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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 01:04 AM
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MEVI or 2000 VI

This might be a repost... for that I apologize.


What's the difference and what are the pros and cons of both?
Ease of installation, gains, etc.
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 04:01 AM
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2000 VI is a lot of work and some things aren't a direct fit.
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 09:26 AM
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It also hasn't been really proven on the dyno. I'd still take the 2k VI over the MEVI.
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 11:55 AM
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Have the MEVI...installed and functioning reliably. JWT ECU comming soon to finish off the project. I'm having the fuel cut off set @8000rpm, with plans for the JWT spring kit to avoid valve float.

Are there drawbacks.. Of course. There's always a compromise with any modification you do. With the MEVI, its the slight low to mid range torque loss. The ECU remap hopefully compensates for this. Which will likely lead to a fuel economy compromise... etc etc.

The 2k VI is not a drop in mod, the MEVI is. 2k requires more parts to be replaced, custom fabrication of adapter plates, etc. And you still have an ECU, even with a remap, that is not capable of operating the system in a continuously variable mode (someone correct me if Im wrong here) like the 2k ECU will.

Are the gains over the MEVI worth the effort??? Are either of these worth the effort?? How much time do you spend above 5000rpm's??? Answer that an you'll know what set up you will be happy with.

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p.s I think I'd rather have the 3.3 stroker kit before any of the VI's. I would think that would be the most noticable mod for a daily driver. And you get a "new" engine out of the deal!
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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Well, the 2k manifold works on the same basis as the MEVI. You don't need the ECU really since there apparently isn't any low end loss. You might need it for extended redline but it isn't necessary unlike the MEVI. Both probably cost about the same witht he 2k VI being a bit more expensive. You hook up the 2k vi the same way as the mevi, you set the switchover and be done with it. Right?
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 12:31 PM
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Yes, you are right Big D
But 00 VI will be cheaper than MEVI+ECU, maybe even MEVI alone. We will find out soon if there is any loss or not.
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 12:34 PM
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Just go with a mevi. Right now it's alot less of a hassle because there is ALOT of information on it. Plus like said before the 5th gen manifold is harder to install than the mevi.
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by volkl77
p.s I think I'd rather have the 3.3 stroker kit before any of the VI's. I would think that would be the most noticable mod for a daily driver. And you get a "new" engine out of the deal!
WTF?!?! They have a stroker kit for our VQ's? Where can i find it and how much does it cost?
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by GLEtotehMAX
WTF?!?! They have a stroker kit for our VQ's? Where can i find it and how much does it cost?

you make your own stroker kit by combining vq35 and vq30 parts. price would depend on how cheaply you can get those parts and whether or not you can do the work yourself or if you would want to have a shop do it.


btw if i had it to do right now i would probably go with the 2000 vi, but im one of those weird people who will do a ton of extra work for a little extra power, and i like doing custom fab work and such.
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 02:44 PM
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i was very impressed with the results krismax got with 2000 vi project, 13.8 in a 4th gen n/a
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 02:48 PM
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Didn't he run a 14.1 before that? He also added the 70MM TB, ported the VI manifold, and he ran slicks too didn't he? If you're a person like me who doesn't care how long it takes and you actually enjoy working on the car I'd go with the VI. Although unproven still, it seems like they are both pretty much equal.
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 02:52 PM
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For everybody planning to do the 2000 VI be prepared to buy an E-manage or such to control the DE-K injectors.
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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That's another $300 or so right?
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by GLEtotehMAX
WTF?!?! They have a stroker kit for our VQ's? Where can i find it and how much does it cost?
Not a kit exactly. If I remember reading correctly, VQ35 Crank and Rods. Everything else is VQ30 and it drops right in. There's a thread somewhere here about it.
I've seen the crank for around $200 on car-part.com or $532 for OEM. Rods are $75 a piece. Figure $700 - $1000 plus what ever rebuild costs are for your engine. This will vary depending on what you choose to do. Bare minimum or all out performance. Definitely something I will consider when the time comes. There are folks here better able to explain what they did/tried.

Cheers!
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 04:52 PM
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I always like to work on my car, but sometimes it's just too hard and I don't have all the right tools. MEVI looks like the winner for me.

What's the cost gonna be for a MEVI install?
I'm guessing around $600ish if you get in on the GD and find some other parts at the yard... (or should I be getting new selenoids..)


Is there anyone with a stroker VQ and with any type of VI? That seems like the top of the line NA setup, no?
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Big D
Didn't he run a 14.1 before that? He also added the 70MM TB, ported the VI manifold, and he ran slicks too didn't he? If you're a person like me who doesn't care how long it takes and you actually enjoy working on the car I'd go with the VI. Although unproven still, it seems like they are both pretty much equal.
I ran a 14.6 before and the change was drag radials and 00 VI and jwt ecu. And my VI was set at 4700 try that with a MEVI and see what you get

Also im running rich and tuned with the e-manage i probably would run 2-3 tenths better. But ill never know because the cars going under the knife soon new 01 tranny ,2000 engine ,Jim wolf cams with Ti valves lighter retainers better springs and e-manage tuning all at once. And maybe 8500 redline
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 05:17 PM
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Anther thing is that people dont relize is it is not possible for the 00 VI and MEVI to be equel because even if there designed the same power wise which there not because a nissan engineer says this VI on the 00 increases low end torqe over the 99 max also the fact that it has plastic makeup and not aluminum gives it better thermal effiecenty which gives more power right there.
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by krismax
I ran a 14.6 before and the change was drag radials and 00 VI and jwt ecu. And my VI was set at 4700 try that with a MEVI and see what you get

Also im running rich and tuned with the e-manage i probably would run 2-3 tenths better. But ill never know because the cars going under the knife soon new 01 tranny ,2000 engine ,Jim wolf cams with Ti valves lighter retainers better springs and e-manage tuning all at once. And maybe 8500 redline

Hmmm....so your sig says 13.8 on street tires, but you did it on drag radials? That is not the same as street tires.
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 04:51 AM
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Hmmm....so your sig says 13.8 on street tires, but you did it on drag radials? That is not the same as street tires.
I drive them back and forth to work ,there street legal radials.

I dont swap tires for the track never will ,the way i race is the way i drive around on the street.

Also why does all the street tire records i see use the tire im using maybe you should tell them its not a street tire

I dont understand all the 00 VI haters ,this has changed my atitude on this site.
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 05:09 AM
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I think retrofitting the 2000VI is awesome and if I didnt already have the VI (or perhaps I will even though I do already have the MEVI, when I have extra money after I finish my turbo project) I would probably try it.

Don't let doubters discourage you. I bet in a year or two the 2000VI will be just as common, or close to as common, as the MEVI is now.
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 05:14 AM
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krismax i think its awesome too but i couldnt mount a toothbrush holder under the hood much less do some serious modding like this, lol !
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 05:20 AM
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They where talking about how the MEVI wasnt a true VI in another thread cause of blah blah reason, Anyways, I think the 00vi would work best since its comming from another maxima, and that maxima has like 32 more hp at the crank,

O by the way the Stroker Hybrid VQ I think had its displacment at 3.8 liters

Doesnt the frontier have a VQ40, why doesnt someone combine all 3 motors, hehehe
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by krismax
I drive them back and forth to work ,there street legal radials.

I dont swap tires for the track never will ,the way i race is the way i drive around on the street.

Also why does all the street tire records i see use the tire im using maybe you should tell them its not a street tire

I dont understand all the 00 VI haters ,this has changed my atitude on this site.
How is anyone hating on the 2K VI??????? I have not seen one post in this thread that said anyting bad about it. So everyone has to praise the VI or they are haters... Geez, a bit touchy aren't we.

I think it's awesome what you did. That has nothing to do with asking about your drag radials.
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I think he meant the post that said the 2k manifold was a waiste of time.
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Ni_Nos_Maxima
They where talking about how the MEVI wasnt a true VI in another thread cause of blah blah reason, Anyways, I think the 00vi would work best since its comming from another maxima, and that maxima has like 32 more hp at the crank,

O by the way the Stroker Hybrid VQ I think had its displacment at 3.8 liters

Doesnt the frontier have a VQ40, why doesnt someone combine all 3 motors, hehehe

And what do you think the MEVI comes from?
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 07:41 AM
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Mike just ignore him.
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by slammed95
Go with the 4th gen VI. The 2k manifold is a waste of time.

how do you know its a waste of time? you have one installed to prove to us its not worth it .




People post your opinion if you have done the modification to your car. If you have the mod please share some insight. If your just bored and want to type BS dont do it. By saying its a waste of time and effort your offending the man indirectly. The 2000VI is just as good as the MEVI. Works the same way except is upside down etc...I have not seen a dyno of this manifold but would not mind seen one.

Krismax, good job making that manifold and injectors fit etc...Mad props to you.
Old Jul 13, 2004 | 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by IwANnAMaX96
For everybody planning to do the 2000 VI be prepared to buy an E-manage or such to control the DE-K injectors.


I've seen Krismax's car run and the idle is querky. It idles fine then it goes into a low idle with noticable vibration (running rich).
Old Jul 13, 2004 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by deezo


I've seen Krismax's car run and the idle is querky. It idles fine then it goes into a low idle with noticable vibration (running rich).


I want to see krismax's car running querky as well.
we should try to have a mod install NE meet.
we would all gett all the parts we want to install together. show the list on the tread, and meet up for a day or two.
something of a 100- 200 miles radius.
then I will bring my MEVI (if get it ) and everyone can install it for me.

I would go with the MEVI bacuse as said before alot more people have dopne it, and there is alot more help around.
the 2000VI seams to be the best bet, (new engine) and and the posiblility to get alot more power out of the engine if more moddds are done to it. (Ex. exaust, intake, turbo) basicaly... any mod that you can do to a normal 95-99 maxima.

best of all you get to keep the 95-99 looks, over the 00+
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