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Old 05-04-2002, 05:40 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: :o)

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Good to hear. I've been wondering what your car's going to do the 1/4 in with that thing on! Can't wait to find out. Good luck!
Unfortunately, the schedule on Pacificraceways.com is wrong, and there are no drags today!

There was about 10 people down there ****ed off because of it.

So I won't be able to do the 1/4 mile until this coming Friday.

PRPMax - Take pics of what if possible??

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PRPMax - Take pics of what if possible??

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your slips at the strip.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: :o)

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your slips at the strip.
I'll scan them, of course.

But it'll have to wait until Friday.

The problem is my speaker box, which is VERY securely bolted to my back seat and very heavy. It would take me all afternoon to remove it.

That and the fact that my Dyno shows my car is slower than it should be for some reason, tells me my times will probably suck.

But the difference between VI on and VI off should be interesting.

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I don't know if you've had a chance to try it, but how does the car feel at the top of 4th and 5th gear? I know I'm talking speeds in excess of 120 mph. Just wondering. You really feel the weakness there with the normal US 4th gen.

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Really, I kind of disagree with this statement. I find the 4th gen pulls pretty good til about 140. BTW I have a CAI and a 97 se auto with no VI
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Well this is interesting... no money for this mod, though. Maybe summer... (2nd group deal in July/August is what you said?)

Or maybe a gen5 VQ30DE swap would be more cost-effective. Hmm...
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Originally posted by brianw
Well this is interesting... no money for this mod, though. Maybe summer... (2nd group deal in July/August is what you said?)

Or maybe a gen5 VQ30DE swap would be more cost-effective. Hmm...

Try and find one. They are hard to get. I looked for a little while, the cost $500+, and that is just for the manifold... BUT they "should" fit.

Good luck. Keep us posted
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: :o)

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Really, I kind of disagree with this statement. I find the 4th gen pulls pretty good til about 140. BTW I have a CAI and a 97 se auto with no VI
Actually, I DID test it at 120+ on a deserted tunnel in Seattle
(I-90), where theres no shoulder for cops to hide on, with no traffic.

It pulls one hell of alot harder to me. But then again, that's only the 3rd time I've done that ever. I try to be good.

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Well, my VQ pulls faster b/c it's a 5 speed
Despite that, what you may be feeling is the different gearing. From 80 mph, I can use 3rd to 95 mph, 4th to 115-120 and then wind out in 5th. I reach 140, but accelereation from 130 to 140 is not the way it was from 80 to 120. I will reach 140 before you becuase you have to s t r e t c h 3rd gear all the way from 80 to 120 in your car and then switch to 4th to wind out. With that kind of gearing, the weakness of the VQ, loss of TQ above 5500, is probably masked soemwhat in the auto.

With the VI in a 5 speed, it prbably continue like gang busters all the way to 140 and beyond.

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Really, I kind of disagree with this statement. I find the 4th gen pulls pretty good til about 140. BTW I have a CAI and a 97 se auto with no VI
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Ok that just sealed the deal for me.. Now I REALLY want one.

Also Ian did you get make it out to the track?
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The track times posted up here are all screwed up, it was closed when he went... But I think he said he was gonna try again on Friday...

Originally posted by PRPmax
Ok that just sealed the deal for me.. Now I REALLY want one.

Also Ian did you get make it out to the track?
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Yeah, the Online Schedule for Pacific Raceways was wrong. I drove all the way out there to find out that the track was closed.

Trying again this Friday.

But the GD is closing tomorrow. So if you people want in, send me an E-Mail PRONTO!

I have also decided this will probably be the only GD I ever do. This is just too much hassle for me with no real return, except helping people out on the .org, which was my intention in the first place.

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Really appreciate what you have done. Also I do understand it being a hassel for you and all. But if this does indeed turn out to be your first and only group deal. Can you atleast post up where you made your orders from and what all was needed, for us folks that don't have the cash at this moment.

Thanks.
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Originally posted by PRPmax
Really appreciate what you have done. Also I do understand it being a hassel for you and all. But if this does indeed turn out to be your first and only group deal. Can you atleast post up where you made your orders from and what all was needed, for us folks that don't have the cash at this moment.

Thanks.


what he said , im in the same situation
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Come on Ian, one more this summer. That gives those who only work durring the summer a chance to get $$, our tax returns are back, us sceptical people get to see even more dynos, we get to watch reliability, etc., etc., etc. Either way, thanks for everything.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: :o)

Originally posted by dwapenyi
Well, my VQ pulls faster b/c it's a 5 speed
Despite that, what you may be feeling is the different gearing. From 80 mph, I can use 3rd to 95 mph, 4th to 115-120 and then wind out in 5th. I reach 140, but accelereation from 130 to 140 is not the way it was from 80 to 120. I will reach 140 before you becuase you have to s t r e t c h 3rd gear all the way from 80 to 120 in your car and then switch to 4th to wind out. With that kind of gearing, the weakness of the VQ, loss of TQ above 5500, is probably masked soemwhat in the auto.

With the VI in a 5 speed, it prbably continue like gang busters all the way to 140 and beyond.

DW

Your correct in saying your 5-speed will out accelerate my auto, however look again, 3rd will pull me to 130 MPH and then when I shift into 4th I am once again in my powerband.

Refer to this post for a pic/video of my all gear dyno pull http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....readid=117592\

The Auto will actually have more TOP SPEED than your 5 speed. I think neither of the 2 will pass 160 MPH on a road with out either NOS/SC/TURBO.

If you have ever done an all gear pull on a dyno, the power of the 4th gen VQ (auto or 5 SD) falls just like you said.

I am looking at this mod for more power at the end of each gear , THUS more power at the begining of the next gear which equals a faster car. With a larger power band.

BTW my auto let's me talk on the cell phone and drink mello yellow in rush hour

Oh and to keep this on topic thanks IanS
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Re: :o)

Originally posted by ptatohed
Come on Ian, one more this summer. That gives those who only work durring the summer a chance to get $$, our tax returns are back, us sceptical people get to see even more dynos, we get to watch reliability, etc., etc., etc. Either way, thanks for everything.
i agree...ill have the money by the end of summer, but i dont really have it now. as long as we can get another deal, i think everybody will be happy. if only i could get it now...
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It really all depends on interest and how well this GD goes.

I don't forsee any problems at all, but the guy in the ME is a pain to deal with because of the language barrier.

And if something does go wrong, I expect everyone will want a piece of me for things I have no control over. That would suck. I mean, what if the Cargo plane crashes? There's a small bit of risk in any venture.

In addition, I have this gut feeling he may have quoted me shipping wrong, (shipping per piece seems a little low ($110)) and I may have to raise the prices on the next GD, and may lose money on this one.

At least everything he sent me was in original Nissan boxes and all the invoices were on his company letterhead, so I know he's honest.
And of course, I know I'm honest.

So let's just see how much of a hassle this is for me.

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Re: Re: :o)

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i agree...ill have the money by the end of summer, but i dont really have it now. as long as we can get another deal, i think everybody will be happy. if only i could get it now...
Well, I will be running mine for a while until I don't find anybody interested in the piece anymore, and it isn't a group deal it is just an individual thing. So, once you get the money you can send it to me and I can order the parts for you. $500 shipped to your door, just for your info.

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Where are you receiving your parts from ? M.E. or Japan?
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Originally posted by PRPmax
Where are you receiving your parts from ? M.E. or Japan?
I'm getting mine from Japan. Got my VI in Sunday will be doing the install on thursday...and then running the dyno on Friday or Saturday. $500 for it shipped to your house but if you want the cover it will most likely be $45-50 dollars more...still waiting on the exact price on that. Will set up a GD to have the pricing differences, that will have all the info hopefully in the next 2-3 days, just waiting for my response from my supplier.

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Originally posted by Mr Cranman


but if you want the cover it will most likely be $45-50 dollars more...-John
what do you mean if i want the cover?
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Cover to go over the VI

Originally posted by PRPmax


what do you mean if i want the cover?
Just to make the Engine bay look cleaner. Hype had a survey that had the picture of it. This a link to that post.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....2&goto=newpost

This that is what would cost an extra 45-50 dollars or so.

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Re: Cover to go over the VI

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Just to make the Engine bay look cleaner. Hype had a survey that had the picture of it. This a link to that post.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....2&goto=newpost

This that is what would cost an extra 45-50 dollars or so.

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Mr Cranman should have his own thread on the subject with all of his information. Please look around for it....I forget what it's called.

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Yep...

Here is the page were I posted most of the info.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=116484

Once my supplier gets back to me which I'm expecting word on it tonight or tomorrow. I'll know the exact price for the VI cover.

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