!!
I did my best to take some good pics for you guys to see, I haven't done a sound clip yet due to a fuel issue with kinda new FP. I originally had a 255lph fuel pump for her but used the pump on my Volvo 850 because the Volvo pump had a faulty check valve cause delayed starting. She definately likes the new headers/y-pipe and the new muffler. I had to drill out 8 EM studs with an angled drill, I broke 6 of the studs during removal. Unfortunately I only have 1 impact wrench and needed an angled impact to remove the other studs, I probably would of had better luck not breaking any studs with an impact to remove the unbroken studs. When you remove old studs/nuts like that they usually break when removing them with hand tools. I successfully removed the broken studs and replaced all the suds/nuts with new Nissan hardware. The rear OBX header flange had to be modified because it would intermittently tap into the steering rack. I still need to get her tuned but I'm happy with the results so far, this has really brought some life back into my Max. I'm still not finished with the suspension and i have some nice wheels for her.
#2
looks shiny me like shiny
was just doing some work to my pearl white digidash max too
if you havnt got a set of VE tails on there it looks perfect with teh pearl white
[img]https://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb444/promoke/DSC01093.jpg[img]
also this now looks nice
[img]https://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb444/promoke/DSC01090.jpg[img]
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looks good bro cant wait to see the wheels
was just doing some work to my pearl white digidash max too
if you havnt got a set of VE tails on there it looks perfect with teh pearl white
[img]https://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb444/promoke/DSC01093.jpg[img]
also this now looks nice
[img]https://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb444/promoke/DSC01090.jpg[img]
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looks good bro cant wait to see the wheels
Last edited by DMad8724; 05-13-2012 at 02:28 PM.
#3
PPl that haven't exprienced a VG with headers....should give it a shot......I removed all the spring loaded ball/socket hardware and just used shorter bolts and nuts to bolt the joint together no gaskets necessary then I added a 10"- 12" flex section on the rear of the ypipe to take up the movement.....! This system is Identical to the infamous Pacesetter except that it's in SS form....This is a good mod guys!
#5
Appreciate all the compliments guys, planning on getting her tuned. I wasn't going post any pics until I was finished but a fellow 3g member encouraged me to throw up some shot's. I'm still working my way towards that vision in my head and this mod has remotivated my enthusiasm in my Maxima.
Last edited by shiloh51933; 03-19-2013 at 09:08 AM.
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When asked the question I thought the OP meant a run on the dyno to see where she's at as of now. Your correct, it would make sense to do it as you stated. I believe my brothers tuner does it in this manner.
#12
Ok, so you got the headers for the Vg30e and had them coated? Thats awesome too, did you wrap them after words? When I had a turbo header and all on my 92 celica, I had to coat and wrap everything to help keep the temp down in the engine bay, that s**t gets hot quickly. I am looking for a set of headers, yall got a link or something? I already had straight threw exhaust, sounds ok but I want more burlyness
#14
Ok, so you got the headers for the Vg30e and had them coated? Thats awesome too, did you wrap them after words? When I had a turbo header and all on my 92 celica, I had to coat and wrap everything to help keep the temp down in the engine bay, that s**t gets hot quickly. I am looking for a set of headers, yall got a link or something? I already had straight threw exhaust, sounds ok but I want more burlyness
#15
I'm running a Megan SS 2.5'inch inlet w/3.0' dual outlets, sounds good with the rest of my exhaust set up. Unfortunately I'm having issues with my fuel system and will not be able to get any video's with sound clips until this is resolved. As soon as I straighten out the fuel system I'm going to post some video's and get her tuned.
#16
I'm running a Megan SS 2.5'inch inlet w/3.0' dual outlets, sounds good with the rest of my exhaust set up. Unfortunately I'm having issues with my fuel system and will not be able to get any video's with sound clips until this is resolved. As soon as I straighten out the fuel system I'm going to post some video's and get her tuned.
#20
kinda reminds me of people who cam the living shiit out of a V6 or a 4cyl motor and say it "sounds like a V8" at idle. No, it sounds like a heavily cammed motor at idle, not a V8. Or even some people simply refer to any loud exhaust system as "sounding like a V8"
#21
actually it will sound nothing like a 4G maxima at all. the VQ is aluminum block and DOHC. The VG is iron block and SOHC. Just because they are both V6's doesn't mean they will sound identical. I've heard a G35 muffler put onto a VG30 and it sounded NOTHING like a G35. Even the VG and VE don't sound alike (SOHC vs vvt-DOHC)
kinda reminds me of people who cam the living shiit out of a V6 or a 4cyl motor and say it "sounds like a V8" at idle. No, it sounds like a heavily cammed motor at idle, not a V8. Or even some people simply refer to any loud exhaust system as "sounding like a V8"
kinda reminds me of people who cam the living shiit out of a V6 or a 4cyl motor and say it "sounds like a V8" at idle. No, it sounds like a heavily cammed motor at idle, not a V8. Or even some people simply refer to any loud exhaust system as "sounding like a V8"
what do you mean nothing at all? the fact that they're v6's with unequal y pipes will make it sound similar.
even making the y pipe equal makes it sound vq-like and much less raspy
http://forums.maxima.org/3rd-generat...w-exhaust.html
the sohc vs dohc makes hardly a sound difference imo and since when is material (iron vs aluminum) a factor in engine sound?? obviously it'll never sound like a vq35de cause of variable intake and vct that change the sound throughout the rpm range and lmao why would you even think a muffler will change the sound of the engine?? thats like saying i'll put corvette exhaust on my cavalier and BAM ohv v8 sound
I didn't even come close to saying that, i'm not stupid. never will a v6 sound like any other configuration engine cammed or otherwise.
#22
what do you mean nothing at all? the fact that they're v6's with unequal y pipes will make it sound similar.
even making the y pipe equal makes it sound vq-like and much less raspy
http://forums.maxima.org/3rd-generat...w-exhaust.html
the sohc vs dohc makes hardly a sound difference imo and since when is material (iron vs aluminum) a factor in engine sound?? obviously it'll never sound like a vq35de cause of variable intake and vct that change the sound throughout the rpm range and lmao why would you even think a muffler will change the sound of the engine?? thats like saying i'll put corvette exhaust on my cavalier and BAM ohv v8 sound
I didn't even come close to saying that, i'm not stupid. never will a v6 sound like any other configuration engine cammed or otherwise.
even making the y pipe equal makes it sound vq-like and much less raspy
http://forums.maxima.org/3rd-generat...w-exhaust.html
the sohc vs dohc makes hardly a sound difference imo and since when is material (iron vs aluminum) a factor in engine sound?? obviously it'll never sound like a vq35de cause of variable intake and vct that change the sound throughout the rpm range and lmao why would you even think a muffler will change the sound of the engine?? thats like saying i'll put corvette exhaust on my cavalier and BAM ohv v8 sound
I didn't even come close to saying that, i'm not stupid. never will a v6 sound like any other configuration engine cammed or otherwise.
#23
what do you mean nothing at all? the fact that they're v6's with unequal y pipes will make it sound similar.
even making the y pipe equal makes it sound vq-like and much less raspy
http://forums.maxima.org/3rd-generat...w-exhaust.html
the sohc vs dohc makes hardly a sound difference imo and since when is material (iron vs aluminum) a factor in engine sound?? obviously it'll never sound like a vq35de cause of variable intake and vct that change the sound throughout the rpm range and lmao why would you even think a muffler will change the sound of the engine?? thats like saying i'll put corvette exhaust on my cavalier and BAM ohv v8 sound
I didn't even come close to saying that, i'm not stupid. never will a v6 sound like any other configuration engine cammed or otherwise.
even making the y pipe equal makes it sound vq-like and much less raspy
http://forums.maxima.org/3rd-generat...w-exhaust.html
the sohc vs dohc makes hardly a sound difference imo and since when is material (iron vs aluminum) a factor in engine sound?? obviously it'll never sound like a vq35de cause of variable intake and vct that change the sound throughout the rpm range and lmao why would you even think a muffler will change the sound of the engine?? thats like saying i'll put corvette exhaust on my cavalier and BAM ohv v8 sound
I didn't even come close to saying that, i'm not stupid. never will a v6 sound like any other configuration engine cammed or otherwise.
As far as the block material... different metals have different resonances... i believe matt93se was the first one who brought up the difference in sound between different materials. It might not be a "major" difference, but still a difference.
now YES you will be able to identify all of the above as "V6" or at the very least, "6 cylinder", but if you do a blindfolded driveby you'll still be able to pick out which one is the VG, which one is the 4th gen, no matter how similar of an exhaust system you try and put on them.
and YES putting a different muffler on a car will make that particular car sound different than it did before, but it doesn't make two different engines sound exactly alike. And not all engines of the same exact configuration sound alike.. Have you ever listened to a LT1 vs an LS1 in stock 93-97 and 98-02 camaros? There's definitely a difference in sound, and those even have the same valve count.
Last edited by CapedCadaver; 03-22-2013 at 10:11 AM.
#24
actually it will sound nothing like a 4G maxima at all. the VQ is aluminum block and DOHC. The VG is iron block and SOHC. Just because they are both V6's doesn't mean they will sound identical. I've heard a G35 muffler put onto a VG30 and it sounded NOTHING like a G35. Even the VG and VE don't sound alike (SOHC vs vvt-DOHC)
kinda reminds me of people who cam the living shiit out of a V6 or a 4cyl motor and say it "sounds like a V8" at idle. No, it sounds like a heavily cammed motor at idle, not a V8. Or even some people simply refer to any loud exhaust system as "sounding like a V8"
kinda reminds me of people who cam the living shiit out of a V6 or a 4cyl motor and say it "sounds like a V8" at idle. No, it sounds like a heavily cammed motor at idle, not a V8. Or even some people simply refer to any loud exhaust system as "sounding like a V8"
#25
i mean you'll be able to tell the 2 engine notes apart from a mile away. Even the VG and VE on a bone-stock set of 3rd gens sound noticeably different... the VE sounds much more like a VQ than the VG30E does. And no matter what exhaust setup people try on a Z31 it NEVER sounds anything like (or as good as) a Z32. Sure some of that has to do with the manifold layout, but, say, my VG33E pathfinder has the same "dual exhaust" layout (until you reach the muffler(s)) as the Z32NA, and they don't sound very similar either.
As far as the block material... different metals have different resonances... i believe matt93se was the first one who brought up the difference in sound between different materials. It might not be a "major" difference, but still a difference.
now YES you will be able to identify all of the above as "V6" or at the very least, "6 cylinder", but if you do a blindfolded driveby you'll still be able to pick out which one is the VG, which one is the 4th gen, no matter how similar of an exhaust system you try and put on them.
and YES putting a different muffler on a car will make that particular car sound different than it did before, but it doesn't make two different engines sound exactly alike. And not all engines of the same exact configuration sound alike.. Have you ever listened to a LT1 vs an LS1 in stock 93-97 and 98-02 camaros? There's definitely a difference in sound, and those even have the same valve count.
As far as the block material... different metals have different resonances... i believe matt93se was the first one who brought up the difference in sound between different materials. It might not be a "major" difference, but still a difference.
now YES you will be able to identify all of the above as "V6" or at the very least, "6 cylinder", but if you do a blindfolded driveby you'll still be able to pick out which one is the VG, which one is the 4th gen, no matter how similar of an exhaust system you try and put on them.
and YES putting a different muffler on a car will make that particular car sound different than it did before, but it doesn't make two different engines sound exactly alike. And not all engines of the same exact configuration sound alike.. Have you ever listened to a LT1 vs an LS1 in stock 93-97 and 98-02 camaros? There's definitely a difference in sound, and those even have the same valve count.
#26
Have you ever even heard a stock VG vs a stock VE? Have you ever taken then both down a drag strip and heard their full rev-range? Their exhaust layout is identical. The car they're in is identical. Their sound is absolutely not identical. VG is more "primal", VE is more "sweet/refined".
#27
http://forums.maxima.org/6382062-post10.html maybe you don't trust me... but everyone on here should be able to trust matt93se considering how long he's been doing this....
Last edited by CapedCadaver; 03-22-2013 at 11:37 AM.
#28
this is purely IMO....
sound of the exhaust is strictly air passing through pipes and mufflers, etc etc...to get the tone. so when you have more air/volume you tend to have a deeper tone...think honda small 4 cyl verses a big block V8.
given a VG30E is SOHC and 2 valve per cyl and the VE30DE is a DOHC and 4 valves per cyl both will be totally different when it comes to sound.
the VE will sound closer to the VQ...similar block...4 valves per cyl...both DOHC.
the VG is going to sound more primitive with a SOHC and the lesser flowing 2 valve per cyl.
sound of the exhaust is strictly air passing through pipes and mufflers, etc etc...to get the tone. so when you have more air/volume you tend to have a deeper tone...think honda small 4 cyl verses a big block V8.
given a VG30E is SOHC and 2 valve per cyl and the VE30DE is a DOHC and 4 valves per cyl both will be totally different when it comes to sound.
the VE will sound closer to the VQ...similar block...4 valves per cyl...both DOHC.
the VG is going to sound more primitive with a SOHC and the lesser flowing 2 valve per cyl.
#29
My point was its not gonna be extremely different... I do agree with everyone saying the vg will spound more coarse and it is distinguishable but not totally different.
the vq30 can sound similar to the ve except when the vq30 goes passed 5k rpm it sounds reedy cause of the manifold, the 00vi changes that btw. Imho with vvt and . Variable intake the ve sounds more like a vq30dek and/or a vq35de
the vq30 can sound similar to the ve except when the vq30 goes passed 5k rpm it sounds reedy cause of the manifold, the 00vi changes that btw. Imho with vvt and . Variable intake the ve sounds more like a vq30dek and/or a vq35de
#30
My point was its not gonna be extremely different... I do agree with everyone saying the vg will spound more coarse and it is distinguishable but not totally different.
the vq30 can sound similar to the ve except when the vq30 goes passed 5k rpm it sounds reedy cause of the manifold, the 00vi changes that btw. Imho with vvt and . Variable intake the ve sounds more like a vq30dek and/or a vq35de
the vq30 can sound similar to the ve except when the vq30 goes passed 5k rpm it sounds reedy cause of the manifold, the 00vi changes that btw. Imho with vvt and . Variable intake the ve sounds more like a vq30dek and/or a vq35de
Tho tbh the worst sounding of all these nissan V6's is the VG30E in Z31 trim... it just sounds straight up unpleasant when driven hard.... almost flatulent (without being raspy, if that makes sense). Not sure where that comes from more... the wrap-around exhaust or the design of the intake manifold... I'm just hoping for the best once i add a new turbo-back, muffler, and intercooler. But odds are it'll still sound lame.
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