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Old 07-07-2005, 06:31 AM
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Well, I installed this mod and have put about 75-100 miles on it. It's already collecting a substantial amount of oil. The hose going back to the IM has a bit of oil residue in it. It still looks clean compared to the hose going to the separator. I was under the impression that this would completely eliminate the oil going into the IM. Regardless, I haven't noticed any improvements with my pinging problem. Maybe I need to give it some more time. Should I run some sea foam through the system to clean out the IM?

Yeah, give it some time. Mine did not immediately go away.
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Yeah, give it some time. Mine did not immediately go away.
Did you get any MPG increase from the setup ? I would think if the gas isn't contaminated with the oil vapors with the catch can setup, you should have eliminated pinging for the most part and gained some MPG, right!!
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Old 07-07-2005, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Love_00_Max
Did you get any MPG increase from the setup ? I would think if the gas isn't contaminated with the oil vapors with the catch can setup, you should have eliminated pinging for the most part and gained some MPG, right!!
Didn't notice any MPG gain. The catch can catches the oil and any gas vapor that drops out. My catch can smells of strong gas fumes when I empty it.
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Old 07-07-2005, 08:13 AM
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Didn't notice any MPG gain. The catch can catches the oil and any gas vapor that drops out. My catch can smells of strong gas fumes when I empty it.
I would be inclined to go for the setup but for one thing though, how often do you have to drain the can.

I am not inclined to open the hood every 2 weeks to drain it becoz if I do forget inadvertently and the engine could overheat/explode since the high pressure in the engine won't be relieved via the PCV valve.
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Old 07-07-2005, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 2002 Maxima SE
How did everyone's catch can install go?
Install went smoothly. Replaced my straight hose fittings with 90 degree ones to stop the hoses from kinking up. The inlet hose still has a tendency to slight collapse. That's not a great concern though. I think I might have noticed a decrease in my ping.. but it's probably in my head. My concern is that the clear hose I have going from the separator (catch can) to the IM has a considerable amount of oil residue in it. So, yes it's doing the job because I'm collecting oil but there must still be a lot passing by. I'm thinking about cutting the bottom of the filter off that came with the separator and installing that. This would possibly cause a bit more turbulence inside the device and possibly separate more oil. I’ve read that some people place steel wool inside the catch can to really increase the turbulence. That sounds kind of dangerous though. I wouldn’t want my engine ingesting any of that. Thanks for the help so far. Any other suggestions?
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Originally Posted by Love_00_Max
I would be inclined to go for the setup but for one thing though, how often do you have to drain the can.

I am not inclined to open the hood every 2 weeks to drain it becoz if I do forget inadvertently and the engine could overheat/explode since the high pressure in the engine won't be relieved via the PCV valve.

I think if you're installing the separator that is sold at Home Depot and Lowes then the checking and emptying of the oil is going to be more frequent. This is due to the fact that the container that holds the oil is considerably smaller than the actual catch cans designed for your vehicle. It probably requires a peek everytime you fill up your gas tank. I have yet to empty mine.
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Old 07-23-2005, 10:33 PM
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where does the second hose go to? one comes out from the im and goes to the catch can and the the hose goes from the catch can but where does it hook up o nthe vq35 at? pics would be helpfull. thanks
 
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i want something purdy but they tend to cost a bit more.. hrmm.... sounds like a time for a group buy?
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Old 07-24-2005, 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by vsamoylov

where does the second hose go to? one comes out from the im and goes to the catch can and the the hose goes from the catch can but where does it hook up o nthe vq35 at? pics would be helpfull. thanks
The second hose goes to the PCV (just below the IM inlet). On an OEM car, there is a hose that goes from that IM inlet to the PCV.
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i gave in, i bought one from ebay.. i didn't want to dump the thing out every other day. i average about 6- 700 miles a week
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Old 07-24-2005, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by mingo
i gave in, i bought one from ebay.. i didn't want to dump the thing out every other day. i average about 6- 700 miles a week
Its the around town that makes it add up. We do 800 mile round trip drive from NC to Pa (all highway) each year and the air/water separator was barely 1/4 full. However, driving around in Pa for only a few days filled it up quick.

Which one did you buy?
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this is the one i bought on ebay



most of the miles i do are in heavy to light traffic. i live in west los angeles and there's always traffic around here.
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Originally Posted by mingo
this is the one i bought on ebay



most of the miles i do are in heavy to light traffic. i live in west los angeles and there's always traffic around here.
How much was it?
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anyone got a write up? for a 5.5?
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[QUOTE=2002 Maxima SE]

QUOTE]do u have additional pics or a how to were i can see how to do this ?? thanks
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Nice Idea. Anybody run it with a supercharger? I lose lots of oil (1/2 quart in 3000mi.)
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Solution to 02/03 Maxima engine ping at 2000rpm

Guys...the problem that causes the ping under load really lies with fuel delivery and carbon buildup in cylinders. To fix these problems you need to replace your in-tank fuel filter every two years/40,000km(cost is $8.90). I know that Nissan says that it's a lifetime filter because of it's location in the gas tank and the filter is built into the fuel pump, but the filter itself is made with regular paper that develops sediment/gunk buildup as the mileage rolls on and therefore there is a slight slow down of fuel delivery to the engine under load with light acceleration(2000rpm). This causes a lean fuel mixture in the cylinders and the pinging starts. Under heavier throttle, the fuel pump kicks up the pressure and sends more fuel, so therefore no pinging. To keep the cylinders carbon-free, use seafoam motor treatment every 5000km. Carbon buildup contributes to engine ping under loads.
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Originally Posted by MADMAX2003
Guys...the problem that causes the ping under load really lies with fuel delivery and carbon buildup in cylinders. To fix these problems you need to replace your in-tank fuel filter every two years/40,000km(cost is $8.90). I know that Nissan says that it's a lifetime filter because of it's location in the gas tank and the filter is built into the fuel pump, but the filter itself is made with regular paper that develops sediment/gunk buildup as the mileage rolls on and therefore there is a slight slow down of fuel delivery to the engine under load with light acceleration(2000rpm). This causes a lean fuel mixture in the cylinders and the pinging starts. Under heavier throttle, the fuel pump kicks up the pressure and sends more fuel, so therefore no pinging. To keep the cylinders carbon-free, use seafoam motor treatment every 5000km. Carbon buildup contributes to engine ping under loads.
Carbon buildup = pseudo higher CR = ping, Don't try and mix and match ideas because then you wont make any sense.

My car is almost 6 years old, has 105k and doesn't ping / knock and is on the original FF.
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Carbon buildup = pseudo higher CR = ping, Don't try and mix and match ideas because then you wont make any sense.

My car is almost 6 years old, has 105k and doesn't ping / knock and is on the original FF.
WOW...A VQ35DE that doesn't ping...You've got a one in a million there buddy...either that or you're deaf as a post...or maybe you drive like a leadfoot...Even NISSAN..the manufacturer, said to expect pinging under loads(page 9-4 of owner's manual).
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Ok, your point ...




I sense a challenge here ....

It's not like I don't have both the FSM and Owners manual memorized or anything... no...not me, and I really have not owned 2 VQ's either.... ever..

Oh, and I'm not your 'buddy', mmmkay?

My high CR VQ (10.3:1) has yet to ping.

And 1 more thing, had you been familiar with Nissan FSM's, you would know that they are prone to errors, we, here on the org. have found many. And we all know that an FSM > Owners Manual.

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Old 06-14-2008, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MADMAX2003
Guys...the problem that causes the ping under load really lies with fuel delivery and carbon buildup in cylinders. To fix these problems you need to replace your in-tank fuel filter every two years/40,000km(cost is $8.90). I know that Nissan says that it's a lifetime filter because of it's location in the gas tank and the filter is built into the fuel pump, but the filter itself is made with regular paper that develops sediment/gunk buildup as the mileage rolls on and therefore there is a slight slow down of fuel delivery to the engine under load with light acceleration(2000rpm). This causes a lean fuel mixture in the cylinders and the pinging starts. Under heavier throttle, the fuel pump kicks up the pressure and sends more fuel, so therefore no pinging. To keep the cylinders carbon-free, use seafoam motor treatment every 5000km. Carbon buildup contributes to engine ping under loads.
Where does it state this is "ping under load"?

http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...1&postcount=10
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