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Old Mar 26, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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question about jacking car up

Prob a dumb question to you guys, but how do i go about jacking the car up with a floorjack style jack? The jacking points appear to have a thin metal "band" projecting down from under the chassis that prevents me from using a floorjack-style jack without bending this "band". Likewise, how would i position the jackstands in relation to this thin metal band?
Old Mar 26, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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You need an adapter to use the unibody jack points with a floor jack.
Old Mar 26, 2005 | 09:24 PM
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A small block of wood works good too.
Old Mar 27, 2005 | 05:28 AM
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so would you put the block of wood at the jackpoint, but inside of the metal band (closer to the center of the car)?

And how do i orient the top part of the jackstands that look like this: Y ?

Thanks.
Old Mar 27, 2005 | 06:10 AM
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Here's a website I found with some pics, though it's a Mazda not Maxima and RWD:

http://www.techguys.ca/howto/floor_jack.html

I jack the rear from the ovals that are convex and I think in front of the rear wheel wells (from memory).

The problem is that with a $20-$50 floor jack, we do not have the reach that a pro would have with a $300-$600 floor jack, like you see at the tire shops.

On the front, I lift from underneath the ball joint on the lower control arm (if that is wrong, I have been doing it for a while with no negative results. But again, if it's a bad spot I am only saying what has worked for me, because I did bend one of those channels for the scissor jack using a floor jack).

Here's another pic of a Boxster--again, look at the size of the jack. Mine's not even close to that...

http://www.iq.dynip.com/~gary/hacks/jack/jack.html
Old Mar 27, 2005 | 06:16 AM
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Positioning the jackstand in this way looks like it would bend the metal channel easily though. Is this how all you guys support the max? :

Old Mar 27, 2005 | 07:16 AM
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thats how i do mines, just make sure it doesnt move or it will bend
Old Mar 27, 2005 | 07:24 AM
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ok so last question - if you use the factory scissor-type jack to raise the car, how can you put the jackstands in place if the scissor-jack is already taking up the jackpoint ?
Old Mar 27, 2005 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ne max
ok so last question - if you use the factory scissor-type jack to raise the car, how can you put the jackstands in place if the scissor-jack is already taking up the jackpoint ?
The scissor jack was not designed for that, it was designed for changing the tire. It has such a small footprint I would not recommend using it for anything more than what it was designed for.

Since Sears Craftsman sells floor jacks for $20, imho everyone should invest in one for safety's sake.
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When I changed my tranny oil, I jacked the car up using a metal crossmember in the front, that comes to a sort of square point...Sorry that's not very descriptive.
When I set the jack stands under the car, I positioned them under the "towing" loops - they looked pretty secure. Was this safe??
Old Mar 27, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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i've bent the **** outta my bands, is this bad? i didnt think so.
Old Mar 27, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BigLou93SE
When I changed my tranny oil, I jacked the car up using a metal crossmember in the front, that comes to a sort of square point...Sorry that's not very descriptive.
When I set the jack stands under the car, I positioned them under the "towing" loops - they looked pretty secure. Was this safe??
I think i know which part of the crossmember you mean - it's the intersection of the " T " where there are some bolts, right? I was thinking of using this as a jackpoint as well. What jackpoint do you use to lift the rear of car up? I didn't realize how confusing just jacking up the car could be!
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i use the pinch welds at the front and rear near the bands but not the bands.....i just put a block of wood on the jack....or use the "frame rail" at the front.....and shackle at the rear
Old Mar 27, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MaximaSE96
i use the pinch welds at the front and rear near the bands but not the bands.....i just put a block of wood on the jack....or use the "frame rail" at the front.....and shackle at the rear
what's the "shackle" at the rear?
Old Mar 27, 2005 | 07:23 PM
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... what about the rear axle as a jackpoint, or is this a bad idea?
Old Mar 27, 2005 | 07:27 PM
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well its not really a shackle....its the lower pivot/control arm for the rear suspension on the rear wheels....just before the wheels.......as far as the rear axle....to hard to get a jack in and pump without hitting the bumper.,,,
Old Mar 27, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ne max
... what about the rear axle as a jackpoint, or is this a bad idea?
If you have a jack the size of the ones at the tire shop it's fine. As I've said before, a typical jack that costs $50 doesn't have the reach, the majority of your handle is gonna be under the car, which makes for a lot of strokes to get the jack to lift.
Old Mar 28, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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Ok, so I found a "bump" near the front of the car, that follows a longitudinal piece of metal. I am guessing this is all part of the crossmember support? Is this "bump" an ok jackpoint?

And i still have no idea where i can find a jackpoint in the rear, other than the 2 tow hooks near the bumper. I would appreciate your help.
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 11:20 AM
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cool a diagram for jacking up the car
Old Mar 28, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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That diagram is da bomb. Thanks so much for it, it has cleared up all my questions!
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