I went trolling through the archives to see what people thought about the pop charger as I was not about to spend $200 on a CAI (I'm a cheap bastard). Most people were complaining about low end torque loss and I couldn't disagree more. Of course, I didn't remove the bottom half of the stock airbox (to allow for fresh air to come in from the scoop up front), but I notice no degredation in low end power whatsoever. First gear never impressed me much to begin with, but 2nd and 3rd have that nice growl I was looking for. Sounds stock with 1/4 throttle, but the second you get on it, it has that nice sound that makes you want to keep the car at 3/4 throttle more often <wink>. Anyway, anyone looking at the POP charger should go for it, I am one happy customer. I think I would suggest leaving the bottom half of the airbox on (never had it off, so I'm not sure, but it can't hurt.)

 

What do you mean by leaving the bottom half, the Intake is inside the factory box?

 

Yes. You just take out the top part of the stock box and let the bottom part support the POP. I put mine in yesterday. I think my MPG is going to go down alot as I cannot keep out of the gas.

 

The only reason your MPG is going down is because you're hitting that 3/4 throttle more often to hear the growl

 

The stock air box is removed. The stock air scoop and resonator can be left in.

As for low end loss, I think it is only the autos that are complaining... poor saps.

 

Resonator being the lower half of the air box? I'm car part stupid. Mechanically inclined - can do things if I see them, but the word resonator means nothing to me.

 

It becoming an addiction for me. Thank God I got an oil change Friday. I want to hear what it sounds like from the outside at 3/4.

 

i don't understand y a stick would not lose low end power... either way at a stop it is sucking in hot air so WHY!!

 

At idle your 100% correct in losing some low end. BUT I think it is made up in the high end. It's worth it just for the sound to me.

 

I had pop.

I am auto.

I felt the lag IMMEDIENTLY.

I loved the Growl.

I switched to CAI.

I felt the throttle response come back.

The sound absolutely blows away the pop-sound.

Pop sound = bum bum bum

CAI sound = ****ed off dragon/Racing sound (waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah)


IMO,

If you want a real intake, get a cold air intake.

 

 

y don't stick's feel lag

 

Not exactly. The lower air box stays and allows air to follow the stock path from the front scoop. Below the scoop, and before the lower air box, is a diversion into the resonator which reportedly decreases the sound--some have used this segment as a lower inlet for the OSCAI. CAI users often take out the stock intake in its entirety: scoop, resonator, complete air box, and stuff between MAF and throttle body.

 

Thats the mystery

 

well - its good to know that your happy with it..... i guess its cause u slightly modified the installation that u got those results???

 

CAI you pay $120 for $3 of pipe. I just do not get it. I know it is better than POP because of the fresh air. But $120

 

What the hell you talkin about ? That pipe cost's ALOT more than 3 bucks to make buddy.

 

Alright how much do you think they cost to produce? I agree more than $3. After R&D it is low cost. 1st Viagra pill probably cost 5 mil to make. After that $2.

 

The pipe is nicely finished and mandrel bent. You can't even get the clamps for $3. For what you get, it is a decent buy. Ever seen the $120 Addco RSB? steel bar: $10 , bolts/brackets: $5 , bushings: $5

And what exactly is a POP? Cone filter hooked up with a fi' dolla adapter...

 

No arguements from me. I'm just in the wrong business.

 

Which is the problem.

He's 5 spd... lot less lag with a 5 spd.

He's a pop charger lover... ain't nothing you say is gonna change that.

 

I'm just cheap But I like the sound. Hell it was free I got it for Christmas. Let me see another damn polo shirt or a PoP Charger