How much of a difference performance wise are these two tires? I live in Maryland and i know the more practical tire to get would be the HTR+'s, but the HTRZ II's have gotten great reviews and look way better than the HTR's in my opinion. I'm trying to get as much feed back as possible. I've already posted this on the D.C. forum as well. Thanks

 

I chose the HTR+ for the overall package: Price, performance, and the all-season performance ability. I have no experience with the other tire, but my general impression of the HTR+s is that they are a good tire. Just hope that you never have to make a warranty claim...

 

who makes them?

 

Sumitomo (subsidiary of Dunlop)

 

I thought that was something they made up for the fast and the furious...

ha ha ha

"sumomoto ZX tires, now we know they were in the street racing world"

Sorry I need a life.

 

Are Dunlop and Goodyear affiliated? I know that Sumitomo and Goodyear are in some collaboration together...

 

I bought the HTR ZII's.. they had better test results than the +'s.. and.. well it doesnt snow much here, so the all season i didnt need. I get them monday, so i cant tell you how i think of them..

 

You are correct!

 

I had HTR+s before
they owned

the performance was GOOD ENOUGH for me..
no matter how hard i pushed it, i couldn't get them to squeal..
i got them over the HTRZs becuase they were all season tires.. plus they were cheaper.. and the performance was honestly great.. i think they'd satisfy any enthusiast unless you drive your car really crazy

 

HTRs have some sidewall flex even in 18"s the HTRZ IIs are a better tire to me I have them and I love them 245/40-18 I'd spend the extra 10 bucks a tire and get em

 

Thanks for all the feed back guys. If there are any other people with the Sumitomo's, give me some feedback, thanks.

 

What else do you need? They're both cheap. Do you need all-season or not? If you do, get the HTR+. If you don't, get the HTR ZII.

 

I need more of a life, because I am correcting you lol . In that movie he said Mashimoto ZX tires, not Sumitomo. As far as I know, Mashimoto is not a real brand.

Anyways back to the topic. Are you planning on running these tires all year in Maryland. Does it snow in maryland? I'm assuming it does, and if you are, you have to go with the HTR+. The HTRZII is NOT an all season tire, you will end up wrapped around a tree or telephone poll if you try to drive on these in the SLIGHTEST snowfall. Seriously, summer performance tires and cold/snow are NOT a smart combo if you want to live through the winter. I got stuck on my old Kumho's in a slight snowfall once, I almost died. When the temp drops below 40, the tread compound gets so hard it is hard to stop, you lock up your brakes even on dry roads. It's very dangerous.

 

It snows, but nothing to bragg about. I would sayat the most 6 inch to a foot on a bad day. But other than that, it just stays cold most of the winter and fall months. Thanks for the advice.

 

Kwamdoo,

Here is some stuff from Tirerack that might help.

Survey comparison between HTR+ and HTR ZII

Owner Reviews of HTR Z II (115 of them)

Owner reviews of the HTR +

The HTR + beat the Z II in everything except noise (kkep in mind that these are user surveys and not from professional raters). I like the HTR+ because they are all season so you can drive in the winter a lot better. They also have a treadwear rating of 360 vs 220.

Hope it helps.

Steve

 

Whew thank god I didn't do that verbatim from that movie. Thank you, you made me feel 10,000 times better.

 

What about the HTRZs? I'm currently running the HTRZs and I've had HTRZIIs. IMO, the HTRZs are much more sticky and aggressive, but they should be because they have a 160 treadwear (nearly track level grip).


Dave