Help. Can't get my Tranny out.
#1
Help. Can't get my Tranny out.
Ok so I picked up a Maxima today ![Big Grin](https://maxima.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Clutch was slipping so I ordered a clutch ahead of time and starting working on it today. I got everything done correctly except the TRANNY WON'T SEPARATE FROM THE ENGINE!!! What am I doing wrong? its separating a little but it feels like something is still attached to it holding it together towards the rear (firewall). I got all the tranny bolts out including the one that's impossible to do which is on the shift linkage.
sigh.
I'm all out of ideas and beat for the day. I'm going to give it another shot starting 2morrow but wow... just can't get it to come apart.
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Clutch was slipping so I ordered a clutch ahead of time and starting working on it today. I got everything done correctly except the TRANNY WON'T SEPARATE FROM THE ENGINE!!! What am I doing wrong? its separating a little but it feels like something is still attached to it holding it together towards the rear (firewall). I got all the tranny bolts out including the one that's impossible to do which is on the shift linkage.
sigh.
I'm all out of ideas and beat for the day. I'm going to give it another shot starting 2morrow but wow... just can't get it to come apart.
#2
Well, you either got all of the bolts or you didn't. If it isn't seperating from the engine, then you likely didn't. You can also try prying the trans away from the motor (it would be hard for you to break something with moderate pressure), it might just be the dowels sticking.
You do have the mount removed completely, right? Both axles out?
So you got all 10 bellhousing-block bolts? Including the one that's covered by the starter on the top? The one above the passenger side axle seal?
You do have the mount removed completely, right? Both axles out?
So you got all 10 bellhousing-block bolts? Including the one that's covered by the starter on the top? The one above the passenger side axle seal?
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#3
Make sure you unbolt the tranny mount..i completely unbolted it from the body and the tranny to make things easier. The shift linkage bolt is a PITA, but a offset box end wrench works wonders.
Most of the time its the mount that gets in the way, i just completely took it out and solves most of the problems. As previously stated, it has to be pulled out straight out away from the car, if its at any sort of angle, it wont come out without wrecking something.
Also another thing. Be careful re-installing it, dont let the weight of the tranny rest on the input shaft if you cant get it lined up initially. Ive seen pressure plate fingers bend and cause the clutch issues. More so on RWD tranny's but ive seen it on FWD configurations too!
P.S Quickly sand the mating surface on the block and tranny housing where it meets the block to avoid any starting issues down the road. Trust me on this, i forgot to when i did my engine, and i had to seperate my tranny again to sand it because i was having starter issues.
Most of the time its the mount that gets in the way, i just completely took it out and solves most of the problems. As previously stated, it has to be pulled out straight out away from the car, if its at any sort of angle, it wont come out without wrecking something.
Also another thing. Be careful re-installing it, dont let the weight of the tranny rest on the input shaft if you cant get it lined up initially. Ive seen pressure plate fingers bend and cause the clutch issues. More so on RWD tranny's but ive seen it on FWD configurations too!
P.S Quickly sand the mating surface on the block and tranny housing where it meets the block to avoid any starting issues down the road. Trust me on this, i forgot to when i did my engine, and i had to seperate my tranny again to sand it because i was having starter issues.
Last edited by 96blkonblkse; 01-18-2009 at 01:02 AM.
#4
Make sure you unbolt the tranny mount..i completely unbolted it from the body and the tranny to make things easier. The shift linkage bolt is a PITA, but a offset box end wrench works wonders.
Most of the time its the mount that gets in the way, i just completely took it out and solves most of the problems. As previously stated, it has to be pulled out straight out away from the car, if its at any sort of angle, it wont come out without wrecking something.
Also another thing. Be careful re-installing it, dont let the weight of the tranny rest on the input shaft if you cant get it lined up initially. Ive seen pressure plate fingers bend and cause the clutch issues. More so on RWD tranny's but ive seen it on FWD configurations too!
Most of the time its the mount that gets in the way, i just completely took it out and solves most of the problems. As previously stated, it has to be pulled out straight out away from the car, if its at any sort of angle, it wont come out without wrecking something.
Also another thing. Be careful re-installing it, dont let the weight of the tranny rest on the input shaft if you cant get it lined up initially. Ive seen pressure plate fingers bend and cause the clutch issues. More so on RWD tranny's but ive seen it on FWD configurations too!
Here's the ghettofab way I used when I installed my trans by myself:
I could've just lifted it up and placed it on the motor, but this is so much easier, especially for getting the input shaft splines lined up, and the dowels on the block lined up. No sitting there with your arms getting tired, able to stop and tend to something else at a moment's notice, etc. Ratchet strap and pry bar FTW.
Though it will go quicker with two people, especially the auto or the RS6F51H (both a bit heavier than the 5MT). One to basically bench press the trans from underneath, the other to help line it up and get a few bolts started. Doing it like that, Merlyn and I can get a trans up and fully bolted up in maybe 10 minutes.
And as 96blkonblkse you definitely want to clean up the mating surfaces, if you don't you'll be cursing yourself.
Last edited by pmohr; 01-18-2009 at 01:08 AM.
#6
That's pretty much all it is, either bolts or dowels.
#7
i just woke up... thanks for all the advice. I'm going to go at it again in a little.
Most of the write ups only show the drivers side axle being taken out. Does the passanger side have to come out as well?
Most of the write ups only show the drivers side axle being taken out. Does the passanger side have to come out as well?
#10
passenger side axle does not have to come out. some people think it's easier to take it out (easier to make sure you don't ruin the axle seal) but I've done it both ways. no you don't have to remove the y-pipe either, I've never removed it.
#11
#12
the 3 o clock position bolt... i can't get to it unless i remove the y-pipe is there a tool that i don't know about ...lol im out of ideas. help me maxspd
#14
really??? from the passanger side? ok ... time for that wheel to come off. Thanks Blackwind... I'll give that a shot.
*edit
wait from the passanger side wouldn't it be all engine from that side? or like you said ... i will still have a clear line of sight to that bolt? just double checking...
*edit
wait from the passanger side wouldn't it be all engine from that side? or like you said ... i will still have a clear line of sight to that bolt? just double checking...
Last edited by 97PKIMVQ; 01-18-2009 at 12:16 PM.
#16
really??? from the passanger side? ok ... time for that wheel to come off. Thanks Blackwind... I'll give that a shot.
*edit
wait from the passanger side wouldn't it be all engine from that side? or like you said ... i will still have a clear line of sight to that bolt? just double checking...
*edit
wait from the passanger side wouldn't it be all engine from that side? or like you said ... i will still have a clear line of sight to that bolt? just double checking...
#18
use a big *** prybar and give it hell... the worse thing thats gonna happen is the trans is gonna fall on you...
i got this thing down to a science.. i get my broski and he holds the top where starter hole is and i pry the crap out of the trans till it breaks free..
to install it i bench press the bish back in... as somebody starts one of the bolts..
i just did a jetta the same way 2 weeks ago..
i got this thing down to a science.. i get my broski and he holds the top where starter hole is and i pry the crap out of the trans till it breaks free..
to install it i bench press the bish back in... as somebody starts one of the bolts..
i just did a jetta the same way 2 weeks ago..
#19
Ok 1 AM IM DONE!!!!
Thank You all... I got the tranny out PAIN IN THE ***!!! The passanger side axle was stopping the tranny from dropping out but with a little bit of muscle it took care of that...
Installing the tranny... WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean WOOOWWWW!!!! took me like a good hour+ but after benchpressing the tranny it went ok...
After doing everything... sadly to say, I have a CEL! I didn't pull the code but I don't know why I got the CEL. I'm assuming its something to do with a sensor that wasn't plugged in correctly or something.
All in all... The job is not that hard... just very exhausting. Saved me about 300+ in labor so im satisfied.
Thanks everyone.
Thank You all... I got the tranny out PAIN IN THE ***!!! The passanger side axle was stopping the tranny from dropping out but with a little bit of muscle it took care of that...
Installing the tranny... WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean WOOOWWWW!!!! took me like a good hour+ but after benchpressing the tranny it went ok...
After doing everything... sadly to say, I have a CEL! I didn't pull the code but I don't know why I got the CEL. I'm assuming its something to do with a sensor that wasn't plugged in correctly or something.
All in all... The job is not that hard... just very exhausting. Saved me about 300+ in labor so im satisfied.
Thanks everyone.
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