Hello all,

I have had my warpspeed y-pipe, b-pipe, over the axel, and muffler for 8 months and here are the problems I have had:

1)Y-pipe fitment is terrible. In order to make it fit I had to put a crush in my b-pipe to stop the banging. Only other option was removing cross member which I am not willing to do

2)Muffler Dallas sold me is beginning to rust out after about 8 months and it has never seen salt! Is rusting out from the inside along with the tip he gave me.

I have contacted Dallas several times, sent emails containing pictures, and follow up emails and he blew me off. I told him the flex section was under WAY too much pressure. Now my flex section is getting louder and louder. The only way we can help people is to warn them about Warpspeed issues and that Dallas does not care. After he sells you the product don't expect customer service. I am NOT trying to smear Dallas in any way but I have lost hundreds of dollars in custom exhaust shop labor time alone because of him and I don't want others to make the same mistake! BTW: 2 Different custom exhaust shops told me I got robbed and the y-pipe needs to be thrown away because it is not made to fit properly! Doubt Dallas will ever reconcile by either fixing our pipes or refunding money but this will at least warn others about the fitment issues.

Please add you personal issues below and thanks for contributing.

Mark

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33631

Check out their new "flex section" improved model. Looks like finally someone took the aproach Honda took with their exhaust system and provided a flex joint in the exhaust system. I never seen one of these leak on a Honda, and I work on ALOT of Hondas ( I'm a Acura tech ).

 

"Need more power for your Nissan Maxima but don't want to buy cheap imported crap from China or Canada" What the hell is this supposed to mean? Our cars are japanese not chinese stupid!

Nice how he listened to what people told him, changed the flex section, and said screw you to everybody else who has problems huh? Great business practices. Maybe we can get enough people to join together and approach him about helping us out. Doubt it but it is worth a shot.

 

I bought my SS Y-Pipe off a fellow org member who couldnt install it because he has a cali spec. Anyways, I put it on last night the fit was just a little tight but I got it on less than 5 minutes. I start my car and all I hear is rattling from the dang thing, it is annoying/embarrasing but im going to keep it on because it is only when I am sitting idle in Reverse or Drive. Other than that I am happy with my product but it can definately be made better.

 

wait until a hard launch when the rattle turns into a violent Bang.

 

Here is my thread that I started because of problems that Warpspeed gives, but will not fix. Anyone that decides to buy from Warpspeed will most likely have these same type of fitment problems.

Here is the link to my thread. Hopefully it will provide enough information to convince you guys that the numerous problems are not worth it.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=359995

 

Ever since I got my Maxima, I have lurked around this board to gain new knowledge about my car. I wandered into the Group Buy section of this board and stumbled into a tempting thread that was offering a group buy for Warpspeed Performance Y-pipes for $160 shipped. That price was so tempting and I decided to give them a call. I got a hold of Dallas soon after. I talked to him for about 10-15 minutes and he seemed like a very knowledgable guy. He told me that the B-pipe will add more power than the Y-pipe, due to the fact the newer stock Y-pipes are not as restrictive as the ones in the eariler generation Maximas. So I gave in, and I purchased a Y and B-pipe from him for $325 shipped. After almost a week, I still have not received my order, so I decided to give him another call. Dallas said that he had them boxed up and he will be shipping them out that day. It seemed to me that he just simply forgot. The pipes were at my house the next day via Fedex because his shop is only about 2-3 hours away from where I live. Here are some pictures of the numerous problems:

The first problem could be seen here. They are 2 O2 sensor bungs in the Y-pipe. I didn't realize that my car only had one O2 sensor in the Y-pipe, so I was surprised to find this information out when I was already done uninstalling the stock Y-pipe. I called him a couple days later and he said that one of his workers got confused and drilled a O2 bung from a 2002-2003 and another bung for an eariler generation Maxima into the same Y-pipe! The vertical flange of the WSP Y-pipe is crooked also, and it does not sit completely level with the upper part of the exhaust manifold. I am just glad it doesn't leak. He said that he would send me another Y-pipe, but I haven't seen it in 2 months.

Here is the first hanger for the B-pipe that Warpspeed sent me. It didn't fit at all.

The second hanger he sent me, which is even worse than the first!

The temporary fix until welding day.

The cause of the metal-to-metal banging noise.


My car would rattle every time I put it in reverse and went over bumps the first day I installed it. The B-pipe would bang against the crossmember when I hit WOT due to the wrong design of the Y-pipe. It took me a week to completely fix all these frustrating and annoying problems. I just welded the B-pipe together and welded a new hanger on there instead of using the non-fitting ones that he provided me with. I also temporally removed the crossmember in order to stop the banging noise at WOT. The problems are a cause of bad quality and carelessness. Please think twice about buying Warpspeed Performance products. I don't think all these problems were worth it for the low price. I have learned a big lesson from this, which everyone has heard before...You get what you pay for. If you don't to deal with these problems, then get a higher quality product.

 

I 2 have called and emailed about the fitment of my Warpspeed y-pipe, but have yet to have Dallas call back or get a reply to my email other than the thank you for emailing...blah, blah we will get back to you that is sent automatically. I think I will start calling again. I have been putting up with the banging for a while and I need to get this thing fixed. THe shop that installed the pipe had a hell of a time getting it in. I almost ordered the B-pipe, but now will look somewhere else. Save your money and buy another brand that has some kinda customer service, and that fits!

 

keep em coming guys. Power lies in numbers and I bet if we get enough people together and all send him emails he has to listen. Just keep looking back at this thread now and then. We all want a solution and none of us wants to waste any more money so it is worth a shot..

 

I had my first y-pipe from warpseed with the same fitrment issue. It would bang loudly when I took off from a light and rattled and caused vibration in the cabin at drive sitting at alight. I called and spoke to Dallas and he agreed to send me out a new pipe. I got my new pipe, had it installed and everything is fine. the new pipe has no fitment issues and I love the performance. The only complaint I have is that I had to pay for the reinstall of the new pipe and to this date Dallas has not returned a call back to me about a reimbursment. I gave up hope on that. Good part though, when it is properly put together.

 

I agree with your point stating that it is a "good" part IF it is properly made, but how much trouble did it take to make fit right? It took me an entire week of "customizing", which I strongly believe, is not needed if a quality "bolt-on" part was used. Don't get me wrong, I love the performance gain and sound now, but if I could do it again, I would go with higher-quality parts.

 

Wow... all these issues and WS has the nerve to bash its domestic and foreign competitors on its website.... pitiful.... I mean, that is one of the reasons why I avoid buying from them in the first place... but the fact that they can't even make parts to stand by is even worse....

 

miserable company with fair products. Warpspeed might have the worse coustom service of ANY company I have ever done any sort of business with.

 

Well for now only part I have from them is their test pipe- and it fit somewhat good. The new Ypipe caught my eye, as I just sold my headers and might end up buying another set after Xmas. Friend offered me alot of $$$ for the headers and I just gave in... having a Cattman Ypipe thats been through like 6 diff redesigns by myself and its about 3.5 years old, on the car now sucks. I'm thinking of selling my Greddy for FrankenCar catback or possibly Cattman, but I have a very big grudge against Cattman now.

 

I am hoping if we all send him emails on the same day or refer him to this thread he may want to helpo us out in working out an exchange program for our y-pipes. He obviously seems like he has fixed the problem because he has new flex sections. It is just of matter of showing him that the maxima guys will not be simply blown off if he wants to keep any kind of a decent reputation in the maxima community.

 

I guess I should be glad that I bought the Cattman Y-pipe. Although I had a slight alignment issue at first, I havent had any problems so far.

 

So far who wants in on the email to Dallas? Either we can do one mass email or seperate emails? Please list your names...

 

Dallas doesn't care, and he won't do anything for you. It's been proven in th epast that he will not help you, or address your concerns...

 

Either people can sit and b*tch about what they "think" they know Dallas will do or we can try it and if we fail there is nothing lost. You don't have the right to b*tch if you don't try something out.

 

I just want to say goodluck, and I appreciate everyone who has taken their time out to start this because you know what? Even if he doesnt do anything, these guys have convinced a fellow org member to not get ripped off. For that I appreciate what they are doing. If you dont have anything to say regarding the point of this thread then do not POST!

 

A while back I ordered a 2.5in warpspeed b pipe. Dallas told me they were a little behind and he would get it out the following week. So I waited....and waited....and waited. Over three weeks later I called him back and he said that they had it made and they were shipping it out the next day. The same thing went on for two months and finally I got my b pipe. I go the following day to Grand Muffler and gave it to the guy to install and when he put it up to see how the match was he laughed. The fitment he said was horrible. He ended up cutting pipe in more than six places and some of the pipe was either thrown away and the rest had to be rebent. I ended up paying 180 for the pipes and then another 120 in labor and extra parts for Grand Muffler to fix warpspeed's crappy a$$ b pipe. So think twice before you buy something from warpspeed and spend a little more money on something like cattman products.

 

Why don't you register warpspeedsucks.com or something and create a complaints forum there? That tends to get their attention.

 

Thanks,

That is why I started this thread, not to bash Dallas. I am trying to turn this all into a positive by sending him an email so he sees first hand the damage mutiple misfitting products can cause. Everybody deserves one last chance to make things right. I just hope when it comes time to send the email people don't run away

 

He sent me the wrong $hit, twice, I called and email him litterally like 20 times, then one saturday afternoon I called and had some "choice" words, I got a response within 20mins because he wanted me to apologize. Well, we settled everyone problems, but lets be honest thats no way to conduct business

 

As blunt of an approach as that is, maybe everyone else should try it since we now know he responds to that.... heh heh....

 

look, some people had success with dallas, and overs like me, got totally d!cked over by him.

Everyone is entitled to express their take on the matter. I was one of his first customers for the ypipe for the 02. He promised my a replacement, and then he blew it off and changed his mind. He is a real strange and shady character, and you know, if he wanted to do buisness the right way, he would've addressed issues time and time again instead of being complacent about the whole thing.

This thread isn't a new topic, it's been over a year and half- 2 years dallas and warpspeed been offering their bs, and never addressed their issue. I'm surprised he even finds repeat customers if alot of his clientelle was from thsi site. Enough people complained, but perhaps it's because the search function is a pay only feature : /

When i sold the piece of junk y pipe, hell with shipping costs it ended up being that i got 20 bucks back, and hell, the bpipe i couldn't even give away. I let my mechanic throw it out.

 

Yup... I've been on here less than a year and I've heard enough crap about WS to avoid their products... I also checked out their website myself and didn't come away too happy. I have to admit that I was tempted by the prices, but I think it was Ice2k1 who advised me against it, among others. Forked out the extra money to get myself a Cattman y-pipe....

 

should I email him the link? Think a moderator will sticky this?

 

mdloops;

I really think he can care less, but sure go ahead. If he actually becomes irrated insulted rather then concerned, it's a true statement about their customer service. I would hope for his sake he got his act together, but sometimes things never change.

 

You are right. He probably wouldn't even care. He's got our money already, so...

 

I ordered a WSP 2.5" resonated "B" pipe Dec 2003. I had it shipped to my muffler shop in Mass and it showed up in 4 working days. The muffler shop installed it in 10-15 minutes with no problems. I have been through two New England winters with this pipe with no sign of rust. The only "problem" i had was a streched out factory rubber hanger causing my "b" pipe to rub when extrmely cold out. I fixed the rubbing/vibration problem by installing a stronger $3.00 rubber hanger. I am very pleased with the WSP "B" pipe.

 

ISn't it worth a shot though? All that is going to happen is he will prove to the ENTIRE maxima.org forum all he cares about is taking your money right?

 

It is mostly the design of the Y-pipe that is causing most of the problems. The WSP y-pipe makes the B-pipe, either stock or aftermarket, hang too low, thus hitting the crossmember and causing rattles.

 

I wish all this was available before I went in on the second group deal for these. I had to remove my crossmember completly and still I am trying to come up with a inexpensive fix. Salt should be hitting the roads here soon so I'll keep an eye on that too. As for the Honda flex sections they suck too. Now granted it takes anywhere from 80,000 to 100,000 miles but they almost all crack. I'm an ex-ricer and a Honda mechanic and we installed alot of b-pipes. Like I said though 80-100,000 miles is better than most will ever see from aftermarket flex. I had a AWD Talon with a downpipe from Extreme Motorsports which uses a flex section from big rig trucks (sounds rediculous I know) but the design is far superior to the braid lined sections were getting. Remember cost was low and Dallas could just shutdown and re-appear under a new name if the heat get too high.