Wow, we really set the CL-S guys off!!
05-18-2001, 02:11 PM
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Originally posted by Kevin
Ok I'm assuming 27,000 out the door after taxes and license and fees etc, with all the mods that y2KEv listed, they total to about ~$4500. So the Max SE, with 27,000 + 4,500 = 31,500. With all those, what kind of HP 0-60, and 1/4 times would you expect to see with the maxima??
My CL-Type S is was ~$30,000 (+/-$100) out the door after taxes license fees etc etc. I got every option ( including spoiler) except for Navigation system. ( Nav system was an extra $2k, not worth it IMO) The best times I've seen documented for a stock CL-S is: 0-60 in 6.4 and the 1/4 mile in about 14.8 secs.
I'd really like to know what the performance of the modded maxima would be.
Ok I'm assuming 27,000 out the door after taxes and license and fees etc, with all the mods that y2KEv listed, they total to about ~$4500. So the Max SE, with 27,000 + 4,500 = 31,500. With all those, what kind of HP 0-60, and 1/4 times would you expect to see with the maxima??
My CL-Type S is was ~$30,000 (+/-$100) out the door after taxes license fees etc etc. I got every option ( including spoiler) except for Navigation system. ( Nav system was an extra $2k, not worth it IMO) The best times I've seen documented for a stock CL-S is: 0-60 in 6.4 and the 1/4 mile in about 14.8 secs.
I'd really like to know what the performance of the modded maxima would be.
05-18-2001, 02:14 PM
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Well if all we are looking for is the fastest car, give me a 1.8t golf and 10k to mod with. I'm sure I'd have both cars beaten in handling and acceleration/speed. There are compromises in every car. If you throw all that money into a max, you still won't have navigation and a triptronic (sp?) tranny and who knows what other luxury features. I personally would prefer a max but any way you slice it they are both good cars.
05-18-2001, 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by punkdork
Well if all we are looking for is the fastest car, give me a 1.8t golf and 10k to mod with. I'm sure I'd have both cars beaten in handling and acceleration/speed. There are compromises in every car. If you throw all that money into a max, you still won't have navigation and a triptronic (sp?) tranny and who knows what other luxury features. I personally would prefer a max but any way you slice it they are both good cars.
Well if all we are looking for is the fastest car, give me a 1.8t golf and 10k to mod with. I'm sure I'd have both cars beaten in handling and acceleration/speed. There are compromises in every car. If you throw all that money into a max, you still won't have navigation and a triptronic (sp?) tranny and who knows what other luxury features. I personally would prefer a max but any way you slice it they are both good cars.
05-18-2001, 02:29 PM
#84
Originally posted by PhatGuy
1.8T golf isn't the same class of car. VW also has the worst warranty in the industry. The specific thread and issue here is CL-S vs Maxima 2K1 AE (I say use the 5pd for comparison). Sorry the Maxima has the CL-S beat easily for the same money spent and nobody can dispute that.
1.8T golf isn't the same class of car. VW also has the worst warranty in the industry. The specific thread and issue here is CL-S vs Maxima 2K1 AE (I say use the 5pd for comparison). Sorry the Maxima has the CL-S beat easily for the same money spent and nobody can dispute that.
I test drove both and, personally, believe the Max is a better investment. However, I didn't need the nav system (I know my way home
) and absolutely must have a 5-speed in a performance vehicle. I'm also mostly bothered by the refinements in the CL-S...it takes away from the muscle of the vehicle...I like the simple interior of the AE. The Max feels meaner!!!! That's what I wanted in this 4DSC...not a soft version of a sports car. You are, however, paying extra for a reason when you buy the CL-S.
05-18-2001, 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by PhatGuy
1.8T golf isn't the same class of car. VW also has the worst warranty in the industry. The specific thread and issue here is CL-S vs Maxima 2K1 AE (I say use the 5pd for comparison). Sorry the Maxima has the CL-S beat easily for the same money spent and nobody can dispute that.
1.8T golf isn't the same class of car. VW also has the worst warranty in the industry. The specific thread and issue here is CL-S vs Maxima 2K1 AE (I say use the 5pd for comparison). Sorry the Maxima has the CL-S beat easily for the same money spent and nobody can dispute that.
05-18-2001, 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by Michael98033
I'm afraid I can't completely agree with you. I think you're mostly focussing on performance and in that area you are correct, but the extra few G's that you spend on the CL-S does get you a car that, inside, feels more luxurious and has slightly more refined appointments. Also, the nav system is not available on the Max and to install it with the refinement of the system in the CL-S, you'd have to spend mucho-$$$ to prevent your dash looking like a piece of $hit.
I test drove both and, personally, believe the Max is a better investment. However, I didn't need the nav system (I know my way home) and absolutely must have a 5-speed in a performance vehicle. I'm also mostly bothered by the refinements in the CL-S...it takes away from the muscle of the vehicle...I like the simple interior of the AE. The Max feels meaner!!!! That's what I wanted in this 4DSC...not a soft version of a sports car. You are, however, paying extra for a reason when you buy the CL-S.
I'm afraid I can't completely agree with you. I think you're mostly focussing on performance and in that area you are correct, but the extra few G's that you spend on the CL-S does get you a car that, inside, feels more luxurious and has slightly more refined appointments. Also, the nav system is not available on the Max and to install it with the refinement of the system in the CL-S, you'd have to spend mucho-$$$ to prevent your dash looking like a piece of $hit.
I test drove both and, personally, believe the Max is a better investment. However, I didn't need the nav system (I know my way home
) and absolutely must have a 5-speed in a performance vehicle. I'm also mostly bothered by the refinements in the CL-S...it takes away from the muscle of the vehicle...I like the simple interior of the AE. The Max feels meaner!!!! That's what I wanted in this 4DSC...not a soft version of a sports car. You are, however, paying extra for a reason when you buy the CL-S.
05-18-2001, 02:45 PM
#87
Originally posted by PhatGuy
The Nav system on the CL-S is even another $2000US over the 30-31K with the car in question. Ya this is all about performance which I will say again would "DESTROY" a comparable priced CL-S on the track/street! Remember also all the cosmetic upgrades on our "Modded Out Max"....Stillen body kit...lights in and out.....springs (looks and performance there).... sweet brushed alum dash kit...extra Amp with extra sub(s). Not even the same car you now have a sweet original Ride versus a stock CL-S. and the main issue of this whole thread was perfomance. CL-S is a "nice" car but cannot touch the Max at the same bang for the buck!
The Nav system on the CL-S is even another $2000US over the 30-31K with the car in question. Ya this is all about performance which I will say again would "DESTROY" a comparable priced CL-S on the track/street! Remember also all the cosmetic upgrades on our "Modded Out Max"....Stillen body kit...lights in and out.....springs (looks and performance there).... sweet brushed alum dash kit...extra Amp with extra sub(s). Not even the same car you now have a sweet original Ride versus a stock CL-S. and the main issue of this whole thread was perfomance. CL-S is a "nice" car but cannot touch the Max at the same bang for the buck!
05-18-2001, 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
Yup, just dump $4K for a SC (like DMan) and you'll definitely blow away a CL-S (performance-wise).
Yup, just dump $4K for a SC (like DMan) and you'll definitely blow away a CL-S (performance-wise).
05-18-2001, 08:30 PM
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Originally posted by Michael98033
First off, I would guess (purely speculation) that a 5-speed with Kev's modifications would blow those times away, however...
Where did you get the 6.4 time on the CL-S. I believe the 14.8...C&D gave it a 15.1. 6.4 is pretty fast considering the 6.9 that I saw in C&D. I suppose manually shifting the auto tranny you could make for a better time than otherwise, but .5 seconds seems to be a lot of time to drop on an automatic with just driving ability. Maybe not...but then again...I've only ever purchased one automatic tranny vehicle.
First off, I would guess (purely speculation) that a 5-speed with Kev's modifications would blow those times away, however...
Where did you get the 6.4 time on the CL-S. I believe the 14.8...C&D gave it a 15.1. 6.4 is pretty fast considering the 6.9 that I saw in C&D. I suppose manually shifting the auto tranny you could make for a better time than otherwise, but .5 seconds seems to be a lot of time to drop on an automatic with just driving ability. Maybe not...but then again...I've only ever purchased one automatic tranny vehicle.
05-18-2001, 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by PhatGuy
The Nav system on the CL-S is even another $2000US over the 30-31K with the car in question. Ya this is all about performance which I will say again would "DESTROY" a comparable priced CL-S on the track/street! Remember also all the cosmetic upgrades on our "Modded Out Max"....Stillen body kit...lights in and out.....springs (looks and performance there).... sweet brushed alum dash kit...extra Amp with extra sub(s). Not even the same car you now have a sweet original Ride versus a stock CL-S. and the main issue of this whole thread was perfomance. CL-S is a "nice" car but cannot touch the Max at the same bang for the buck!
The Nav system on the CL-S is even another $2000US over the 30-31K with the car in question. Ya this is all about performance which I will say again would "DESTROY" a comparable priced CL-S on the track/street! Remember also all the cosmetic upgrades on our "Modded Out Max"....Stillen body kit...lights in and out.....springs (looks and performance there).... sweet brushed alum dash kit...extra Amp with extra sub(s). Not even the same car you now have a sweet original Ride versus a stock CL-S. and the main issue of this whole thread was perfomance. CL-S is a "nice" car but cannot touch the Max at the same bang for the buck!
05-18-2001, 09:50 PM
#92
Originally posted by Kevin
True, but forget $$$ for a second. Mod for mod , I don't think the MAxima has a chance..... :grin:
True, but forget $$$ for a second. Mod for mod , I don't think the MAxima has a chance..... :grin:
05-18-2001, 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
Of course the Max doesn't because the CL-S still has it's hp advantage. I put on intake, you put on intake. I change my exhaust, you change you exhaust....... this can keep going until one car can get a mod while the other can't because it's not available yet.
Of course the Max doesn't because the CL-S still has it's hp advantage. I put on intake, you put on intake. I change my exhaust, you change you exhaust....... this can keep going until one car can get a mod while the other can't because it's not available yet.
05-19-2001, 12:00 AM
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Re: Funny thing is...
Originally posted by EZ
...the fastest Max is waaaaaaay faster than the fastest CLS.
...the fastest Max is waaaaaaay faster than the fastest CLS.
05-19-2001, 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by Kevin
True, but forget $$$ for a second. Mod for mod , I don't think the MAxima has a chance..... :grin:
True, but forget $$$ for a second. Mod for mod , I don't think the MAxima has a chance..... :grin:
05-19-2001, 04:01 PM
#101
Originally posted by PhatGuy
You haven't driven a 5spd 2K1 AE have you? How about you line your CL-S up against someone who has a 5spd 2K1. There are tons of members all across North America.....what city are you in? Do a couple of runs and see how you guys do?
You haven't driven a 5spd 2K1 AE have you? How about you line your CL-S up against someone who has a 5spd 2K1. There are tons of members all across North America.....what city are you in? Do a couple of runs and see how you guys do?
Who knows...it would certainly have the power advantage as it does stock, but the Max would still have the 5-speed.
05-20-2001, 11:43 AM
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I guess we'll never know until we get both cars fully souped up an race em. In anycase by the time I can get money for those mods they'll probably have a 6-sp CL out( I'll probably trade in if they do come out with a 6-sp.)
And Phatguy, I live in NJ and I'm willing to do a few races with anyone with a 5-sp 5th gen maxima, I think it would be cool to see how these cars stack up againest each other.
And Phatguy, I live in NJ and I'm willing to do a few races with anyone with a 5-sp 5th gen maxima, I think it would be cool to see how these cars stack up againest each other.
05-20-2001, 12:24 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Funny thing is...
Originally posted by Y2KevSE
Are you sure about that? 
Are you sure about that?
Who knows...I guess this post could gone forever and ever....
Kev, that Stillen bodykit you have on your Max, they did a hell of a better job with the 5th gen kit then the 4th gen kit. never liked the side pieces on the 4th gen kit. I was looking at your page, how come you didnt get you TCM done by the dealer?
05-21-2001, 06:48 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Funny thing is...
Originally posted by Kevin
Who knows...I guess this post could gone forever and ever....
Kev, that Stillen bodykit you have on your Max, they did a hell of a better job with the 5th gen kit then the 4th gen kit. never liked the side pieces on the 4th gen kit. I was looking at your page, how come you didnt get you TCM done by the dealer?
Who knows...I guess this post could gone forever and ever....
Kev, that Stillen bodykit you have on your Max, they did a hell of a better job with the 5th gen kit then the 4th gen kit. never liked the side pieces on the 4th gen kit. I was looking at your page, how come you didnt get you TCM done by the dealer?
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