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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 05:32 AM
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Re: engine dyno

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i'm willing to dyno my car.only problem is i live in chicago area and would want done locally!
Thanks for offering, we'll let you know if we need you, don't think we will though
Old Feb 16, 2003 | 06:24 PM
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Dyno of 2k2 SE auto

I dyno'd my 2k2 last month, but it wasn't on a dynojet, it was on a dynodynamics. In 3rd gear (1:1 ratio), I only got 187 HP @ 4900rpm and 204 TQ @ 4400 rpm. If this can be any help, PM and I'll scan the print out of the graph and chart.
Old Feb 16, 2003 | 06:37 PM
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scan it and send the print out to steve (dmb2k2)....he knows what to do with it, but we are getting some very important stuff done in the upcoming 2 weeks, so just sit tight
Old Feb 23, 2003 | 12:21 PM
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has the judge spoken?

any updates?

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Old Feb 23, 2003 | 02:51 PM
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cant believe this is still going on believe me im a lawyer and there is no way that the end result with have u satisfied no matter how great u work at this face it u can't win nissan is a huge corporation and if u try to mess with them, they have plenty of ways to disprove u since u guys will not have any sufficient proof if u do they will not reward u with anything great anyways

PS: if u add 15 more hp, doesnt that mean 15 more of torque steer?
Old Feb 23, 2003 | 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by max...to the ma
cant believe this is still going on believe me im a lawyer and there is no way that the end result with have u satisfied no matter how great u work at this face it u can't win nissan is a huge corporation and if u try to mess with them, they have plenty of ways to disprove u since u guys will not have any sufficient proof if u do they will not reward u with anything great anyways

PS: if u add 15 more hp, doesnt that mean 15 more of torque steer?
I tried so hard not to post in this thread unless I had something positive to add but I'm so tired of reading posts like yours. My first impression is that your a Nissan mole trying to discourage someone from righting a very probable wrong. There is no way you are a lawyer otherwise you'd realize that civil actions, especially one against a very large corporation usually take a very long time.

My final comment is... WHAT THE HELL DO YOU CARE? Someone else is doing all the work and taking the risk. We all stand to benefit if they succeed. And if you're worried about torque steer go buy yourself a civic.
Old Feb 23, 2003 | 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by max...to the ma
cant believe this is still going on believe me im a lawyer and there is no way that the end result with have u satisfied no matter how great u work at this face it u can't win nissan is a huge corporation and if u try to mess with them, they have plenty of ways to disprove u since u guys will not have any sufficient proof if u do they will not reward u with anything great anyways

PS: if u add 15 more hp, doesnt that mean 15 more of torque steer?
you're a really neat guy.

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Old Feb 23, 2003 | 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by 03BlkSETE


I tried so hard not to post in this thread unless I had something positive to add but I'm so tired of reading posts like yours. My first impression is that your a Nissan mole trying to discourage someone from righting a very probable wrong. There is no way you are a lawyer otherwise you'd realize that civil actions, especially one against a very large corporation usually take a very long time.

My final comment is... WHAT THE HELL DO YOU CARE? Someone else is doing all the work and taking the risk. We all stand to benefit if they succeed. And if you're worried about torque steer go buy yourself a civic.
i couldn't have said it better, maybe the lawyers we have are just alittle better than what you can produce
Old Feb 23, 2003 | 04:16 PM
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Originally posted by 03BlkSETE

Someone else is doing all the work and taking the risk. We all stand to benefit if they succeed. And if you're worried about torque steer go buy yourself a civic.
What do you say we get something together for the guy that "took one for the team".

Whoever is letting them take apart their car for the benefit of all of us, is a great guy. They need some special treatment/recognition from all that will stand to possibly benefit from the outcome.

Even if we come to find out it does have 255 bhp, he still took a chance, and I will personally donate to that person. But I have to have some way of knowing the person is real.

I say we have someone set up a paypal account and take donations for this "person". Whoever it is that donated his/her car can stay annonymous if they want, or let people know they are stepping up.

I just think we should put up $5-$10 each, try to get $500 for the person as a donation from all the 3.5L owners that want to thank the person for their generosity.

any thoughts?

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Old Feb 23, 2003 | 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by VQMAN


What do you say we get something together for the guy that "took one for the team".

Whoever is letting them take apart their car for the benefit of all of us, is a great guy. They need some special treatment/recognition from all that will stand to possibly benefit from the outcome.

Even if we come to find out it does have 255 bhp, he still took a chance, and I will personally donate to that person. But I have to have some way of knowing the person is real.

I say we have someone set up a paypal account and take donations for this "person". Whoever it is that donated his/her car can stay annonymous if they want, or let people know they are stepping up.

I just think we should put up $5-$10 each, try to get $500 for the person as a donation from all the 3.5L owners that want to thank the person for their generosity.

any thoughts?

-vq
that won't be needed......he's getting compensated
Old Feb 23, 2003 | 04:47 PM
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that won't be needed......he's getting compensated
that's good...tell him I said thanks...regardless of the outcome.

-vq
Old Feb 23, 2003 | 11:41 PM
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so is this going anywhere???
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 09:13 AM
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any updates?

-mr impatience
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 10:15 AM
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Couldnt the maxima just have a heavier flywheel?
Decreasing the hp to the wheels?
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 10:25 AM
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Couldnt the maxima just have a heavier flywheel?
Decreasing the hp to the wheels?
yes it could...that is why they are doing an engine dyno with the engine pulled...to see crank shaft hp...

-vq
Old Mar 12, 2003 | 11:06 PM
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 12:04 AM
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 05:03 AM
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Originally posted by Ronatron
Couldnt the maxima just have a heavier flywheel?
Decreasing the hp to the wheels?
No.
Old Mar 13, 2003 | 05:35 AM
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Has this been done yet?? The test of the bhp? What were the results??

Anxiously waitin'

Later,
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 05:12 PM
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Is anybody there?
Old Apr 1, 2003 | 07:13 PM
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Count me in. Let me know what info y'all need. My email is creutzmann@hotmail.com. I want my 15 hp damnit
Old Apr 2, 2003 | 07:20 AM
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Don't know if necessary but I would like to offer to get my 2k2 dyno'd. I live in Chicago area, and there is shop in naperville that will dyno.

I have an Auto SE 2k2 w\ 25K on it.
Old Jul 29, 2003 | 08:25 PM
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what were the results of the crankshaft horsepower?
Old Jul 29, 2003 | 08:42 PM
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*shrug*
I don't think we'll be seeing that figure anytime soon. Although there has been talk of the lawyers doing an engine dyno. I volun. to have them dyno my engine, lawyers were interested, we talked, then nothing happened. IMO this is basically dead.
Old Jul 29, 2003 | 10:17 PM
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Someone? Please update us impatient owners. Thanks.
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 01:54 PM
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this blows......................
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 05:13 PM
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Im not saying that i want 15+ free horsepower, but I would like something close to what was advertised and what I was told by 3 salespersons
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Originally posted by davidme
Im not saying that i want 15+ free horsepower, but I would like something close to what was advertised and what I was told by 3 salespersons
Its not free if youve already paid for it...........
Old Jul 31, 2003 | 12:15 PM
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What do you say we get something together for the guy that "took one for the team".

Whoever is letting them take apart their car for the benefit of all of us, is a great guy. They need some special treatment/recognition from all that will stand to possibly benefit from the outcome.

Even if we come to find out it does have 255 bhp, he still took a chance, and I will personally donate to that person. But I have to have some way of knowing the person is real.

I say we have someone set up a paypal account and take donations for this "person". Whoever it is that donated his/her car can stay annonymous if they want, or let people know they are stepping up.

I just think we should put up $5-$10 each, try to get $500 for the person as a donation from all the 3.5L owners that want to thank the person for their generosity.

any thoughts?

-vq
Nice try...

maybe we should set up a friggin telemarketing company to help with the 'collection' efforts.

Please.

NOBODY needs to get donations of any sort over this.
Old Jul 31, 2003 | 02:38 PM
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comon, the guy that pulls his engine is risking something... even a dollar per person wouldnt be too bad...... think about what you are gaining....

if the numbers pull to 255, we dont give him anything......... if they do then maybe we should...
Old Aug 5, 2003 | 01:19 PM
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well i offered my car and only asked that i not have to pay for the removal or putting the engine back....but everyone was acting lick **** SUCKERS because i sell nissans....my stance was i still am a max owner and want what i paid for too...and mine was probobly the best to use since my 03 has 25k of the hardest miles a car could have ever seen....if these guys wernt such assis we would have had a motor to test 8 months ago when i voluntered mine....but this horsepower thing in the max doesnt mean anything to me anymore....i now have a 350z parked next to the max ....funny thing is the z has 287 hp and my max is faster....so either the max has alot more power than we think or i really got screwed with my z car
Old Aug 5, 2003 | 01:41 PM
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w.tf is up w/that? IMO they really didn't want to go through w/it b/c I volunteered up my Max for no $$ & they made it seem as if they were ready to dyno it and all. They said they would call back..that was in Feb. no news since then.
Old Aug 6, 2003 | 05:06 AM
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yea my feeling is the ones that started the thread just talked out the sde of there neck.....thats 2 cars in the last year that they could have used and nothing....
Old Sep 3, 2003 | 11:25 PM
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yea my feeling is the ones that started the thread just talked out the sde of there neck.....thats 2 cars in the last year that they could have used and nothing....
i offered mine also and nothing!that was when i had an02 gle.i would still offer my 03 se now !
Old Sep 3, 2003 | 11:57 PM
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hey tony, they didn't need the cars, they wanted a brand new engine, so there are no discrepancies with the dyno numbers, plus they didn't want to have to deal with guaranteeing a warantee on the engine dyno since they can't conclude that pulling an engine out and dynoing it won't do some sort of damage, so they paid over 5,000 to get a brand new engine from a nissan dealer........but whatever lawyers you were talking to were stupid...don't think you were talking to the ones that Steve (dmbmaxima) was talking to........i told you this s*&t takes a while, it has already taken way to f-ing long, as the lawyer will admit himself, but there have been things beyond his control, either way i'd be thankful that someone is willing to offer up their services.....any questions email me or send me an instant message for specifics
Old Sep 4, 2003 | 01:48 AM
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Gota be in it to win it, right?

Just a quick question,

If this all goes as planned with this affect all Maxima owners or just the ones willing to fight this? I am willing just new to all this, sorry

Old Sep 4, 2003 | 02:18 AM
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hey hey hey dont forget about the i35s in this thread.... we got shafted too

update: page 16 talked about i35s... oops shoulda read b4 posting...
well i dunno my i35 feels faster than my friend's max but i know that its all in my head. those two cars are identical in every way but design.
Old Sep 4, 2003 | 06:34 AM
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What I'm a little lost about in this whole deal is that it didn't take over a year for Ford to fess up and do something when their numbers were off. Now Mazda has stepped up to the plate and done what is right with the RX-8 and how long has it been on the market 4-6 months.

Did anyone need to pull an engine new or used and do a dyno to get these manufacturers to do what they have done for their customers?

Either Nissan isn't being honest with the numbers and there is a 15% loss in the manual drive train with 240HP at the motor. 240*.85=204
Or there is 255HP and a 20% loss. 255*.8=204

If they dropped 5k on an engine have the done anything with it yet? and if so what was the out come?

Given Steve dosn't own a Max any more and I don't think he's following this any more. So Tony that leaves you at the moment. It would be nice to get an update beyond what we've seen so far. Time is slipping away and this model is out of production the likely hood of getting anything now is about nil. Nissan has nothing to gain and to much to lose.

So with out an update from those in the know this thread should be allowed to die a proper death, we've got what we've got live with it and start modding for more power.
Old Sep 4, 2003 | 08:39 AM
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specialists, background checking to see if it's worth the wild to spend the money on, and a brand new engine from the dealership doesn't come right away, given this has already taken too long, but honestly who cares how long it takes just as long as 2k2-2k3 maxima owners get their's.........to answer the other questions, this will affect all 2k2 and 2k3 maxima owners......it has nothing to do with whose willing to fight this, the fighting goes on with the lawyers....and this will even help the i35 2k2 2k3 if they have the same exact engine....like i said "im" me for specifics

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Horsepower

Ok, I got a 2003 Maxima in April of this year and the reason I got it was the improvement from 222 HP to 255Hp plus the Manuel Trans. If this is true I am very disappointed in Nissan that they would lie about the HP in the Max's. I would love to SUE Nissan not only because of the HP thing, but because of all the other problems I am having with my 2003 Max like the paint, the rotors ect... How do I contact someone in reference to this Class Action Suit? Any onfo please email me at hct67@msn.com


Originally Posted by maximaman777
What I'm a little lost about in this whole deal is that it didn't take over a year for Ford to fess up and do something when their numbers were off. Now Mazda has stepped up to the plate and done what is right with the RX-8 and how long has it been on the market 4-6 months.

Did anyone need to pull an engine new or used and do a dyno to get these manufacturers to do what they have done for their customers?

Either Nissan isn't being honest with the numbers and there is a 15% loss in the manual drive train with 240HP at the motor. 240*.85=204
Or there is 255HP and a 20% loss. 255*.8=204

If they dropped 5k on an engine have the done anything with it yet? and if so what was the out come?

Given Steve dosn't own a Max any more and I don't think he's following this any more. So Tony that leaves you at the moment. It would be nice to get an update beyond what we've seen so far. Time is slipping away and this model is out of production the likely hood of getting anything now is about nil. Nissan has nothing to gain and to much to lose.

So with out an update from those in the know this thread should be allowed to die a proper death, we've got what we've got live with it and start modding for more power.



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