View Poll Results: So what springs are you running on your Max?
Eibach
228
16.59%
H&R
126
9.17%
Maxspeed
92
6.70%
Tein H-Tech
91
6.62%
Tein S-Tech
166
12.08%
Groundcontrol Coilovers
12
0.87%
Sprint
22
1.60%
Progressive
88
6.40%
JIC
13
0.95%
Stock
536
39.01%
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What springs are you running on your Max??
05-06-2005, 03:14 PM
#204
I have a 4th Gen I30, and since I have new 215/60 x 15 Fuzion tires, I think I have more room to romp -- so to speak.
I have not seen any posts that relate to a spring/strut setup for 15" rims. Given that info, and my primary desire to eliminate my floaty ride on the boulevard and motorcycle-like tilts around sharp corners, what would you recommend?
I'm leaning towards Illuminas, for sure, but not sure on which springs to buy. I also should add that I am on a budget, and have to partition what little disposable income I have left among a number of upgrades I plan on making.
Do I go with Maxspeed because of the lower cost, or H&R because of the better ride? Are Eibachs a better bang for the buck, or will they buck like a bronco over the moon craters that appear randomly on Jacksonville roads?
Or, do I score some Teins, and, if I do, would they be the lower-riding S-types, or the smoother riding H-Techs??
Decisions....decisions...decisions....
I have not seen any posts that relate to a spring/strut setup for 15" rims. Given that info, and my primary desire to eliminate my floaty ride on the boulevard and motorcycle-like tilts around sharp corners, what would you recommend?
I'm leaning towards Illuminas, for sure, but not sure on which springs to buy. I also should add that I am on a budget, and have to partition what little disposable income I have left among a number of upgrades I plan on making.
Do I go with Maxspeed because of the lower cost, or H&R because of the better ride? Are Eibachs a better bang for the buck, or will they buck like a bronco over the moon craters that appear randomly on Jacksonville roads?
Or, do I score some Teins, and, if I do, would they be the lower-riding S-types, or the smoother riding H-Techs??
Decisions....decisions...decisions....
05-17-2005, 10:47 PM
#205
well after readin what seems to be hundreds on this thread, ive decided too go with the illuminas and the H&R springs...... the illums i see on ebay for around 430 shipped...but the H&Rs , wheres a good place to buy them at a good price????
05-18-2005, 06:47 AM
#206
Originally Posted by seventy5impala
well after readin what seems to be hundreds on this thread, ive decided too go with the illuminas and the H&R springs...... the illums i see on ebay for around 430 shipped...but the H&Rs , wheres a good place to buy them at a good price????
www.sportcompactonly.com
Or talk to Justin, the originator of this GD thread:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=322033
There are many other places on the internet you can find H&Rs and other springs for decent prices, just depends on how much searching ya wanna do.
05-18-2005, 07:30 AM
#208
Originally Posted by Army of Maxima
Stock springs, stock struts.
The roads here in Louisiana are HORRIBLE. They have ruined my rear springs - especially the right rear spring. I had to put spring blocks in the rear to keep the car from sagging long enough to research what spring/strut package to put on it.
I want to put a package on WITHOUT lowering the car... any ideas?
The roads here in Louisiana are HORRIBLE. They have ruined my rear springs - especially the right rear spring. I had to put spring blocks in the rear to keep the car from sagging long enough to research what spring/strut package to put on it.
I want to put a package on WITHOUT lowering the car... any ideas?
05-18-2005, 08:02 AM
#209
So far, we've been talking about struts and springs as if they are the only components that matter, but with so many different car/rim/tire configurations, are we really comparing apples to apples here?
Ride quality is a normally a very subjective aspect. However, if you do not like a bumpy ride, regardless of how you define "Bumpy", you might consider talking directly to those owners who reported their strut/spring combo to be bumpy, and factor their impressions into your decision.
Even though "bumpy " is subjective, I think that you can find an objective benchmark for "Soft," namely the springs on a stock 4th Gen I30. Only a big Oldsmobile floated more, IMHO.
If you often drive over roads with lots of big potholes and such, and you dislike a harsh ride, you probably should choose springs that will drop your car less than 1.5" as the maximum.
From what I have gathered on this thread and others, the FEEL of the most popular spring sets range in softness to firmness as follows:
1. STOCK
2. TEIN H.TECH
3. H&R
4. VOGTLAND
5. TEIN S.TECH
6. EIBACH
I'm not sure where Maxspeed fits in the list...maybe stiffer than Vogtland. Please feel free to correct me if you have a different sense of these.
If you're using any kind of springs to lower your ride, you should also consider bumpstops and long-travel rear mounts.
Also, since the choice of which springs to buy can be very confusing, many people pair stock springs with new shocks/struts (unless their stock springs are worn out) with the intention of adding new springs later on. As far as getting the smoothest ride possible, this might be the way to go.
At this point, I've only decided on the struts/shocks (Tokico Illuminas) and am still on the fence with regards to the springs. Just when I thought I made my choice, I read someone's negative feedback on them and rethink my choice.
Sound familiar to anyone?
Ride quality is a normally a very subjective aspect. However, if you do not like a bumpy ride, regardless of how you define "Bumpy", you might consider talking directly to those owners who reported their strut/spring combo to be bumpy, and factor their impressions into your decision.
Even though "bumpy " is subjective, I think that you can find an objective benchmark for "Soft," namely the springs on a stock 4th Gen I30. Only a big Oldsmobile floated more, IMHO.
If you often drive over roads with lots of big potholes and such, and you dislike a harsh ride, you probably should choose springs that will drop your car less than 1.5" as the maximum.
From what I have gathered on this thread and others, the FEEL of the most popular spring sets range in softness to firmness as follows:
1. STOCK
2. TEIN H.TECH
3. H&R
4. VOGTLAND
5. TEIN S.TECH
6. EIBACH
I'm not sure where Maxspeed fits in the list...maybe stiffer than Vogtland. Please feel free to correct me if you have a different sense of these.
If you're using any kind of springs to lower your ride, you should also consider bumpstops and long-travel rear mounts.
Also, since the choice of which springs to buy can be very confusing, many people pair stock springs with new shocks/struts (unless their stock springs are worn out) with the intention of adding new springs later on. As far as getting the smoothest ride possible, this might be the way to go.
At this point, I've only decided on the struts/shocks (Tokico Illuminas) and am still on the fence with regards to the springs. Just when I thought I made my choice, I read someone's negative feedback on them and rethink my choice.
Sound familiar to anyone?
05-18-2005, 11:42 AM
#210
I think I would say:
1. Stock
2. H&R and Maxspeed
3. H-Tech
4. Progress
5. S-tech
6. Eibachs
This of course, is based on limited experiences with these set-ups on different struts and in different cars...
1. Stock
2. H&R and Maxspeed
3. H-Tech
4. Progress
5. S-tech
6. Eibachs
This of course, is based on limited experiences with these set-ups on different struts and in different cars...
05-18-2005, 01:16 PM
#211
Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
I think I would say:
1. Stock
2. H&R and Maxspeed
3. H-Tech
4. Progress
5. S-tech
6. Eibachs
This of course, is based on limited experiences with these set-ups on different struts and in different cars...
1. Stock
2. H&R and Maxspeed
3. H-Tech
4. Progress
5. S-tech
6. Eibachs
This of course, is based on limited experiences with these set-ups on different struts and in different cars...
05-19-2005, 06:55 AM
#213
Originally Posted by dr-rjp
How would you rate Maxspeed on quality, feel, and handling? At close to $100 a set, they sound like a bargain.
05-19-2005, 05:11 PM
#214
i had the progress springs on my car. the drop was great and the handling was superb. Ride Quality was another story, very tight ride, you feel all the bumps. If i had to do it again i would go with h/r and sacrifice a little drop to save the ride quality.
-steve
-steve
05-19-2005, 09:36 PM
#215
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^^ i was kind of debating between progress and a couple other setups. thanks for your input steve. i have a b pipe from the GD, i LOVE it, literally lol. i'm gonna try to go h techs by the end of the summer, i think it's a good compromise between looks, handling, and longetivity w/non adjustables (not to mention ride)
05-20-2005, 07:36 AM
#216
Can anyone share their experience with Ground Control Coilover/sleeves with any strut setup? My brother got the GC coilover/sleeves for his car but has since decided to give them to me and stick with his Eibach/HP setup.
05-20-2005, 02:57 PM
#218
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Originally Posted by Hokie350Z
Can anyone share their experience with Ground Control Coilover/sleeves with any strut setup? My brother got the GC coilover/sleeves for his car but has since decided to give them to me and stick with his Eibach/HP setup.
Can you shed any light on why? I wanted to hear about anyone's experience with the Ground Control coilovers.....
05-21-2005, 07:43 AM
#220
Weird as I had GC/Konis on my Maxima for 3.5 years with alot of miles on them, and I THIS was THE best setup for a A33 back in the day. Now we got other options to choose from but I paid bout 950 for my setup back them. I was quite happy with it and I belive Frankd121 can say the same bout it as hes using them now. I wouldn't ever go back from using coilovers on my Maxima to normal springs. My car was only few months old when I decided to add braces, sway bars, and lower it with Koni Yellows and GCs. I am rocking JIC Magic FLTA2s now.
Do you have any Ground Controll experiences on Maximas ?
Do you have any Ground Controll experiences on Maximas ?
05-21-2005, 10:07 PM
#221
finally put on the eibachs.
before
after
the springs were installed on the fronts only and on stock struts. the ride is perfect. the car now stays flat in the turns but retains the stock SE ride comfort.
before
after
the springs were installed on the fronts only and on stock struts. the ride is perfect. the car now stays flat in the turns but retains the stock SE ride comfort.
05-21-2005, 10:40 PM
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I don't have GC experiences on a maxima but i don't see why they'd be any different from my old roommates integra LS, another good friend's gs-r, a coworker's prelude, etc etc.....they don't allow much suspension travel. they're cheap, all 3 of these guys have since switched to either REAL coilovers or back to springs/shocks. i dunno, they just look cheap, the idea of them are pretty lame too..
05-31-2005, 10:06 AM
#225
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The Tein springs are awesome, do your self a favor and DO NOT BUY DROPZONE SPRINGS. the car rides way to loose. i have illuminas on my car set on 3 and they stil ride loose i hate it. my boy has tien springs with stock struts and its ride stiffer then mine. if your looking for a plush ride then dropzones are teh way to go, but i really like the tien for a sporty feel
05-31-2005, 12:01 PM
#226
Bought a set of Tein H.Techs (again). Let's hope that this eBay'er is more reliable than the last.
BTW, how are acceleration times impacted by installing stiffer shocks/struts and lowering springs?
BTW, how are acceleration times impacted by installing stiffer shocks/struts and lowering springs?
06-03-2005, 06:32 AM
#229
Originally Posted by jay929rr
Anybody know the main difference between the tein s-techs and the h-techs?
I have the s-techs and think its a bit to rough.
I have the s-techs and think its a bit to rough.
06-03-2005, 09:10 PM
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Looks tight!
Originally Posted by BP
finally put on the eibachs.
before
after
the springs were installed on the fronts only and on stock struts. the ride is perfect. the car now stays flat in the turns but retains the stock SE ride comfort.
before
after
the springs were installed on the fronts only and on stock struts. the ride is perfect. the car now stays flat in the turns but retains the stock SE ride comfort.
06-05-2005, 06:07 PM
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alright, i'm having a REALLY hard time deciding whether to buy H&Rs or H-techs.....according to housecor's site, the H&Rs not only offer the best ride, but they offer the best handling too...is this accurate? i would think a lower center of gravity and a stiffer spring would have a better effect on handling than the H&R's smooth and fairly high ride....i want the H&Rs because of the nice ride (and handling, if that is true), and i want the H-techs for the looks....from what i've seen here, a lot of people are sporting the H&Rs on illuminas, but not many people have been commenting on the difference in ride and handling from stock....can these people, as well as the people with h-techs elaborate on this, please? that would help me a lot, thanks!
06-05-2005, 09:54 PM
#236
H-Tech and Illuminas here and lovin' it! The first setup was stock. Then I got me some Eibachs and Tokiko Blues. The ride was just a little better than stock on your typical road. Next was the 18" wheels and that made the larger bumps really bad.
When the Illuminas came out I put those on the car and the ride totally transformed into a luxury feel without losing any performance feel.
Finally, I switched out the Eibachs for the H-Techs and I feel as if I have finally arrived at the perfect setup. The Eibachs sagged shortly after 1 year which is the reason for the switch. The H-Techs have a great stance and their ride is much more compliant than the Eibachs. The H-Tech is a great quality spring, IMO
I used to have H&R's on my 5.0 stang and they were one of the best springs I have ever owned. YOu have a hard decision, I would go for the H-Techs because it perches the rear slightly higher than the front for that aggressive look.
When the Illuminas came out I put those on the car and the ride totally transformed into a luxury feel without losing any performance feel.
Finally, I switched out the Eibachs for the H-Techs and I feel as if I have finally arrived at the perfect setup. The Eibachs sagged shortly after 1 year which is the reason for the switch. The H-Techs have a great stance and their ride is much more compliant than the Eibachs. The H-Tech is a great quality spring, IMO
I used to have H&R's on my 5.0 stang and they were one of the best springs I have ever owned. YOu have a hard decision, I would go for the H-Techs because it perches the rear slightly higher than the front for that aggressive look.
06-06-2005, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Edward Lee
H-Tech and Illuminas here and lovin' it! The first setup was stock. Then I got me some Eibachs and Tokiko Blues. The ride was just a little better than stock on your typical road. Next was the 18" wheels and that made the larger bumps really bad.
When the Illuminas came out I put those on the car and the ride totally transformed into a luxury feel without losing any performance feel.
Finally, I switched out the Eibachs for the H-Techs and I feel as if I have finally arrived at the perfect setup. The Eibachs sagged shortly after 1 year which is the reason for the switch. The H-Techs have a great stance and their ride is much more compliant than the Eibachs. The H-Tech is a great quality spring, IMO
I used to have H&R's on my 5.0 stang and they were one of the best springs I have ever owned. YOu have a hard decision, I would go for the H-Techs because it perches the rear slightly higher than the front for that aggressive look.
When the Illuminas came out I put those on the car and the ride totally transformed into a luxury feel without losing any performance feel.
Finally, I switched out the Eibachs for the H-Techs and I feel as if I have finally arrived at the perfect setup. The Eibachs sagged shortly after 1 year which is the reason for the switch. The H-Techs have a great stance and their ride is much more compliant than the Eibachs. The H-Tech is a great quality spring, IMO
I used to have H&R's on my 5.0 stang and they were one of the best springs I have ever owned. YOu have a hard decision, I would go for the H-Techs because it perches the rear slightly higher than the front for that aggressive look.
06-06-2005, 12:08 PM
#238
Originally Posted by maxilvr06
thanks a lot for the comment....now when you said the eibach's ride were a little BETTER than stock, does that mean smoother, or tighter? because i heard the eibachs have a fairly harsh ride....and compared to stock, how would you rate the H-tech's ride and handling? i want a good handling spring that doesn't have that floaty feel to it, but also isn't jarring over the bumps...
The stock springs seemed to bounce around alot. The Eibachs were smoother around town but were really bad at large potholes, road transitions and travel. They didn't seem to have enough travel at higher speedsand when I would approach something tht I knew was going to upset the ride, I had to slow down quite a bit.
I think that the H-techs are some of the best springs that I have ever owned. I never had the H&R's on my Max but I did have a set on my 5.0 and I loved them. The reason that i didn't get the H&R's was because I didn't want to lower the rear as much as the front. The H-Techs are a 1.4 in the front and a 1 in the rear for a perfect aggressive stance. The Eibachs made the rear look lower than the front probably due to them sagging in less than 1 year. Whetever, the case was, I didn't want to go through that again with the H&R as it too lowers the rear over 1" so i decided to go with the Tein's.
H-Techs or H&R's, you can't go wrong. I think that the ride is very similar for both of these springs. The H-Techs will give your car a better stance. Oh yea, I now haul *** over potholes, bumps and anything in my way.
06-06-2005, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Edward Lee
The stock springs seemed to bounce around alot. The Eibachs were smoother around town but were really bad at large potholes, road transitions and travel. They didn't seem to have enough travel at higher speedsand when I would approach something tht I knew was going to upset the ride, I had to slow down quite a bit.
I think that the H-techs are some of the best springs that I have ever owned. I never had the H&R's on my Max but I did have a set on my 5.0 and I loved them. The reason that i didn't get the H&R's was because I didn't want to lower the rear as much as the front. The H-Techs are a 1.4 in the front and a 1 in the rear for a perfect aggressive stance. The Eibachs made the rear look lower than the front probably due to them sagging in less than 1 year. Whetever, the case was, I didn't want to go through that again with the H&R as it too lowers the rear over 1" so i decided to go with the Tein's.
H-Techs or H&R's, you can't go wrong. I think that the ride is very similar for both of these springs. The H-Techs will give your car a better stance. Oh yea, I now haul *** over potholes, bumps and anything in my way.
I think that the H-techs are some of the best springs that I have ever owned. I never had the H&R's on my Max but I did have a set on my 5.0 and I loved them. The reason that i didn't get the H&R's was because I didn't want to lower the rear as much as the front. The H-Techs are a 1.4 in the front and a 1 in the rear for a perfect aggressive stance. The Eibachs made the rear look lower than the front probably due to them sagging in less than 1 year. Whetever, the case was, I didn't want to go through that again with the H&R as it too lowers the rear over 1" so i decided to go with the Tein's.
H-Techs or H&R's, you can't go wrong. I think that the ride is very similar for both of these springs. The H-Techs will give your car a better stance. Oh yea, I now haul *** over potholes, bumps and anything in my way.
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