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Old 12-05-2002 | 12:41 PM
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ABS light after spinning tires in snow???

Hey Guys,

First off i live on top of 2 hills here in MA, i was coming home today trying to get up the hill in about 2" of snow and tires were spinning most of the way up. I made it, but now my ABS light is on for some reason. Anyone know why the tires spinning would cause this and did I maybe mess up something??
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Old 12-05-2002 | 12:46 PM
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You can try this test
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....eset+abs+light

And in here they say to try reseting the ECU to get it to go out

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....eset+abs+light

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Old 12-05-2002 | 05:20 PM
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your ABS light coming on under those conditions is normal, but if it stays on that is not.
your ABS sensor is in the rear..usually on the wheels that are not powered. your car sensed that the front wheels were moving and the rears were not thus thinking the rear had locked up. just like being on a dyno or something.
Old 12-05-2002 | 05:48 PM
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Correct....that does the same thing here in NY when we have our emissions tested on the dyno.......
Old 12-05-2002 | 06:09 PM
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You guys were right, after it cooled down i went to bring my gf home and the light went off after a minute or two. Thanks much for your help.
Old 12-05-2002 | 07:33 PM
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Re: ABS light after spinning tires in snow???

Originally posted by Krash513
Hey Guys,

First off i live on top of 2 hills here in MA, i was coming home today trying to get up the hill in about 2" of snow and tires were spinning most of the way up. I made it, but now my ABS light is on for some reason. Anyone know why the tires spinning would cause this and did I maybe mess up something??
Thanks
Wow it just happen to me today.. First time in 5 yrs, I saw ABS light came up on hill. Max is really sux in snow.. My car almost spin while going up, and I just decide to turn around and look for other route.
Anyway, I restart the engine to see if ABS coming back..but guess what!!!!!!! I saw O/D light was blinking like 5 times.. I was so worry..
What's going on?
Old 12-05-2002 | 08:05 PM
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Originally posted by mayhem_J30
your ABS light coming on under those conditions is normal, but if it stays on that is not.
your ABS sensor is in the rear..usually on the wheels that are not powered. your car sensed that the front wheels were moving and the rears were not thus thinking the rear had locked up. just like being on a dyno or something.

Uh, sorry. . .

Each wheel has it's own ABS sensor. If you only had ABS sensors on the rear wheels, you would only have ABS on your rear wheels.

Except in vehicles (like many domestic pickups) equipped with rear-only ABS, a sensor is required at each of the 4 wheels in order to monitor skidding conditions and meter the ABS pump accordingly (to each wheel individually), thereby assisting straight-line control of the car in a reduced traction braking scenario.

I'm stumped on what's causing this problem - it shouldn't happen under the conditions described, unless the brakes were applied while the drive wheels were still losing traction. The difference in front vs. rear wheelspeed (Eg: if you made a quick transition from the gas pedal to the brake pedal & the front wheels were still spinning) might be enough to confuse the ABS computer, in turn triggering the ABS warning light.
Old 12-05-2002 | 08:07 PM
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abs has a light?
Old 12-05-2002 | 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by iregula
abs has a light?
Yep, it's yellow. You can't miss it.

If your Max has ABS, the light will come on on the dash when the ignition is turned to the "ON" position and it will stay illuminated for a couple seconds after you start the car, then turn off (if ABS is working normally).

If something's wrong with the ABS system, or the computer "hiccups," (as seems to be the case here) the light may stay on for a spell, or until the problem is fixed and the light is reset.
Old 12-05-2002 | 10:12 PM
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Re: Re: ABS light after spinning tires in snow???

Originally posted by eskim_77

I saw O/D light was blinking like 5 times.. I was so worry..
What's going on?
typically, a flashing o/d light is a tranny issue.
check your owners manual, or search!

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Old 12-05-2002 | 10:57 PM
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Re: Re: ABS light after spinning tires in snow???

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Wow it just happen to me today.. First time in 5 yrs, I saw ABS light came up on hill. Max is really sux in snow.. My car almost spin while going up, and I just decide to turn around and look for other route.
Anyway, I restart the engine to see if ABS coming back..but guess what!!!!!!! I saw O/D light was blinking like 5 times.. I was so worry..
What's going on?
Dont worry its only the tranny spitting codes at you, once you stop skidding and do some normal driving it goes away.

It Happend to me 2 years ago after slipping in the snow the whole day.
Old 12-06-2002 | 05:52 AM
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i had fun slipping in the snow...the car sounded like absolute crap tho, and brakes were just makin all kinds of noises....oh well it was fun....i dont have abs either, so it was skid city all day
Old 12-06-2002 | 06:08 AM
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Uh, sorry. . .

Each wheel has it's own ABS sensor. If you only had ABS sensors on the rear wheels, you would only have ABS on your rear wheels.

Except in vehicles (like many domestic pickups) equipped with rear-only ABS, a sensor is required at each of the 4 wheels in order to monitor skidding conditions and meter the ABS pump accordingly (to each wheel individually), thereby assisting straight-line control of the car in a reduced traction braking scenario.

I'm stumped on what's causing this problem - it shouldn't happen under the conditions described, unless the brakes were applied while the drive wheels were still losing traction. The difference in front vs. rear wheelspeed (Eg: if you made a quick transition from the gas pedal to the brake pedal & the front wheels were still spinning) might be enough to confuse the ABS computer, in turn triggering the ABS warning light.
thanks. the sensor on the front must not be as obvious as it is on the rear. just like on my other infiniti that's RWD, I noticed the sensor on the front but not the rear.

But why are you stumped on why his ABS light came on? It's perfectly obvious. His front wheels were probably spinning wildly out of control while the rears were hardly moving...the exact scenario for ABS to do it's job...WHEN the brakes are applied.

At least you know your sensor works!
Old 12-06-2002 | 06:34 AM
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Why not?? ABS is always monitoring the wheels for speed discrepancies, even when the brakes are not applied. That way, it knows what to do the moment you hit the brakes. The ABS should also allow some "give" for normal discrepancies, like when going into a turn, the outside wheels are always turning faster faster than the inside one. So, ABS should forgive like a 5 mph difference in speed of all the wheels. But in the snow, while struggling to get up that hill, your front wheels can go up to 80 mph, while the rears are just chilling doing 5 mph. Of course, the ABS is gonna monitor that and freak out. Result? Yellow Light

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Uh, sorry. . .

Each wheel has it's own ABS sensor. If you only had ABS sensors on the rear wheels, you would only have ABS on your rear wheels.

Except in vehicles (like many domestic pickups) equipped with rear-only ABS, a sensor is required at each of the 4 wheels in order to monitor skidding conditions and meter the ABS pump accordingly (to each wheel individually), thereby assisting straight-line control of the car in a reduced traction braking scenario.

I'm stumped on what's causing this problem - it shouldn't happen under the conditions described, unless the brakes were applied while the drive wheels were still losing traction. The difference in front vs. rear wheelspeed (Eg: if you made a quick transition from the gas pedal to the brake pedal & the front wheels were still spinning) might be enough to confuse the ABS computer, in turn triggering the ABS warning light.
Old 12-06-2002 | 10:26 PM
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Re: Re: Re: ABS light after spinning tires in snow???

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Dont worry its only the tranny spitting codes at you, once you stop skidding and do some normal driving it goes away.

It Happend to me 2 years ago after slipping in the snow the whole day.
Thanks for reassuring me.. I was so worried because I smell of burning plastic until todays.. And one of my PIAA spot light got shorted. I thought something was wrong with my electrical that might related with this O/D light blinking. I ran A/T diagnostic test, (one long pulse, 10 short pulse) it seems normal to me.
Thank you!!
Old 12-06-2002 | 10:55 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: ABS light after spinning tires in snow???

Originally posted by eskim_77


Thanks for reassuring me.. I was so worried because I smell of burning plastic until todays.. And one of my PIAA spot light got shorted. I thought something was wrong with my electrical that might related with this O/D light blinking. I ran A/T diagnostic test, (one long pulse, 10 short pulse) it seems normal to me.
Thank you!!
I apologize - this is is , but. . .

Did the bulb burn out, or did your wiring harness melt? Sounds like the latter. I'm guessing that was the burning plastic smell - have a look at the wires coming off the back of the headlamp.

If you're running overwattage bulbs (> 45/65w), you might want to pick up a pair of aftermarket wiring harnesses to handle the extra amperage.
Old 12-10-2002 | 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by KWheelzSB


I apologize - this is is , but. . .

Did the bulb burn out, or did your wiring harness melt? Sounds like the latter. I'm guessing that was the burning plastic smell - have a look at the wires coming off the back of the headlamp.

If you're running overwattage bulbs (> 45/65w), you might want to pick up a pair of aftermarket wiring harnesses to handle the extra amperage.
It's alright..
I have upgraded harness in headlight, currently, I use 80/100w for headlight. They are look alright, and my PIAA Spotlight(Racing light) is the one has problem. Like I mentioned before, one bulb burned out during snow storm.
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