Well as some of you know i just did a tune up and my car feels great..I used CHampion Platinum spark plugs which were around $2.00 each...I plug them right in and my car runs great...the ngk stock i had in there were almost gone and dead...my car is way quicker in pickup now with the champions..has anyone else used them? I think they work great...=]

 

I always that these spark plugs work best with chrysler engines and i have stayed away from using them because Nissan engines works better with NGK's.

 

Greetings from Cleveland...Home of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame !
I just bought Champion Platinums $1.99 each. I have not installed them. The auto parts guy said for a GXE with no mods they will work fine. We will see. I will update this post in a few days.

 

a GXE with no mods is the same engine as a SE with no mods

any wooo.. see you guys in 60k miles

 

Champion plugs belong in your lawn mower.

 

Well, 10-20K miles from now you'll probably wish u put NGK's in...

 

I agree. Fine Machinery Deserves a Fine Part. Get OEM Plugs..you'll have to in 1500 miles with those plugs.

 

thats about the only thing i'd use em in

 

Don't put American plugs in a Japanese engine.
Don't put American plugs in a German engine.
Don't put German plugs in an American engine.
Don't put German plugs in a Japanese engine.
Don't put Japanese plugs in an American engine.
Don't put Japanese plugs in a German engine.

Got it?

Great!

lol...


If you have a Japanese engine, stick with Japanese plugs. If you have an American engine, stick with American plugs. German - german plugs too. The engines are designed for the timing/firing characteristics of the plugs that the specific country make. So if you mix/match engines and plug origins, your engine might not run correctly. So best to stick with Japanese plugs only on Japanese cars.

 

No they don't, I run a NGK plug in my mower. It came with an NGK plug in it when I bought it new from John Deere!

 

BMW specs NGK's for both my Dad's 98 528i and my aunts 99 328.

 

LMAO

So you are saying that a car company spends hundred of millions of dollars on R&D to develop an engine that works best with a couple dollar plug? I think you got that backwards....

 

Your John Deere doesn't have a Briggs and Stratton engine in it.

 

In that case don't put German plugs in a German engine since it was spec'ed for Japanese plugs

 

No.

I'm saying that *in general* Japanese companies specify Japanese plugs, which have different firing characteristics (timing delays, spark ramp, etc) than other plugs. So the engineer doing the ECU coding programs the ignition timing to work with the specified plug. About 5 minutes divided by his hourly rate.

If you use something else (different firing characterisitcs) the engine *might* not run properly.

 

No, it is a Kawasaki!

 

A Kawasaki engine in a John Deere? I'm shocked!?!?

 

It is the Commercial OHV 4 Cycle engine they put in the top of the line mowers. Starts on 1st pull every time, impressive engine. I run AMSOIL 0W-40 Synthetic in it.

 

guy likes to make an entrance

 

I put in the Champion Platinums last week. The car is running much better which is expected as the OEM plugs had 50k on them. As someone alluded to in a post...wait and see what happens. That is the key question, will I have to replace them in 10-20k miles ? Now I did the work myself so I only have my 2 hours time and $12 invested. There is a local repair shop which is very well run and regarded. It is owned two ex service managers for Honda and Toyota. They use Champion Platinums. I will have to check back in a year.
Rock on ! Visit the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Clevelend !

 

so whats the best japanese plug..if there is more than one?

 

only use NGK in your maxima

 

Interestingly enough a certain repair facility performed this test on the champion spark plugs yet, here is what he said:

Next, we took a 4 cylinder (22R) Toyota truck and installed four different sets of new spark plugs and ran the same test for each set of plugs. All were gapped exactly alike. The results are below:

Type of spark plug KV /electricity|Burn time in milli-seconds
------------------------------------------ |-------------------------
Champion Spark Plugs 1.38 | 1.9
AC Spark Plugs 1.72 | 1.7
Autolite Spark Plugs 1.90 | 1.7
NGK Spark Plugs 1.75 | 1.9

Again the Champions needed less electricity to create and maintain the burn and then they held the spark or flame as long as the NGK and longer than the other two.

I thought this was noteworthy do to the fact that the NGK were the original plugs for this make and model of the vehicle and it seems the champions outperformed the oem without compromise to engine performance.

Additionally when you look at subarus their OEM spark plugs are champion plugs which come from the factory and they seem to perform well for the vehicle

 

While I think that test is interesting. Many of the proponents of NGKs believe that reliability is the key issue. So if you tested both sets of plugs after 30,000 miles, how would they compare.

So far my car is running well. We have about 3,000 miles on the plugs.
Check out the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland ! You can visit the Rock Hall and then walk to Jacobs field to see an Indians game !

 

i believe for max ngk or denso are good...i just replace my plugs with oem ngk platinum ones when i had 50k and they work great..

 

You just brought back some memories... I miss my truck.

 

Awesome post, Tom! 100% agreement here!

 

For about 35 minutes. Till you realize that you need new plugs again. And for gosh sakes do not replace them with Bosch+4's.