Smoked by a Lexus SC430
02-08-2003, 09:29 AM
#41
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Jezz, get the fock outta the Mustang Mentality. NO ONE buys a SC 430 for acceleration but instead for the panache, the HARDTOP CONVERTIBLE, one of the finest interiors EVER MADE, reliability. IT is a GRAND TOURER, not a sports car. Owners know this.
You can't swap the V-8 SC 430. Now from my understanding, a SC 330 should be coming, cheaper and still no engine swap. V-6 instead of a I-6.
When did the 3.0 become a VQ engine?
Lexus V-8s are beasts stock on the highway. 60mph and up, they really pull strong.
Faster does not=better
You can't swap the V-8 SC 430. Now from my understanding, a SC 330 should be coming, cheaper and still no engine swap. V-6 instead of a I-6.
When did the 3.0 become a VQ engine?
Lexus V-8s are beasts stock on the highway. 60mph and up, they really pull strong.
Faster does not=better
02-08-2003, 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
VQ's came out in 94 with 3.0 engines
VQ's came out in 94 with 3.0 engines
well, at least that is the case here in the states...
-vq
02-08-2003, 10:16 AM
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i see a lot of the new sc430's in my area, they are nice looking cars but for that money you would have to be dumb not to get an M3 or M5 instead. i had a run in with an older model 740IL and we both punched it at the same time and he stayed about a car behind me the whole time from 30-85. i was suprised how well it held its ground, at the time i had y/vb/CIA
02-08-2003, 10:28 AM
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IMO, the SC430 is for the country-club type who care much more about image and perfromance. The 7-series is perhaps one of the ugliest cars on the road. My uncle has both an M5 and a new 7-series and he's looking into getting rid of the 7-series. The i-drive system on that car is extremely complicated and makes everyday activites like changing radio stations and climate control settings into a complete pain in the a$$.
02-08-2003, 10:46 AM
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i see a lot of the new sc430's in my area, they are nice looking cars but for that money you would have to be dumb not to get an M3 or M5 instead. i had a run in with an older model 740IL and we both punched it at the same time and he stayed about a car behind me the whole time from 30-85. i was suprised how well it held its ground, at the time i had y/vb/CIA
The M3/M5 will out perform the SC 430 in every aspect.
THe SC 430 has a retractable hardtop and will work forever.
These are totally diffrent cars. If the SC was so dumb, 8,000 of them would not have been sold 8 months before they came to the states.
VQ's came out in 94 with 3.0 engines
Concerning the 7, I loved the old one and the new one is growning on me. The interior is really something, love or hate it. I-drive is so stupid IMO, but the car FEELS like it is worth 80k. I love the side, the front and rear I am not a fan of.
02-08-2003, 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by Matthew
R U in a 3.0 or a 3.5??? In a 3.5 at highway speeds this should have been a much closer race unless you were caught in a high gear...
R U in a 3.0 or a 3.5??? In a 3.5 at highway speeds this should have been a much closer race unless you were caught in a high gear...
02-08-2003, 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
Thanks, I honestly did not know that.
Thanks, I honestly did not know that.
the vq30de came out in 1995, not 1994.
Originally posted by DTR Maxima
i see a lot of the new sc430's in my area, they are nice looking cars but for that money you would have to be dumb not to get an M3 or M5 instead. i had a run in with an older model 740IL and we both punched it at the same time and he stayed about a car behind me the whole time from 30-85. i was suprised how well it held its ground, at the time i had y/vb/CIA
i see a lot of the new sc430's in my area, they are nice looking cars but for that money you would have to be dumb not to get an M3 or M5 instead. i had a run in with an older model 740IL and we both punched it at the same time and he stayed about a car behind me the whole time from 30-85. i was suprised how well it held its ground, at the time i had y/vb/CIA
who would buy a SC430 before an M3 or M5?
not me...
but if the dude with $60,000 prefers a Lexus SC430 with a retractable hardtop...he/she must have his reasons. Not everyone buys a car because it can take a corner at 90mph...or can go 0-60 in less time than any other car in the price range. And not everyone has the same opinion on looks/style. It's not a bad car. I wouldn't drop $60 large on any Lexus...but that's me...i'd get a BMW M3/M5 or Mercedes AMG...
-vq
02-08-2003, 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by VQMAN
sorry, but you still don't know...
the vq30de came out in 1995, not 1994.
who would buy a SC430 before an M3 or M5?
not me...
but if the dude with $60,000 prefers a Lexus SC430 with a retractable hardtop...he/she must have his reasons. Not everyone buys a car because it can take a corner at 90mph...or can go 0-60 in less time than any other car in the price range. And not everyone has the same opinion on looks/style. It's not a bad car. I wouldn't drop $60 large on any Lexus...but that's me...i'd get a BMW M3/M5 or Mercedes AMG...
-vq [/B]
sorry, but you still don't know...
the vq30de came out in 1995, not 1994.
who would buy a SC430 before an M3 or M5?
not me...
but if the dude with $60,000 prefers a Lexus SC430 with a retractable hardtop...he/she must have his reasons. Not everyone buys a car because it can take a corner at 90mph...or can go 0-60 in less time than any other car in the price range. And not everyone has the same opinion on looks/style. It's not a bad car. I wouldn't drop $60 large on any Lexus...but that's me...i'd get a BMW M3/M5 or Mercedes AMG...
-vq [/B]
everytime a lexus (or some other slow, but nice car) v. maxima discussion comes up, our maximas are better because we're faster...but when you compare the maxima to the SRT-4, our maxima is better because we have nicer interiors. curious how 0-60 means nothing in the latter comparison
bottom line, if i had 60 grand to spend on a car, i'd get an M3, or some benz, just like many of us on this forum would. but i'm not going to criticize another person's decision to spend that 60K because my opinion has nothing to do with the decision that THEY make about their automobile.
02-08-2003, 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by Young04
everytime a lexus (or some other slow, but nice car) v. maxima discussion comes up, our maximas are better because we're faster...but when you compare the maxima to the SRT-4, our maxima is better because we have nicer interiors. curious how 0-60 means nothing in the latter comparison
everytime a lexus (or some other slow, but nice car) v. maxima discussion comes up, our maximas are better because we're faster...but when you compare the maxima to the SRT-4, our maxima is better because we have nicer interiors. curious how 0-60 means nothing in the latter comparison
yup
Originally posted by Young04
bottom line, if i had 60 grand to spend on a car, i'd get an M3, or some benz, just like many of us on this forum would. but i'm not going to criticize another person's decision to spend that 60K because my opinion has nothing to do with the decision that THEY make about their automobile.
bottom line, if i had 60 grand to spend on a car, i'd get an M3, or some benz, just like many of us on this forum would. but i'm not going to criticize another person's decision to spend that 60K because my opinion has nothing to do with the decision that THEY make about their automobile.
-vq
02-08-2003, 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by VQMAN
yupyup yup
-vq [/B]
yupyup yup
-vq [/B]
02-08-2003, 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by 00SESoonToBe
How come all of the sudden the 3.0 gets no respect? I know it's not as fast at the VQ but geeze, the car is still quick.
How come all of the sudden the 3.0 gets no respect? I know it's not as fast at the VQ but geeze, the car is still quick.
u can ask any engineer in japan (i know this cuz my friend's dad works in nissan japan)
thats why 3.0 sounds better than 3.5 (my opinion, since i drive both very often)
and by lookin at the dyno tests of 4th 3.0, 5th 3.0 and 5th 3.5
5th 3.0 has the most consistent performance
sweet ;-)
well, both 3.0 and 3.5 have their own goods and bads
btw, for anyone who wants to complain gettin beaten by big expensive cars,
why cant u just relax!
its normal for most cars getting smoked
many cars that cost more than 70k can beat us
i mean..... is anyone of u gonna complain when u get beat by a bentley? well, the new ones and the future ones can go REALLY fast u know, even though they are REALLY heavy
even that limo-like maybach, its owner can sit in that huge reclining backseat and still be able to smoke ya (0-60 in 5.7sec or something),
in that case, u lost to a guy who doesnt even drive, are u gonna complain that to us in the future?
02-08-2003, 08:23 PM
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Originally posted by Young04
Hank Hill much? bet you're from the south. i'm not going to look at your profile, but please don't burst my bubble.
Hank Hill much? bet you're from the south. i'm not going to look at your profile, but please don't burst my bubble.
I guess compared to Boston, anything's South...I'm from the midwest, Kansas City...on the Kansas side...Overland Park to be exact.
I went to Boston a few years ago...April 1999, watched a RedSox game and a Celtics game...went to all the "History" tourist attractions too...
great city...
I don't say "yup" in real conversation, just using it on the internet.
-vq
02-08-2003, 08:27 PM
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Originally posted by tary44
well, 3.0vq in 5th gen is more refined than 3.5vq
u can ask any engineer in japan (i know this cuz my friend's dad works in nissan japan)
thats why 3.0 sounds better than 3.5 (my opinion, since i drive both very often)
and by lookin at the dyno tests of 4th 3.0, 5th 3.0 and 5th 3.5
5th 3.0 has the most consistent performance
sweet ;-)
well, both 3.0 and 3.5 have their own goods and bads
well, 3.0vq in 5th gen is more refined than 3.5vq
u can ask any engineer in japan (i know this cuz my friend's dad works in nissan japan)
thats why 3.0 sounds better than 3.5 (my opinion, since i drive both very often)
and by lookin at the dyno tests of 4th 3.0, 5th 3.0 and 5th 3.5
5th 3.0 has the most consistent performance
sweet ;-)
well, both 3.0 and 3.5 have their own goods and bads
comparison of 3.0 and 3.5 vq is bad!
Originally posted by tary44
btw, for anyone who wants to complain gettin beaten by big expensive cars,
why cant u just relax!
its normal for most cars getting smoked
many cars that cost more than 70k can beat us
i mean..... is anyone of u gonna complain when u get beat by a bentley? well, the new ones and the future ones can go REALLY fast u know, even though they are REALLY heavy
even that limo-like maybach, its owner can sit in that huge reclining backseat and still be able to smoke ya (0-60 in 5.7sec or something),
in that case, u lost to a guy who doesnt even drive, are u gonna complain that to us in the future?
btw, for anyone who wants to complain gettin beaten by big expensive cars,
why cant u just relax!
its normal for most cars getting smoked
many cars that cost more than 70k can beat us
i mean..... is anyone of u gonna complain when u get beat by a bentley? well, the new ones and the future ones can go REALLY fast u know, even though they are REALLY heavy
even that limo-like maybach, its owner can sit in that huge reclining backseat and still be able to smoke ya (0-60 in 5.7sec or something),
in that case, u lost to a guy who doesnt even drive, are u gonna complain that to us in the future?
02-08-2003, 08:55 PM
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true true...
a friend of mine just got a X5 4.4L V8 4 ton BOX on wheels...paid 60K+ for the thing...
So why is he alway trying to compare it to my max...or even a honda cr-v for that matter...both cars cost less than half of what he paid???...
I have try to put my max against his, but I'm sure my 0-60 is better...but is 60-120 will blow me away!!!...
BUT YOU STILL PAID TWO TIMES AS MUCH!!! YOU BETTER BE FASTER!!!
a friend of mine just got a X5 4.4L V8 4 ton BOX on wheels...paid 60K+ for the thing...
So why is he alway trying to compare it to my max...or even a honda cr-v for that matter...both cars cost less than half of what he paid???...
I have try to put my max against his, but I'm sure my 0-60 is better...but is 60-120 will blow me away!!!...
BUT YOU STILL PAID TWO TIMES AS MUCH!!! YOU BETTER BE FASTER!!!
02-08-2003, 09:01 PM
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I'm surprised everyone here thinks that the SC430 is an ugly car...
I personally think it's one of the best looking 2 doors out there right now.
my fav 5, 2door cars:
1. 350Z the upcoming Z coupe will take this spot =) looks sweet also
2. G35 coupe
3. SC430
4. Silvia
5. Eclipse
go ahead flame me, but the point is SC430s look sweet, and the acceleration is too. Although I'm not too happy about it's interior, I hate wood trims. Also the price is not pleazing either, it is like $100,000 with everything + taxes and **** in Canada. I can buy like 2 350z's for that price!!
I personally think it's one of the best looking 2 doors out there right now.
my fav 5, 2door cars:
1. 350Z the upcoming Z coupe will take this spot =) looks sweet also
2. G35 coupe
3. SC430
4. Silvia
5. Eclipse
go ahead flame me, but the point is SC430s look sweet, and the acceleration is too. Although I'm not too happy about it's interior, I hate wood trims. Also the price is not pleazing either, it is like $100,000 with everything + taxes and **** in Canada. I can buy like 2 350z's for that price!!
02-08-2003, 10:36 PM
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the SC is a pretty sweet looking car - and i think its RWD.....from a roll the maxima should have a slight advantage
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