Intake?!??
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Intake?!??
i just bought a new 99 max and i have been reading the forums about all of the aftermarket intakes and was wondering if there was an intake out there that dosent make u loose the low end that u want or one that is worth loosing a little bit of the low end??
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Originally Posted by 96nismomaxi
i just bought a new 99 max and i have been reading the forums about all of the aftermarket intakes and was wondering if there was an intake out there that dosent make u loose the low end that u want or one that is worth loosing a little bit of the low end??
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1) No you have not been reading the forums...this thread proves that.
2) Yup, you're in luck. Its called the stock airbox AND its already installed in your car and ready to go!!!! Get a K&N drop in filter and call it a day.
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And im personally offended with your Honda signature, hehe, but ill let it slide.
If you are willing to go through the hassle of making a heat shield, you will gain throaty sound with no expense to throttle response or low end torque. However, an intake during the humid summer days is a curse above all others. You will laugh, you will cry, you will kick yourself in the head for even considering it. During hot and cold days the performance of my car felt like a good 30hp difference.
If you are willing to go through the hassle of making a heat shield, you will gain throaty sound with no expense to throttle response or low end torque. However, an intake during the humid summer days is a curse above all others. You will laugh, you will cry, you will kick yourself in the head for even considering it. During hot and cold days the performance of my car felt like a good 30hp difference.
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Originally Posted by devilz05
And im personally offended with your Honda signature, hehe, but ill let it slide.
If you are willing to go through the hassle of making a heat shield, you will gain throaty sound with no expense to throttle response or low end torque. However, an intake during the humid summer days is a curse above all others. You will laugh, you will cry, you will kick yourself in the head for even considering it. During hot and cold days the performance of my car felt like a good 30hp difference.
If you are willing to go through the hassle of making a heat shield, you will gain throaty sound with no expense to throttle response or low end torque. However, an intake during the humid summer days is a curse above all others. You will laugh, you will cry, you will kick yourself in the head for even considering it. During hot and cold days the performance of my car felt like a good 30hp difference.
i have a hacked airbox, but i've heard the PR CAI and stock resonator work pretty well.
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Originally Posted by tavarish
your knock sensor is bad, or you got an injen.
i have a hacked airbox, but i've heard the PR CAI and stock resonator work pretty well.
i have a hacked airbox, but i've heard the PR CAI and stock resonator work pretty well.
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Originally Posted by devilz05
I was referring to my civic, sorry. Lot less torque to go 'round, lol.
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Originally Posted by tavarish
wow, i would hate to have a 30hp loss on a civic, it would be tough to get up a hill.
:-D
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Maxima Intakes Explained
By Dave B of Maxima.org (not the parts guy)
1) The Frankencar Intake is just like the Stillen/JWT "POP"-style intakes except that the Frankencar/Berk intakes comes with a midpipe that replaces the OEM resonator that sits inbetween MAF sensor and throttle body. The Frankencar/Berk intakes have gotten the nickname "hybrid". A Stillen/JWT or any other POP setup can be converted to a hybrid by simply adding a midpipe. There is nothing remotely special about a Frankencar intake. Nothing.
2) A midpipe has yet to be documented to make any power gains, but it does introduce quite a bit more intake noise and a generally deeper sound. Most owners tend to like this induction noise under 1/2 to full throttle. The sound emmulates the sound of an Acura NSX.
3) The Injen intake is not a CAI. It pulls air from the drivers side front portion of the car just to the side of the raditor. IMO, this is probably the worst place to be drawing air. Also, the Injen piping is routed close to very hot engine components (manifold, head, block, tranny) which will heat soak the nice shiny intake piping.
4) The Cattman/Place Racing/Warpspeed CAIs are the only true CAIs on the market. These setups pull air from an area that is sealed off from the engine bay. These intakes pull in ambient air. These intake require cutting a 3.2" diameter hole near the battery to route the piping. Many owners are afraid to cut into their car for fear of resale problems. The truth is a good cut is not noticable because the hole sits in a location that is shielded by the battery and wiring harnesses.
5) The hacked airbox is when you cut out the lower airbox to bring in more air. This results in more sound, POP intake power, and the introduction of hot engine bay air.
6) The POP/hybrid/hacked airbox intakes are assumed to make better upper rpm power at the expense of lower rpm power. "Boggy" throttle response, especially in hot weather is common with these intakes. The lack of throttle response is most likely due to removing the pressurization effects of the stock intake tract and drawing in hot engine bay air.
7) The CAI intakes are assumed to make better lowend and mid rpm power. The CAI intakes don't seem to suffer from the "bogginess" problems because of the 14" longer intake tract which is able to store a column of air and in a sense keep the air pressurized, less turbulent, and cooler.
8) Dynos and track results have proven that all the intake setups POP/hybrid/Injen/CAI/hacked all perform basically the same assuming the air outside is cold and the engine is cooled off.
9) Hybrid/POP/hacked/Injen intakes pull in underhood air therefore in the summer these intakes can be drawing in air that's over 140 degrees. A CAI will be pulling in ambient air. It has been shown that the engine bay air cools down to near ambient once the car is moving at 30mph+ for a few minutes. The problem is the temp sensor and knock sensor typically will detect the extremely hot air coming in therefore from a stop the car's acceleration can feel weak in 1st gear. At the track this can cause a much slower 330' if the engine is not cooled.
10) In the end it comes down with what you're will to pay and what kind of driveability you want.
By Dave B of Maxima.org (not the parts guy)
1) The Frankencar Intake is just like the Stillen/JWT "POP"-style intakes except that the Frankencar/Berk intakes comes with a midpipe that replaces the OEM resonator that sits inbetween MAF sensor and throttle body. The Frankencar/Berk intakes have gotten the nickname "hybrid". A Stillen/JWT or any other POP setup can be converted to a hybrid by simply adding a midpipe. There is nothing remotely special about a Frankencar intake. Nothing.
2) A midpipe has yet to be documented to make any power gains, but it does introduce quite a bit more intake noise and a generally deeper sound. Most owners tend to like this induction noise under 1/2 to full throttle. The sound emmulates the sound of an Acura NSX.
3) The Injen intake is not a CAI. It pulls air from the drivers side front portion of the car just to the side of the raditor. IMO, this is probably the worst place to be drawing air. Also, the Injen piping is routed close to very hot engine components (manifold, head, block, tranny) which will heat soak the nice shiny intake piping.
4) The Cattman/Place Racing/Warpspeed CAIs are the only true CAIs on the market. These setups pull air from an area that is sealed off from the engine bay. These intakes pull in ambient air. These intake require cutting a 3.2" diameter hole near the battery to route the piping. Many owners are afraid to cut into their car for fear of resale problems. The truth is a good cut is not noticable because the hole sits in a location that is shielded by the battery and wiring harnesses.
5) The hacked airbox is when you cut out the lower airbox to bring in more air. This results in more sound, POP intake power, and the introduction of hot engine bay air.
6) The POP/hybrid/hacked airbox intakes are assumed to make better upper rpm power at the expense of lower rpm power. "Boggy" throttle response, especially in hot weather is common with these intakes. The lack of throttle response is most likely due to removing the pressurization effects of the stock intake tract and drawing in hot engine bay air.
7) The CAI intakes are assumed to make better lowend and mid rpm power. The CAI intakes don't seem to suffer from the "bogginess" problems because of the 14" longer intake tract which is able to store a column of air and in a sense keep the air pressurized, less turbulent, and cooler.
8) Dynos and track results have proven that all the intake setups POP/hybrid/Injen/CAI/hacked all perform basically the same assuming the air outside is cold and the engine is cooled off.
9) Hybrid/POP/hacked/Injen intakes pull in underhood air therefore in the summer these intakes can be drawing in air that's over 140 degrees. A CAI will be pulling in ambient air. It has been shown that the engine bay air cools down to near ambient once the car is moving at 30mph+ for a few minutes. The problem is the temp sensor and knock sensor typically will detect the extremely hot air coming in therefore from a stop the car's acceleration can feel weak in 1st gear. At the track this can cause a much slower 330' if the engine is not cooled.
10) In the end it comes down with what you're will to pay and what kind of driveability you want.
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