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Old 09-01-2002, 07:28 PM
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Im calling BS on that slip.....that car is no way stock buddy. Look at the 60' times....1.9 which you are saying is on street tires. Also....a 13.5@100 mph YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME
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Old 09-01-2002, 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax


people just don't get it.. it doesn't matter if a 2k2 6spd is faster, nicer.. more comfortable than a 330CI.. its the whole experience of driving a BMW..
Finally someone mentioned this
Good to hear you're keeping the max. Unfortunately I didn't have an opportunity to keep mine.

By the way, being 6'5" tall and 230lbs I feel more comfortable in my 330ci than in a Maxima.
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Old 09-01-2002, 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by jcphamer
SkylineGTR and Max2000JP,



and max2000jp YOU ARE INSULTING AND ASSUMING THAT THESE GUYS DRIVE MINIVAN.... YOU THINK YOU DRIVE A BETTER CAR THEN THEM...??? GIVE ME A BREAK....THEY GET PAID FOR WHAT THEY DO... WHETHER THEY ARE GOOD OR NOT JUST DEPEND ON THE INDIVIDUAL...

Oh here is a research for you guys to do instead of thinking that you are a badass driver.... Go and see how much these editors and test drivers salaries are ... you will be suprised... you will most likely find they are all in the 6 figures or above... CAN YOU SAY YOU MAKE THE SAME... ???? THEY DONT DRIVE MINI VAN!!! DUH
Show me a website where I can find personal financial information and I will be happy to search for it. Oh wait they dont exist.

Editors DONT write the reviews or do they test drive the cars. Look at the names of the article and check them up with the editors names. I know that this is a fact for C&D. The test drivers DO NOT MAKE 6 figure salaries. And I think I read once that the editor of C&D drives a RAV4.

Stay on topic...You KNOW that you are wrong with the 330i, so why bring in the M3???
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Old 09-01-2002, 07:42 PM
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Originally posted by AndyXXL


Finally someone mentioned this
Good to hear you're keeping your max. Unfortunately I didn't have an opportunity to keep mine.
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Old 09-01-2002, 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by jcphamer

EVERYONE IN HERE SHOULD HAVE THE SAME RESPECT!!!! WHETHER YOU ARE A NEW MEMBER OR AN OLD...

skyline you posted the the drivers of these magazine dont know what they are driving....??? Do You think they are dumb as you....??? They are paid for their job..

and max2000jp YOU ARE INSULTING AND ASSUMING THAT THESE GUYS DRIVE MINIVAN.... YOU THINK YOU DRIVE A BETTER CAR THEN THEM...??? GIVE ME A BREAK....THEY GET PAID FOR WHAT THEY DO... WHETHER THEY ARE GOOD OR NOT JUST DEPEND ON THE INDIVIDUAL...
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jcp, don't take my posts as an insult to your intelligence but i feel i have the need to keep some (if not all) of the points put across in it's right place.

1) If you talk about respect, do so yourself. Respect is not given, it's earned. If you think you deserve the respect then don't go bowing down to a level which will bring you otherwise. As far as seniority goes, don't think that just because you were drinking breast milk 9 years before Max2000jp that it makes you a seniority. Additionally don't talk about Degree's and education when you, yourself, can't use a decent spell checker.

2) Working as a car tester in a magazine doesn't necessarily show that a person knows what they're doing. Each car has its own characteristics that even a trained professional couldn't master during the 1-2 week period manufacturers loan them the vehicle. Adding to the fact that they test several different vehicles in this period of time doesn't help the situation either.

Case in point: I have my own job, considered a professional at what i do, i'm paid well to do it and i specialize in it like no other person may have - yet i do not know everything about it. People look up to me but i'll be the first to admit that i'm not the master of my trade.

And yes, some of these guys own minivans themselves. In fact, two of the testers on Motorweek have minivan's of their own, And yes, they did attest to it on live public television a while back.

Now, can we all just get back to normal and give ThomBlaze2k2SE a decen thread to read about? Technically speaking, we're already thread-crapping.
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Old 09-01-2002, 07:53 PM
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I'm not even sure if i should believe you and your posts anymore. You yourself stated the following:

Originally posted by jcphamer

If you think that your 6 speed will beat my M3 e36 stock... bring it on... come here with your stock 6 speed and we will bet $$$$ ... I am up for that challenge....put your time slip away and we will see the real deal .. Make sure you bring alot of dough ...
Yet earlier on in the thread, you also mentioned this:

Originally posted by jcphamer
That is just a saying??? I haven't gone german... I love my jap MAX>
but i have test drive an M3 and a 330 and a 540. and they all are great cars...
I dont think i will go back to any other car onces i have gone German...
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Old 09-01-2002, 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by soundmike
I'm not even sure if i should believe you and your posts anymore. You yourself stated the following:



Yet earlier on in the thread, you also mentioned this:

Good find...You would make a good investigative reporter
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Old 09-01-2002, 08:07 PM
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Re: Time slip as you wish!!!!!

Originally posted by jcphamer
OH well here it is Skylinegtr and max2000jp... you should look b4 you talk out of your a**..

Stock M3 1/4 13.5... Read it and weap...

http://forum.dtmpower.net/showthread...ight=time+slip


2k2 6spd vs 330ci, M3? If you want to bring in other cars besides what the topic is about, why don't we all start talking about Ferraris or Porsches. I have run a few M3s 5spds, they were mostly stock, possible intakes and maybe catback but not much else, I have a 60shot, and i beat them, my car would probably trap in the high 90s, 98-99mph maybe, I beat them from a roll, so i don't see a stock US Spec M3 besides the newest model, trapping 100+ mph. And staying on topic, a 2002 Maxima 6spd will as long as the driver has a slight idea of how to drive, will beat a 330ci. How hard is it to admit that you were wrong about the 330, we have given you proof that the 2002 6spd runs faster than what your magazines have said, and we have plenty of people that can vouche for the people that have run those times, you have yet to prove a that a 330 NOT an M3 can run equivalent times as a 2002 6spd.
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Old 09-01-2002, 08:09 PM
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wait hold up.. that guy never said his m3 ran 13.5 stock .. here is what he said "Here's what I did in my brother's stock M3. "

who is to say his brother doesn't have an E46 M3? he was just comparing 1/8th times.. he never said what kind of m3 it was.. so that slip doesn't mean ****..
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Old 09-01-2002, 08:30 PM
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Originally posted by soundmike

Now, can we all just get back to normal and give ThomBlaze2k2SE a decen thread to read about? Technically speaking, we're already thread-crapping.
Heh, Soundmike, I just wish I had something of additional value to add to this thread at this point. I guess if the replies are a sampling of real world scenerios it would seem that a 330 v Max would be a close call depending on factors such as traction, driver, launch etc. I can accept that.

Regards,
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Old 09-01-2002, 09:07 PM
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My apologies if i have lied about the M3 being mine... it is my older brother... but of those who accused me that the mags are not right is wrong. yeah Maybe you can do better then them. but on average that is what it is...
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Old 09-01-2002, 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
wait hold up.. that guy never said his m3 ran 13.5 stock .. here is what he said "Here's what I did in my brother's stock M3. "

who is to say his brother doesn't have an E46 M3? he was just comparing 1/8th times.. he never said what kind of m3 it was.. so that slip doesn't mean ****..
No Sh&t....There was a E36 M3 at Rt 66 a few weeks ago with I/E/ECU and it was running 14.1-14.3@99 with 2.0-2.1 60' times. Nealoc187 and BriGuyMax witnessed it. No way is a stock E36 M3 running 13.5, I find this funny. It had to be a E46 M3, but the question is...Why are the traps so low????
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Old 09-02-2002, 12:08 AM
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Originally posted by MAX2000JP


As for taking a 330i in the turns, I have the ***** to say I can. You wanna know why? Most people cannot drive their cars properly and dont fully take advantage of the cars actual capabilities. My Maxima took out a E36 Manual Sedan on a road coarse. Was it because my Maxima was quicker in the turns, NO. Rather it was because the guy driving the M3 couldnt hit the apex if his life depended on it.
I agree with all. like I said, neither car will KILL the other ok? Your point agrees w/ mine. Maybe your really good at driving the 2k2, and a lot of m3, 330ci yuppies are too scared to push their cars to the limits. plus, there are probably more 2k2 max's out there for young kids, enthusiasts to play with, modify, etc...hence there exists more people on orgs who post extremely fast times for max's that prove car mags wrong and state that their cars can take on m3's, vettes, and who else knows what. The point is, yes, i am ready to believe that someone has beaten 330's each and every time theyve encountered one, but I am not ready to agree that only one person's possibly highly unusual experience with their car (i.e. 2k2max) will vouch for all 2k2 max's and 2k2 max drivers on the all roads all the time!!!
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Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
this thread sucks


I agree...
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Old 09-02-2002, 11:52 AM
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I raced my friends 330ix 5-speed and pulled on him pretty easily.

It is a great car though.

I love BMWs and MBs. I thinking of selling my car maybe soon and getting a used M3 sedan or used C43.

What do u guys think of those two cars?
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Old 09-02-2002, 12:58 PM
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E36 M3 are great, maybe not as good as their eurospec counterpart, but even the US one could be made hella fast, especially with all thats available to that car compared to the maxima. Iron block inline 6 you cant go wrong, hehe.
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Old 09-02-2002, 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by Dany
I raced my friends 330ix 5-speed and pulled on him pretty easily.

It is a great car though.

I love BMWs and MBs. I thinking of selling my car maybe soon and getting a used M3 sedan or used C43.

What do u guys think of those two cars?
What's up Dany. It's been a long time. I think I've met the guy with 330xi at Lena's b-day last May. He was there with Simon.
Anyway, go with E46 M3, it's a great car.
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Old 09-02-2002, 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by AndyXXL


What's up Dany. It's been a long time. I think I've met the guy with 330xi at Lena's b-day last May. He was there with Simon.
Anyway, go with E46 M3, it's a great car.
Since when did they start making a E46 M3 sedan
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Old 09-03-2002, 06:10 AM
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Originally posted by MAX2000JP


Since when did they start making a E46 M3 sedan
That was just my suggestion to him, since E46 M3 is far more superior than E36 M3. Also, BMW stopped producing M3 sedans in 97 (98 was the last model year) so it's going to be tough to find one in decent condition.
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