View Poll Results: So what springs are you running on your Max?
Eibach
228
16.59%
H&R
126
9.17%
Maxspeed
92
6.70%
Tein H-Tech
91
6.62%
Tein S-Tech
166
12.08%
Groundcontrol Coilovers
12
0.87%
Sprint
22
1.60%
Progressive
88
6.40%
JIC
13
0.95%
Stock
536
39.01%
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What springs are you running on your Max??
06-25-2005, 01:22 PM
#241
People with Sprint springs!!!
How does the ride quality on the Sprint springs. I heard they give you a good drop, good handling, and that you don't sacrafice the ride quality from your stock springs. That they are not too stiff at all. Is that realy true from what what I heard?
06-29-2005, 11:13 AM
#244
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Stupid Question, Stupid Answer.
I just recieved the Tein S. tech springs for my 2k2 Max, but when I looked on the box it says that they are for a 95-99. When I called the seller, they said that the springs are the same and that they just have different part numbers... So I'm unsure of if these springs will fit or not? are they the same or are they totally different? Sorry to Hi-jack the thread, I just really need an answer. Thanks.
07-11-2005, 11:12 AM
#246
Not really appropriate for this thread, but I need to sell a brand new, unopened, set of Tokico Illuminas adjustable struts & shocks...as well as long travel rear mounts.
PM me, if interested.
PM me, if interested.
07-15-2005, 01:37 PM
#252
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Originally Posted by HulaMAX
Upgrading your suspension won't change your mileage...
UNLESS you accelerate/brake more into turns, freeway onraps/offramps, run away from cops...
UNLESS you accelerate/brake more into turns, freeway onraps/offramps, run away from cops...
Yeah watch out for the 
but once you have a new suspension you will want to 
all day long as fast as you can. Which in turn could change your gas millage quite a bit.
07-16-2005, 09:08 PM
#253
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Looking to change out springs for improvement in aggressive handling (I autocross my '00 SE Max). Don't want to lower it dramatically or kill the ride since it is my daily driver. So far from reading I have narrowed it down to H&R, Tein H.Tech, and Maxspeed. Thoughts on why any of these are a poor choice?
Also would prefer to not replace stock struts. If I choose a spring that doesn't dramatically lower the car, what are my odds of not blowing the struts? Any other concerns with using stock?
Also would prefer to not replace stock struts. If I choose a spring that doesn't dramatically lower the car, what are my odds of not blowing the struts? Any other concerns with using stock?
07-17-2005, 11:31 AM
#254
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Originally Posted by Whitey-00MaxSE
Looking to change out springs for improvement in aggressive handling (I autocross my '00 SE Max). Don't want to lower it dramatically or kill the ride since it is my daily driver. So far from reading I have narrowed it down to H&R, Tein H.Tech, and Maxspeed. Thoughts on why any of these are a poor choice?
Also would prefer to not replace stock struts. If I choose a spring that doesn't dramatically lower the car, what are my odds of not blowing the struts? Any other concerns with using stock?
Also would prefer to not replace stock struts. If I choose a spring that doesn't dramatically lower the car, what are my odds of not blowing the struts? Any other concerns with using stock?
Bruce
07-17-2005, 05:57 PM
#255
Originally Posted by Whitey-00MaxSE
Looking to change out springs for improvement in aggressive handling (I autocross my '00 SE Max). Don't want to lower it dramatically or kill the ride since it is my daily driver. So far from reading I have narrowed it down to H&R, Tein H.Tech, and Maxspeed. Thoughts on why any of these are a poor choice?
Also would prefer to not replace stock struts. If I choose a spring that doesn't dramatically lower the car, what are my odds of not blowing the struts? Any other concerns with using stock?
Also would prefer to not replace stock struts. If I choose a spring that doesn't dramatically lower the car, what are my odds of not blowing the struts? Any other concerns with using stock?
07-18-2005, 11:41 AM
#256
^ not accurate. if you use a spring with a mild drop (eibach / hr's) you can ride on stock SE struts for a good while without them blowing out. there are several members, including myself, who have been on lowering springs with stock struts for a while with no problems.
all struts will blow out at some point. but there are several who've upgraded their struts along with the springs and still blow the aftermarket struts.
all struts will blow out at some point. but there are several who've upgraded their struts along with the springs and still blow the aftermarket struts.
07-18-2005, 11:46 AM
#257
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Originally Posted by BP
^ not accurate. if you use a spring with a mild drop (eibach / hr's) you can ride on stock SE struts for a good while without them blowing out. there are several members, including myself, who have been on lowering springs with stock struts for a while with no problems.
all struts will blow out at some point. but there are several who've upgraded their struts along with the springs and still blow the aftermarket struts.
all struts will blow out at some point. but there are several who've upgraded their struts along with the springs and still blow the aftermarket struts.
07-18-2005, 05:21 PM
#258
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Installed about a month ago. Tein S-Techs on Illuminas. Ride quality is pretty good. Rough at times But I"m in the smooth suburbs but drive to the city often. I have the Illuminas set at 3/3
07-18-2005, 07:22 PM
#259
H-Techs
Originally Posted by Whitey-00MaxSE
Looking to change out springs for improvement in aggressive handling (I autocross my '00 SE Max). Don't want to lower it dramatically or kill the ride since it is my daily driver. So far from reading I have narrowed it down to H&R, Tein H.Tech, and Maxspeed. Thoughts on why any of these are a poor choice?
Also would prefer to not replace stock struts. If I choose a spring that doesn't dramatically lower the car, what are my odds of not blowing the struts? Any other concerns with using stock?
Also would prefer to not replace stock struts. If I choose a spring that doesn't dramatically lower the car, what are my odds of not blowing the struts? Any other concerns with using stock?
The H-techs give a really nice and smooth ride and they don't lower the car drastically. I have them running with the Illuminas set on 4 all the way around and shod with some Michelin PS2's. The ride is absolutely fantastic. The increased dampening of the shocks, set at 4, offset by the softness of the springs and the softer Michelin sidewall give this car the ride and handling of a fine European ride.
07-18-2005, 07:25 PM
#260
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Guys... Keep the info coming.
I am trying to find the H&R spring rates (linear), but comparing the Eibachs (are these Progressive springs?) and the Tein-H(linear), the rates look very comparable. Is there a big difference between these two types of springs for performance handling? Other postings have complained about Eibachs sagging, have you had any experience with this?
What are the best prices folks have found for the Tokico Illuminas? Just feels like a lot of money to me for not much benefit in terms of autocross handling.
I am trying to find the H&R spring rates (linear), but comparing the Eibachs (are these Progressive springs?) and the Tein-H(linear), the rates look very comparable. Is there a big difference between these two types of springs for performance handling? Other postings have complained about Eibachs sagging, have you had any experience with this?
What are the best prices folks have found for the Tokico Illuminas? Just feels like a lot of money to me for not much benefit in terms of autocross handling.
07-19-2005, 03:46 AM
#262
Originally Posted by Whitey-00MaxSE
Guys... Keep the info coming.
I am trying to find the H&R spring rates (linear), but comparing the Eibachs (are these Progressive springs?) and the Tein-H(linear), the rates look very comparable. Is there a big difference between these two types of springs for performance handling? Other postings have complained about Eibachs sagging, have you had any experience with this?
What are the best prices folks have found for the Tokico Illuminas? Just feels like a lot of money to me for not much benefit in terms of autocross handling.
I am trying to find the H&R spring rates (linear), but comparing the Eibachs (are these Progressive springs?) and the Tein-H(linear), the rates look very comparable. Is there a big difference between these two types of springs for performance handling? Other postings have complained about Eibachs sagging, have you had any experience with this?
What are the best prices folks have found for the Tokico Illuminas? Just feels like a lot of money to me for not much benefit in terms of autocross handling.
I think the S-techs will be short lived. give me some time to look for it, and i can get it for you.
07-19-2005, 01:45 PM
#264
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IWNTMORPH
I sent you an e-mail because I couldn't get it to PM you. hopefully you received it, I just joined the site and can't get the PM to work.
I look forward to the response.
Any reponse from others on the best prices available for Illuminas?
I sent you an e-mail because I couldn't get it to PM you. hopefully you received it, I just joined the site and can't get the PM to work.
I look forward to the response.
Any reponse from others on the best prices available for Illuminas?
07-19-2005, 05:19 PM
#265
Originally Posted by BP
^ not accurate. if you use a spring with a mild drop (eibach / hr's) you can ride on stock SE struts for a good while without them blowing out.
"Stock" refers to a setup that is basic and interchangeable for all models, whether they be GXE, GLE, SE or whatever.
Used SE struts may handle the stress, but used GXE struts will not.
Even with SE struts, changing just the springs will lessen their life as compared to stock springs. That is what I have been told by a speed shop mechanic who has worked on Nissan cars for over 20 years.
I don't put much "stock" in anecdotal reports.
07-20-2005, 05:10 AM
#268
Originally Posted by ighettoboyi
Thanks for the support on this one at least someone who knows what they are talking about.
Originally Posted by ighettoboyi
do you want a prize or something?
No...just a retraction.
07-20-2005, 04:04 PM
#270
Originally Posted by ighettoboyi
you misquoted me my friend...i don't even know why you'd do that but you did 
What I quoted were your exact words, verbatim, and you did ask me a question (albeit a smart a** remark) regarding a conversation between myself and BP that did not involve you.
When you take a swipe at me by saying, "...at least someone who knows what they are talking about," in reference to BP's comment about my post, and followed that up with your dumb, "Do you want a prize or something?" and then act like, "What did I do?" speaks volumes about where you head is at.
And, it is not out in the sunshine.
07-20-2005, 05:00 PM
#271
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Originally Posted by dr-rjp
Scroll up, my friend.
What I quoted were your exact words, verbatim, and you did ask me a question (albeit a smart a** remark) regarding a conversation between myself and BP that did not involve you.
When you take a swipe at me by saying, "...at least someone who knows what they are talking about," in reference to BP's comment about my post, and followed that up with your dumb, "Do you want a prize or something?" and then act like, "What did I do?" speaks volumes about where you head is at.
And, it is not out in the sunshine.
What I quoted were your exact words, verbatim, and you did ask me a question (albeit a smart a** remark) regarding a conversation between myself and BP that did not involve you.
When you take a swipe at me by saying, "...at least someone who knows what they are talking about," in reference to BP's comment about my post, and followed that up with your dumb, "Do you want a prize or something?" and then act like, "What did I do?" speaks volumes about where you head is at.
And, it is not out in the sunshine.
did you not understand me? you MISQUOTED ME. I NEVER SAID THAT.are you sure you're not mistaking me with papasmurf....
someone needs to check where THEIR head is at. obviously it's up your @ss. and weren't YOU the one that was asking about suspension, milage, and then giving misinformation to people? toss my salad buddy
07-20-2005, 05:44 PM
#272
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Originally Posted by ighettoboyi
did you not understand me? you MISQUOTED ME. I NEVER SAID THAT.are you sure you're not mistaking me with papasmurf....
someone needs to check where THEIR head is at. obviously it's up your @ss. and weren't YOU the one that was asking about suspension, milage, and then giving misinformation to people? toss my salad buddy
Originally Posted by BP
^ not accurate. if you use a spring with a mild drop (eibach / hr's) you can ride on stock SE struts for a good while without them blowing out. there are several members, including myself, who have been on lowering springs with stock struts for a while with no problems.
all struts will blow out at some point. but there are several who've upgraded their struts along with the springs and still blow the aftermarket struts.
^ not accurate. if you use a spring with a mild drop (eibach / hr's) you can ride on stock SE struts for a good while without them blowing out. there are several members, including myself, who have been on lowering springs with stock struts for a while with no problems.
all struts will blow out at some point. but there are several who've upgraded their struts along with the springs and still blow the aftermarket struts.
07-23-2005, 11:34 AM
#275
Originally Posted by MadMax2K3
Going H&R w/Illuminas in a week - researched like crazy and it'll be a good fit for my driving habits...mildly agressive and somewhat lengthly commute on LA roads.
Murph, the Tein H-Techs are the only spring that will keep the rear a little bit higher than the front, especially with our maxes and the way that our wheel wells are shaped. The rear always looks lower than the front. Whatever the case is, touch base when you are ready to get it done and I'll have my guys do you up.
By the way, fix your home page. It sends viewers to Yahoo.com We want to see your cardomain site.
07-24-2005, 04:45 PM
#276
ok...here's the rates everyone was asking about...someone take the next step and cross refrence this with the drops listed and the feedback from people who have used them and maybe through some flawed analysis, we can figure out what we're each looking for.
Progress: 165-250 front; 179-285 rear (Progressive Rate)
Vogtland: 134-194 front; 205-377 rear (Progressive Rate)
Eibach: 140-189 front; 194-346 rear (Progressive Rate)
Tein H: 3.2mm/kg front; 5.1mm/kg rear anyone figure this one out? (Linear)
Tein S: 3.6mm/kg front; 4.8mm/kg rear (Linear)
Canuck Motorsports: 125 front; 320 rear "10-15% stiffer than stock" (Linear)
Megan Racing: 280 front; 230 rear (Linear)
H&R: "25-30% Stiffer than Stock" (Progressive) (That helps! Thanks guys!)
Stock SE: HTFK!?!
Maxspeed: No info. Made by ADR
Sprint: No info. Refused to give rates. Dissed several other companies and was an overall *******.
Drop Zone: Couldn't find any info.
I am missing a few, but these are the ones I was able to find. I have ordered a set of B&G's and Vogtlands and Tein S techs. I will eventually be testing these on my 2002 6 speed with illuminas and a STB and RSB. Anyone with feedback from the others listed please post up! Hope this helps. Maybe some others can fill in the blanks.
Progress: 165-250 front; 179-285 rear (Progressive Rate)
Vogtland: 134-194 front; 205-377 rear (Progressive Rate)
Eibach: 140-189 front; 194-346 rear (Progressive Rate)
Tein H: 3.2mm/kg front; 5.1mm/kg rear anyone figure this one out? (Linear)
Tein S: 3.6mm/kg front; 4.8mm/kg rear (Linear)
Canuck Motorsports: 125 front; 320 rear "10-15% stiffer than stock" (Linear)
Megan Racing: 280 front; 230 rear (Linear)
H&R: "25-30% Stiffer than Stock" (Progressive) (That helps! Thanks guys!)
Stock SE: HTFK!?!
Maxspeed: No info. Made by ADR
Sprint: No info. Refused to give rates. Dissed several other companies and was an overall *******.
Drop Zone: Couldn't find any info.
I am missing a few, but these are the ones I was able to find. I have ordered a set of B&G's and Vogtlands and Tein S techs. I will eventually be testing these on my 2002 6 speed with illuminas and a STB and RSB. Anyone with feedback from the others listed please post up! Hope this helps. Maybe some others can fill in the blanks.
07-24-2005, 04:58 PM
#278
that is what i have heard also, but there is only one spring rate given which from my research in speaking with the different reps from Vogtland, Sprint, Eibach, and H&R...every one said the same thing: If there is only one rate listed, it is a linear rate spring. There should be an initial rate and a final rate (basically just before spring bind) to be a progressive spring. Take the time and look for the rates and see what you find. I welcome any corrections you come up with, but make them based on fact not hearsay please. I want to keep this as close to clear cut as possible and not dilute it with "I heard...", and "I think..." Thanks.
