Advance Timing: Step by Step Instructions with Consult 2 Tool
I have a newbish question. In the VERY LONG thread about advancing the Max's timing, several people provided conflicting information about whether this mod would stick after an ECU reset.
I know that the 5th gen will retain its adjusted timing settings (unlike the 4th gen), and I know that disconnecting the battery will NOT wipe the timing settings. What I don't know is whether or not performing the ECU reset procedure listed in the stickies will wipe the timing adjustment. I had to do it on my car to clear an SES light a few days ago.
I know that the 5th gen will retain its adjusted timing settings (unlike the 4th gen), and I know that disconnecting the battery will NOT wipe the timing settings. What I don't know is whether or not performing the ECU reset procedure listed in the stickies will wipe the timing adjustment. I had to do it on my car to clear an SES light a few days ago.
Originally Posted by spiromax
I have a newbish question. In the VERY LONG thread about advancing the Max's timing, several people provided conflicting information about whether this mod would stick after an ECU reset.
I know that the 5th gen will retain its adjusted timing settings (unlike the 4th gen), and I know that disconnecting the battery will NOT wipe the timing settings. What I don't know is whether or not performing the ECU reset procedure listed in the stickies will wipe the timing adjustment. I had to do it on my car to clear an SES light a few days ago.
I know that the 5th gen will retain its adjusted timing settings (unlike the 4th gen), and I know that disconnecting the battery will NOT wipe the timing settings. What I don't know is whether or not performing the ECU reset procedure listed in the stickies will wipe the timing adjustment. I had to do it on my car to clear an SES light a few days ago.
Originally Posted by scopium
anyone got a consult II i can borrow.. for a couple of days.. to do the timing advance?
no dealer here is willing to do it
i'll pay for the shipping charge
no dealer here is willing to do it
i'll pay for the shipping charge
or "buy it now" on ebay for $6500
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW
don't ask the "dealer" to do it....go find a tech out back of the dealership smoking a cigarette and slip him some cash to do it. The service managers will NOT do it for you....find a tech, bring him the instructions at the beginnning of this thread, and he'll be happy to make $30-40 cash for 5 minutes of work.
Originally Posted by E55AMG2
Ive seen them go for considerably less than that...
even if they went for $1500, how many people here would buy one? Not many. It's easier to pay a tech $30 to do it, unless you plan on using it ALOT!!
Originally Posted by irish44j
even if they went for $1500, how many people here would buy one? Not many. It's easier to pay a tech $30 to do it, unless you plan on using it ALOT!!
Originally Posted by irish44j
even if they went for $1500, how many people here would buy one? Not many. It's easier to pay a tech $30 to do it, unless you plan on using it ALOT!!http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?p=3034605
Originally Posted by maxilvr06
if only i COULD pay a tech $30 to do it! where i live, the lowest of 4 dealers (including an infiniti dealer, which btw, said they could do it on a nissan) was $78....i'm just gonna wait and see if i get more mods so that it'll help more and will make the 'most' of my money...
Like I said, go around the back of the garage, or catch one of the "real" mechanics/techs (not the service managers) out back taking a smoke break or taking a car out...then slip him some cash and have him do it "off the books" (i.e. no receipt or anything).....
Originally Posted by theMax
Like buy one and go to maxus!
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?p=3034605
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?p=3034605
Originally Posted by irish44j
$78?? You are obviously asking at the service desk (to one of the service team managers), right?
Like I said, go around the back of the garage, or catch one of the "real" mechanics/techs (not the service managers) out back taking a smoke break or taking a car out...then slip him some cash and have him do it "off the books" (i.e. no receipt or anything).....
Like I said, go around the back of the garage, or catch one of the "real" mechanics/techs (not the service managers) out back taking a smoke break or taking a car out...then slip him some cash and have him do it "off the books" (i.e. no receipt or anything).....
Originally Posted by theMax
Like buy one and go to maxus!
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?p=3034605
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?p=3034605
Originally Posted by maxilvr06
hmm...couldn't that potentially result in that tech getting fired or given other consequences?? ..
of course, the techs know how to do things on the "down low" for some cash...
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my dealer is open. didnt have to be sneaky about it or anything. kindly gave me a print out of the before and after settings with my receipt and errthang. this dealer that i went to, i'd never gone to before, they use tire dressing! i was impressed!
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no, nothing should happen. you're just gonna not be able to take advantage of the advanced timing settings......your knock sensor will retard everything until you get good gas
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Originally Posted by ighettoboyi
my dealer is open. didnt have to be sneaky about it or anything. kindly gave me a print out of the before and after settings with my receipt and errthang. this dealer that i went to, i'd never gone to before, they use tire dressing! i was impressed!
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Originally Posted by JB 20th Ann'y
Thanks, I'm gonna look into this. I'm about to change out the plugs and look into some other things as far as tune-up goes as well, would it matter if I did the advance before or after the tune-up?
anyone with a lead to a nissan tech. in New jersey who does this?
I visited my stealership (Hightstown Nissan) and the manager told me they couldnt do it and if they did it would reset.....
I told them ......... and when they were able to performe mech. on my car as i request, i would bring it in, but until then i would only be buying parts..
I visited my stealership (Hightstown Nissan) and the manager told me they couldnt do it and if they did it would reset.....
I told them ......... and when they were able to performe mech. on my car as i request, i would bring it in, but until then i would only be buying parts..
I had a tech check it out at the dealership and it was at 15. Thats kinda weird. Maybe TS does all their timing changes directly on the ignition map and doesnt mess with that. I had them push it up to 17 and as far as I can tell there is no pinging. I will have to look up some sound files for pinging to see if maybe I am not listening for the right thing. However I really dont hear anything that sounds like a knock or a ping. I even specifically went to a rather steep hill and went up it in 3rd gear at 2100rpm and halfway through gave about 3/4 throttle... nothing. If I am not getting any ping then that kind of proves that TS really is hedging their bets on the timing advance. Of course they only recommend 91+ and I always run 93 though.
Bgates: they retained the KS function, so if it detects slight pinging (which we cant hear) it will select a less agressive timing map. TS did in fact make a more agressive map, but only at WOT and beyond 3800rpm (vias changeover point).
Ighetto: TS doesnt touch the base timing, reason being is that there has been no proof to show that there are gains made by doing it. Members on this board have said so, however have not shown any proof of such. Please dont comment on things you havent researched thoroughly
Ighetto: TS doesnt touch the base timing, reason being is that there has been no proof to show that there are gains made by doing it. Members on this board have said so, however have not shown any proof of such. Please dont comment on things you havent researched thoroughly
Originally Posted by ighettoboyi
don't they say they adjust the ignition? that's actually what they told me when I emailed......so much for researching huh?




