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I was looking to get a maxima.... and I like the new headlights, and reading reviews on sites says maxima is great, no problems, but fail to mention the tremendous nightmare the has happend and is happening to many nissan maxima owners.

The worst, your got in between a rock and a hard place. Because your insurance gets screwed and you pay and have down time. Not to mention the hair loss, and sleepless nights from worring about your maxima. Cant go in the mall.... Seriously, its dangerous if they strike at night, your stranded. And the insurance.... what a nightmare.

I was wonder, is there a class action law suit for this? I mean, if the Alarm is useless, and someone can steal it in less then 5 minutes, there is a serious design flaw and a death trap for owners of HID cars.

What seems to me today, is that the problem is only in certain states, mainly the northeast. But, it will grow. Once people find out you can make money off stealing "headlights" that come off in 5 minutes, its over. Everyone will do it. Its horrible as I really admired the style. Is the 2000 maxima immune?

 

**** happens. It's not just maximas, other cars too. Many people steal alot stuff not just HIDs and other stuff. You are worry about it so much. If you worry about it so much, then just don't get the car. I seen alot of hondas and toyota get stolen everyday. I know my friend who got his car stolen once, got head unit got stolen 4 times and got rims stolen once. But **** happens to bad luck people. That's how the f ucked up the world is but you got to live with that.

 

As hard as it is to believe, one of the most broken into cars in the US are Honda Civics. My mom has a Civic and I can tell you right now that there absolutely nothing inside that is worth stealing... despite that someone tried to break into it in a well lit busy parking lot.

Thieves do what they do. Can't stop them, doesn't make a difference to them if its a Maxima or Sentra...

 

yes, but its sad people dont speak up. I mean, I heard of insurance companies not wanting to pay after it happens more then once or so. What the hell are you giving these people money for?

I just think cars are like computers. I was going to walking in the dealership the other day and get this car. I didnt know it wasa nightmare. I live in NY and want to sleep at night. I want the car, is the 2000 headlights as stolen? That just sucks when people steal parts of your car. If you ever want to know anything about any product, check the user forums. I am sure many people didnt have an idea these were so stolen. People who lease or finance, because the headlights looked so cool. These things are hot because they make the car. And it sucks that people had to be $30,000 beta testers for nissan. Thats not counting downtime and insurance..... scary really...

 

Some people replace the 2k2-2k3 headlights with 2k-2k1 headlights. They lose the HID benefits, but gain piece of mind.

So yes, you could say the 2k-2k1 are immune... but they don't have the extra ponies of the 3.5VQ

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It is nightmare to read your post.

 

but I still love my max......

 

Or you could get 2002 SE Maxima, replace the headlights with the 2000 model and put HIDs in there.


~limsandy

 

So I'm trying to figure out why you took the time to register and post... are you trying to have us talk you into buying one? You should never let someone make up your mind for you. Buy a 1989 chevy cavalier and sleep soundly knowing it's not going to get touched and if it is, the ensuing damage my actually INCREASE the value of the car.

Or, are you posting to try and point out how dumb we are for buying these cars? I bought my car knowing full well the strengths and weaknesses and made my own decision. It is NOT nissan's fault the headlights are a target. If the headlights were harder to remove the thieves would just be trying harder, or they'd just steal the whole damned car in less than a minute... are there any class action lawsuits against car manufacturers for making cars that can be stolen?

Toyota Camry is the most often stolen car ever...but they still sell like hotcakes. Hondas are also high on the hitlist but millions still sell every year. There are no class action lawsuits against honda or toyota for making a popular product, so why should there be one against nissan?

We all make our own decisions, make one that fits your lifestyle and allows you to sleep peacefully. Obviously that doesn't include a 2k2/2k3 nissan maxima.

 

"The worst, your got in between a rock and a hard place"

 

should it have been " you're " ??



I know how you love that one! I'm fast, your slow!!

 

well, sucks for HID owners. AT least now I know and have saved my self thousands. But if these things can just be pulled off, nissan didnt do their job in making a car thats great. A tremendous design flaw makes the insurance companies richer, burns a whole in your pocket, and makes theives richer. I guess I will wait for the new maxima where they fix this, and I can have HID with better protection. AT least I didnt turn out to be a $20,000 beta tester.

 

So I was right... we HID owners are very happy with our cars, so you can **** off and leave.

But you might want to find out more about this car and see if it's still available

http://portland.craigslist.org/car/15482013.html

 

wow, this is the problem with people today. They buy $30,000 nightmares, along with nightmare insurance. I feel for maximas owners with HID lights. This problem of stolen HID is still in its infancy, and it looks like its going to get worse before it gets better...

 

are you visiting all the camry sites and telling them they're fools for buying the most often stolen car? Are you visiting all the honda sites and telling them they're fools for buying cars that are broken into at 3x the rate of other cars? How about the TL sites and letting them know about their headlights?

the "problem" is people like you, trolling around looking for an argument. I am more than happy with my 2k2 as are 99% of the people who bought them. Ask us if we'd buy them again and most would quickly say yes. Ask the 2k1/2k crowd if they'd like HIDs and most would say yes.

so how about you shove your "I know something you don't know" attitude up your troll-flamer *** and go away.

oh, and about what you *think* you know... I paid way less than $30k so 1) get your facts straight, and when I sold my '98 Ford F-150 and bought this car my insurance went up a grand total of $24/year so 2) get your facts straight. You don't know **** about anything you're saying...

do you know what IBTL means?

 

I found this

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/autom...an_max_lt.html


ack in March 03 I had my headlights on my Nissan Maxima stolen. Then again on April 25, 2003 and again this past week. I contacted Nissan headquarters by mail to complain about my situation to see if they could help since the dealership told us they wanted between $3000 and $5000 to get out of my lease. That is crazy since I only leased the car less than 1 year ago and gave them $2500 for a down payment.

I was then contacted by a woman at Nissan by the name of Ida in May. She told me that she would try and help and that she would return my call. That took 11 days. She then promised me that she was going to get me out of my lease with no money down. That was the answer I needed. Since I had already invested over $3000 in fixing the problem and renting a car. Ida then went out on sick leave. I did not know this until a gentleman by the name of Louis returned my call after I left 9+ messages for Ida. He then told me that Ida shouldn't have promised me that she could help me because they couldn't. What kind of business is that?

I am sorry but they are the worst business I have ever had to deal with. I have since had the headlights stolen the third time and I am in a bind. I cannot keep fixing the headlights only to have them stolen. They say that there is a theft deterrent kit but it doesn't guarantee that I will not have my headlights stolen.

I have had to pay a $500 deductable twice -- $600 in deposits for the rental car and additional $570 for the time Ida made me wait till she got back to me. And now the expense to fix the damage a 3rd time.

Jaideep of Avenel NJ (7/17/03):
I have a 2002 Nissan Maxima and over the past two months, I have had tremendous problems keeping up with the car expenses. The headlights got stolen from my car twice. The first time when it got stolen, it took the dealer about 30 days to fix my car. The lights were not available in the market. Cost me about $500/- on my insurance deductibles and about $ 500/- on rental car. The second time the lights got stolen, my car just would not start. I had to call for a tow truck and take it to the dealer. Cost me $500 on insurance deductibles, but apart from the deductibles, it also cost me about $781/- on rental car. Once the lights were fixed, we discovered that the crank sensor went bad and had to be replaced, before I could start enjoying my car again, the sun roof had to be reprogrammed, the rear passenger window motor did not work, the washer fluid would not come out.

Also, even though the lights were fixed the second time, the right hand side headlight doesn’t come on when the light switch is turned on at the second level. Again, I’ll have to rent a car (at my own expense) & get it repaired.

Vita of Middle Village, NY (5/24/03):
I recently purchased a 2003 Nissan Maxima GLE. When I bought the car, no one told me that on this particular year and make of car, the headlights are very popular with thieves. So to my horror, my headlights were stolen 2 days ago. The policeman told me that the headlights on this car are easily removeable by just sticking a screwdriver on the lights and they pop out. The policeman told me that if they stole them once they will steal them again and again, he advised me not to leave the car out in the street more than 10 min. at a time.

Well, how horrible is this? I called the Nissan Corp. and they told me that there is nothing they could do about this. I'll just have to replace them at my expense. I do not believe that this is fair to all the consumers who have purchased these 2003 Maximas. As a matter of fact, they already came out with the 2004 Maximas with a modified light system that cannot be removed as easily. Why can't Nissan Corp. make good and help all the people who have these cars. Let them recall these cars and come up with some kind of device that will prevent the lights from getting stolen.

Daniella of Orange NJ (1/30/03):
I recently purchased a 2003 Nissan Maxima, and 3 days later at 4:00 in the afternoon, the headlights were stolen. The witness informed the police and me that the thief used no tools and were able to remove the headlights within 5 minutes without even having to go under the hood. The Police further informed me that it is a widespread problem in Northern New Jersey and that they usually steal the grill as well.

I later learned of 2 other 2002 and 2003 vehicles in a lot across from me that the owners have no idea what to do with, because they know if they replace the lights they are sure to be taken. One other person, from another part of town, said that her insurance carrier is refusing to replace her lights after the 3rd time. The dealer admitted to having received hundreds of complaints, but refused to release me from the contract.

When contacted, Nissan informed me of two so-called deterent alarm systems that in no way prevent the removal of the lights. The service people who install the devices at several dealers advised that the device only cause the thieves to cause more damage to the front of the vehicles. The ease with which these lights are removed can only be categorized as a factory defect and Nissan have completely refused to extend any assistance. They have instead chosen to profit from their customers' loss. Every set of headlights stolen presents a new source of revenue for them. WOR of New York reported on their evening news on 01/29/03, that dealers have informed them that replacement headlights are selling like hot cakes.

I am a teacher who have just spent $28,000 on a car that I cannot park anywhere. I further cannot realistically drive this car to any public location such as a mall, or attend any business or social gathering where I may not be able to leave before dark for there's a great possibility that I would not be able to drive myself home.

Should Nissan be held accountable for making a product that is not more theft resistant? Are dealers leagally obligated to disclose this problem to buyers? I can accept that manufacturers have no control over theft. However, I believe that when one manufactures a product with a $30,000 price tag that people are expected to park outside, it is expected that they should have some safety device that can cause a would-be perpetrator enough delay for a witness to call the police.

Rony of Tenafly NJ (1/29/03):
I have a Nissan Maxima 2003. Recently, the two HID headlights of my car were stolen twice within two months. Here are some facts: There is a serious problem with this car. Due to a poor design, it is possible to steal the HID headlights within less than 5 minutes. The HID headlights are being removed without opening the hood and the factory security system doesn't go off when the headlights are removed.

Each time, I had to file a claim with my car insurance, pay my deductible and have no car for about 3 weeks. The cost of restoring the two HID headlights is about $3000. Nissan has not come up with a good solution, which will prevent this from happening again. Nissan has come up with an anti-theft kit which is supposed to provide a better solution to their poor headlight design. Nissan is not willing to help with the cost of restoring the HID headlights.

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Thats enough for me. I am no troll, just a very smart consumer because I am doing research before I give $20,000 + to someone for an item. Dont bash me for coming here and doing research. I just saved myself thousands.... and wait until this problems snowballs into middle america and the fly over states. Its only in the north east...for now at least.