question about jacking car up

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Mar 26, 2005 | 06:39 PM
  #1  
Prob a dumb question to you guys, but how do i go about jacking the car up with a floorjack style jack? The jacking points appear to have a thin metal "band" projecting down from under the chassis that prevents me from using a floorjack-style jack without bending this "band". Likewise, how would i position the jackstands in relation to this thin metal band?
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Mar 26, 2005 | 09:17 PM
  #2  
You need an adapter to use the unibody jack points with a floor jack.
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Mar 26, 2005 | 09:24 PM
  #3  
A small block of wood works good too.
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Mar 27, 2005 | 05:28 AM
  #4  
so would you put the block of wood at the jackpoint, but inside of the metal band (closer to the center of the car)?

And how do i orient the top part of the jackstands that look like this: Y ?

Thanks.
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Mar 27, 2005 | 06:10 AM
  #5  
Here's a website I found with some pics, though it's a Mazda not Maxima and RWD:

http://www.techguys.ca/howto/floor_jack.html

I jack the rear from the ovals that are convex and I think in front of the rear wheel wells (from memory).

The problem is that with a $20-$50 floor jack, we do not have the reach that a pro would have with a $300-$600 floor jack, like you see at the tire shops.

On the front, I lift from underneath the ball joint on the lower control arm (if that is wrong, I have been doing it for a while with no negative results. But again, if it's a bad spot I am only saying what has worked for me, because I did bend one of those channels for the scissor jack using a floor jack).

Here's another pic of a Boxster--again, look at the size of the jack. Mine's not even close to that...

http://www.iq.dynip.com/~gary/hacks/jack/jack.html
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Mar 27, 2005 | 06:16 AM
  #6  
Positioning the jackstand in this way looks like it would bend the metal channel easily though. Is this how all you guys support the max? :

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Mar 27, 2005 | 07:16 AM
  #7  
thats how i do mines, just make sure it doesnt move or it will bend
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Mar 27, 2005 | 07:24 AM
  #8  
ok so last question - if you use the factory scissor-type jack to raise the car, how can you put the jackstands in place if the scissor-jack is already taking up the jackpoint ?
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Mar 27, 2005 | 02:30 PM
  #9  
Quote: ok so last question - if you use the factory scissor-type jack to raise the car, how can you put the jackstands in place if the scissor-jack is already taking up the jackpoint ?
The scissor jack was not designed for that, it was designed for changing the tire. It has such a small footprint I would not recommend using it for anything more than what it was designed for.

Since Sears Craftsman sells floor jacks for $20, imho everyone should invest in one for safety's sake.
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Mar 27, 2005 | 03:19 PM
  #10  
When I changed my tranny oil, I jacked the car up using a metal crossmember in the front, that comes to a sort of square point...Sorry that's not very descriptive.
When I set the jack stands under the car, I positioned them under the "towing" loops - they looked pretty secure. Was this safe??
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Mar 27, 2005 | 03:45 PM
  #11  
i've bent the **** outta my bands, is this bad? i didnt think so.
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Mar 27, 2005 | 04:18 PM
  #12  
Quote: When I changed my tranny oil, I jacked the car up using a metal crossmember in the front, that comes to a sort of square point...Sorry that's not very descriptive.
When I set the jack stands under the car, I positioned them under the "towing" loops - they looked pretty secure. Was this safe??
I think i know which part of the crossmember you mean - it's the intersection of the " T " where there are some bolts, right? I was thinking of using this as a jackpoint as well. What jackpoint do you use to lift the rear of car up? I didn't realize how confusing just jacking up the car could be!
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Mar 27, 2005 | 04:20 PM
  #13  
i use the pinch welds at the front and rear near the bands but not the bands.....i just put a block of wood on the jack....or use the "frame rail" at the front.....and shackle at the rear
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Mar 27, 2005 | 04:22 PM
  #14  
Quote: i use the pinch welds at the front and rear near the bands but not the bands.....i just put a block of wood on the jack....or use the "frame rail" at the front.....and shackle at the rear
what's the "shackle" at the rear?
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Mar 27, 2005 | 07:23 PM
  #15  
... what about the rear axle as a jackpoint, or is this a bad idea?
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Mar 27, 2005 | 07:27 PM
  #16  
well its not really a shackle....its the lower pivot/control arm for the rear suspension on the rear wheels....just before the wheels.......as far as the rear axle....to hard to get a jack in and pump without hitting the bumper.,,,
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Mar 27, 2005 | 07:28 PM
  #17  
Quote: ... what about the rear axle as a jackpoint, or is this a bad idea?
If you have a jack the size of the ones at the tire shop it's fine. As I've said before, a typical jack that costs $50 doesn't have the reach, the majority of your handle is gonna be under the car, which makes for a lot of strokes to get the jack to lift.
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Mar 28, 2005 | 10:22 AM
  #18  
Ok, so I found a "bump" near the front of the car, that follows a longitudinal piece of metal. I am guessing this is all part of the crossmember support? Is this "bump" an ok jackpoint?

And i still have no idea where i can find a jackpoint in the rear, other than the 2 tow hooks near the bumper. I would appreciate your help.
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Mar 28, 2005 | 10:41 AM
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Mar 28, 2005 | 11:20 AM
  #20  
cool a diagram for jacking up the car
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Mar 28, 2005 | 06:23 PM
  #21  
That diagram is da bomb. Thanks so much for it, it has cleared up all my questions!
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