JAIMECBR900

Well if he was, he certainly is buying into some real commercial hype. The "jammers" DO NOT work. It has been shown time and time again that a passive jammer is worthless. The only "jammer" that works is one that is active in sending out signals to distort the radar gun....problem is two fold:

1. It's illegal to own one of those.
2. If it wasn't illegal, everyone would need a big truck as the only vehicle to carry the huge antenna it needs to work properly.

People....don't believe the ridiculous claims of a manufacturer that claims that a jammer works or they'll pay for your ticket...all for less than $100. If that were true, how come Valentine, Cincinatti Microwave, Bel, etc have not jumped on that band wagon and made their own????? Don't you think any of those manufacturers that I just listed, that have been in the business for many many years (Mike Valentine, owner of Valentine 1, used to be the chief engineer at Cincinatti Microwave and designed the original Passport that was top performer for many many years) have deep enough pockets to totally blanket or take out a company with a name like "Rocky Mountain"?????? Use logic people, not commercials. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

tecman4

I had a cobra at one time. how is valentine1 any better?
It cost about $130
is it better with the instant-on-radar?
thats the main reason I got rid of my radar detector.

luckee2bhere

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I think the reason those companies dont make um is cause its ILLEGAL.

I dont know how they work. My friend told me that you can hide them. They dont have to be visable. Also they dont work all the time he said. He told me if they shoot you directly it wont work. But it will block out the radar that is just "scanning" around. I dont know the effectiveness of the blockers at all, so you might be right about them being all hype.

MAXIN

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How about these "shifter"/laser detectors from escort:

http://www.escortradar.com/srx.htm
http://www.escortradar.com/sr7.htm
http://www.escortradar.com/zr3.htm

do you think they work? although they are $$$

dwapenyi

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Then what's the point for using them at all, then?

DW

meccanoble

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i can get u that Sr7 at a pretty good price and YES IT IS WORTH IT!!!

i have the 8500 and it owns, RD, the ONLY thing on the car u DO NOT go cheap on, especially if u plan on speeding which basically everyone does, unless u have like 20's and a kit

JAIMECBR900

I had never heard of this "shifter" and as I can tell it has never been tested to show it works. Even coming from a good company like escort, i'd still be very leary of this (yet). The width of the "light" beam in a laser gun is about the size of a pencil. I find it hard to believe that anything, unless it's directly in the line of sight of the laser, can do much against it within the microseconds it takes to get a reading. All radar detectors have a "field of view" for lasers or how wide and tall they can see the laser in front of the car. The wider field of view the better reception, simple. But since the laser gun is on a very very short burst, it is very difficult to detect even with a wide view. You basically have to detect it when they're shooting the car next to you (and that's a big fat maybe there) to have any chance at all. Even then...guess who's next????

I'll remain open about a "shifter" from escort due to their reputation. If its proven to work, by anyone besides radartest.com , then I will be one of the first people to buy one. That's the same thing I said about a V1 vs my 8500. When I clearly saw the advantage, I bought the V1. Eventhough I still use the 8500 in the wife's car.

luckee2bhere

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man i dont know the physics of the whole thing. i just assume that the laser is "scanning" around most of the time to try to pick up speeders or that the cop can go "manual" mode and shoot a car directly

I have zero idea how it all works.

dwapenyi

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Laser is just like instant-on, only different frequencies, laser being laser, of course

In the instant-on mode, a cop sits on the side of the road wating for a target. His radar gun, be it X,K,Ka, Laser, is COMPLETELY OFF while he's wating. The only hope of our catching him is if our radar detector catches him while he's "shooting" someone else near us, and the detector sniffs out some of the gun's emissions.

Now, having said that, even with a V1, Passport, whatever, Laser is EXTREMELY hard to pick up early. If my V1 goes off on Laser, my heart literally jumps and I stand on the brakes b/c I know he is very very near, IF he isn't clocking me. Laser=major advantage cops. Major. The only thing about laser that's on our side is that:

1. It's expensiive, so they are not as common as the others.
2. A cop has to be completely standing still to get a good reading. So, it's a bit cumbersome for them. With a Ka gun etc, a cop can get a reading off of you even if he's in his car going the other way. I know

DW

JAIMECBR900

Looks like someone finally gets it. This is exactly correct and goes along with what I've been saying all along. We have to be smarter tha the RD or it's worthless.

To the people asking why pay more for a RD than $100....read the second paragraph above. With a cheap one, you only get notice when YOU are being clocked. All that's good for is to let you know to pull over and sign the ticket. The high end detectors receive signals from when the police are clocking SOMEONE ELSE way before sometimes you can even see them let alone clock you. That is the only defense, period.

You can believe all the hype surrounding some of the detectors, but if you use a little logic, you'll see that we are saying makes sense.

sandman1098

One more thing about Laser....... Laser style radar guns can not be used in bad weather like rain or fog....... It interferes with the accuracy of the reading the cop gets.......

dwapenyi

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In the northeast NY area, it's been my experience that cops never look for speeders in bad weather. Chasing them in such adverse conditions would be way too dangerous. So, that weakness of laser in bad weather is kind of redundant.

DW

dwapenyi

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Thx

DW

luckee2bhere

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you gotta be a dumba$$ to speed in the rain anyway

SUPREME_GTR

RADARS ARE ALL GARBAGE! BLAHHHHH!

JAIMECBR900

I had read something similar about the laser guns being used at night also. Something about the headlights reflecting back causes false readings. Anyway, even after I read that I've seen and been clocked by police at night with laser. . Go figure.