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Old 06-16-2007 | 09:59 PM
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Injen Intake -- not so bad afterall

Well, i was a disbeliever at first, i didnt think the injen was as bad as everyone made it sound, at the time when i got it, i just wanted sound, and damn did it provide that. Well after a accel run today, i noticed the car had been pinging a bit lately, cuz of hotter weather, i was really dissapointed in the acceleration in the car, also when the car had been running for awhile, if i touched the piping, it was HOT. It looks nice, but its such a bad design. So i had some free time and was going to put in my stock intake and sacrifice the sound.

Well i was looking at my injen, and i noticed right after the maf, theres a small section abotu 2" long, so i took off the pipe, and put the cone filter right on that, its like a cone adapter for the maf, except i have a really expensive one haha.

Well, im using the factory resonator thing, and rubber accordian piping, pretty much its all factory till the maf, then i got the injen maf adapter thing and the filter.

Took it for my first drive, and instantly i noticed it had more low end, after i did some second gear pulls, and damn it pulls ALOT harder. Before with hte injen, i could chirp second pretty good, now it just spins when i go into second . it pulls harder over hte whole rpm band it feels.

The sound, is more mellow, actually i kinda like it better, it was such a harsh noise at around 6000+, this it sounds more modern/refined.

The reason why im happy, not that i wasted 350$ on a useless wanna be cai, is that i could reuse my injen, because i planned on buying a jwt pop. If you guys who have injens would like to switch, i can post up some pics, its pretty ugly, but its the same as any other stock mid pipe, and cone filter.

Sorry for making such a long reply, im just amazed at how much of a diff, intake made.
Old 06-17-2007 | 08:30 AM
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nice write up. ive seen a few people around the board doing that, but since you went from the injen to a pop, would it have had the same pull if you put back the OE filter box and all? just curious... and by the way i saw you put a flywheel and UDP on your car. how is that working out? i was thinking of going that same route in a couple of months. thanks
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Good man, i have the fidanza, which i would recommend, because its not too light. The unorthodox flywheel i think is too light for street driving, and might cause you to bog off the line for awhile till you get use to it. With the UDP and flywheel, i notice the car revs ALOT faster, so id recommend it.

Yeah it probably wouldnt pull as good, if your running an oem filter, but throw on a cone filter, or a k&n filter and your good to go.
Old 06-17-2007 | 11:47 AM
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Does the cone sit behind the battery or next to it near the radiator fans?
Old 06-17-2007 | 12:10 PM
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sorry to burst your bubble but you coulda done this from the begining by doing a short ram intake. all you needed was an intake tube from autozone for 10 bux.
Old 06-17-2007 | 01:04 PM
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So, any usable data from this?
Old 06-17-2007 | 04:43 PM
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lol I would sell the whole unit and do what VIP said. Or just get a cheap eBay one.
Old 06-17-2007 | 04:54 PM
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what would be a decent intake i could install on a 96 maxima?
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well i bought the intake awhile ago VIP. At the time as i previously stated..performance wasnt my main reason why i was buying the intake sound was. But my goals for the car have changed since then. That is why i stated, previously that this worked out good, because i planned on buying another intake (JWT pop charger), but now i dont need to because i just turned my injen into a pretty much jwt pop charger.

Best intake for the maxima, is stock intake with a k&N filter, or if you want more sound, the jwt/stillen pop charger.

should also note..my filter sits behind hte battery, i also hooked up the stock intake snorkel to get some more cooler air to the filter.
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yeah i have been researching a grip before i buy anything and end up regretting it later. yeah i was just looking at the jwt pop charger and was thinking about getting it.
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you know when i had the injen intake my car pinged as well, doesnt do it with frankencar mid? anyways nice work!
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yeah i have been researching a grip before i buy anything and end up regretting it later. yeah i was just looking at the jwt pop charger and was thinking about getting it.
Hey your in Tucson!
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Originally Posted by Ceasars Chariot
you know when i had the injen intake my car pinged as well, doesnt do it with frankencar mid? anyways nice work!

Yeah, it never did it before but then again this would have been its first summer. once it started to get hot, i noticed it more and more, especially on take off. Also i never realized how much it hurt my top end, the car feels like it pulls so much better in the high rpm despite the USIM.

One thing ill miss was the look of it, really made the engine bay look cleaner, cuz the setup i have now isnt the most appealing to the eye but hey it works much better then my injen, and thats all i care about.
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Dyno chart or ban.
Old 06-18-2007 | 08:53 AM
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Also, doesn't that mean it just doesn't suck any more. Not that you made any gain?
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Well its already been proven that the stock intake is the best. I dont really see why you need dyno proof. There were pretty significant mid range gains over the fraken car mid pipe, and that is still way better then the injen design. And my butt dyno says it helped..so to be honest with you, im happy. I KNOW it made a difference, my butt dyno is pretty insensitive, and i even noticed a diff, along with my father who didnt even know i changed it. These were his exact words "what did you do to the car this time...it feels alot quicker"

Now im not too sure if this has any effect on it, but would the reason why a CAI would hurt top end, is because it just adds to the intake tract, i know the runners on the USIM are already long, and the injen probably adds another foot of piping..give or take. Not sure if it makes a diff because its before the TB.

Not sure if you seen it, but Zack342 posted up some dynos
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ght=FRANKENCAR

Also post 39# from deezo

Do the research before you guys even buy the CAI. The HP drop is rediculous in high RPM ranges, much worse than the midpipe.
Old 06-18-2007 | 05:38 PM
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Yeah man been in Tucson for 3 years and just bought me a 96 Maxima Gxe. I want to make it badass and show off to all my friends who have hondas but im new to all this car business.
Old 06-18-2007 | 07:16 PM
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I would liken you describing what you "felt" and making a thread to me driving with less gas and my tank and noting the difference I felt.

If this information was known, what is the thread about?
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Actually if there was any less gas in the tank, it would have been very minor...actually probably more because i put in 10$ of gas the day i changed the intake.

So ill sum it up here.


I guess Fr33way is right. That night it was cooler then when i had made the previous runs with the injen, BUT ive also had it on for 2 days now, and i still notice a difference. I dont know if your trying to defend the injen, everyone knows its a bad design. I could see if it was a PRCAI, thats different, but still in that case id keep the stock resonator, and then use the CAI tubing after the maf. Best of both worlds, cooler air and still able to use the resonator.

Got any more questions for me?

Im not dynoing the car, to prove something i already know. If you lived near me, id let you drive the car with the injen, then drive it with the pop charger. and TRUST ME you would notice a huge difference.
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Read my user title.
What do I have to do to join this club? I'm a believer in the stock intake system with a K&N Drop-in.
Old 06-21-2007 | 11:44 PM
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I bought that K&N filter and wasn't satisfied, so I bought the Stillen Intake.
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I bought that K&N filter and wasn't satisfied, so I bought the Stillen Intake.
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Old 06-22-2007 | 06:21 PM
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what i did was throw on a maf adapter and cone filter, then bought some dryer(what u dry your clothes in) ventillation tubing(Wal-Mart) for like $7 bucks and bent it to shape, from under the right side of the rad come up to the filter,(behind the battery). Anyone else try this yet?
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Originally Posted by vilmaxima
what i did was throw on a maf adapter and cone filter, then bought some dryer(what u dry your clothes in) ventillation tubing(Wal-Mart) for like $7 bucks and bent it to shape, from under the right side of the rad come up to the filter,(behind the battery). Anyone else try this yet?
Sounds like an OSCAI to me from 7 years ago + in the stickys.
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Oh yay, another intake thread. Maybe i'll get lazy and post links to them in hear and then lock this...

BTW stock midpipe > stock air box
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
BTW stock midpipe > stock air box
Stock airbox = moar timing. I wonder if the midpipe concept holds true for 00VI equipped A32's
Old 07-06-2007 | 11:25 PM
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Injen has better top end hp than a short ram??
but the short ram has better low to mid hp than the Injen??

now put a K&N air filter on the injen and wouldnt you have more low to mid as well as high?

Injen does have a pretty bad design but im curious of this
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