HID's ?
Originally Posted by bashboy2000
i was dumb and didn't read the thread about the projectors from ebay before i threw some money at them. but i want to put some hids behind them on ebay they said 02-03 hids don't fit in these headlights but i have seen 2k max with projectors and hids how do i do it and yes i'm sure its a 2k and sure they were hids
Originally Posted by n3985
You buy a H3 HID kit and done.
They have terrible output, they blind everyone on-coming traffic and the people they are behind. Not to mention they are illegal, and you will not pass your state safety inspection (if your state has them) with a kit.
Not to mention people are buying these kits that are 5000K+ in bulb temp / color, which are putting out less light then their orginial halogen bulbs. The point of your headlights is exactly what their name states, to light a head of you! You're sacrificing light and your safety and the safety of others.
And to top it all off, these kits don't even come with the proper relays. You can damage your OE wiring with out the correct relays. Your headlight wires were not designed to pull 20,000 volts it takes to ignite the arch. Not to mention a lot of these kits don't have exact plug and play plugs. you have to cut wires or jerry-rig it to work correctly. You're putting your car in more danger.
Some video evidence for those who don't believe me:
GLARE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcX63...search=Hidding
Poor Light Output: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Rdi...search=Hidding
Originally Posted by infiniteecho
Why do you people insist on telling others to buy HID kits for their cars?
They have terrible output, they blind everyone on-coming traffic and the people they are behind. Not to mention they are illegal, and you will not pass your state safety inspection (if your state has them) with a kit.
Not to mention people are buying these kits that are 5000K+ in bulb temp / color, which are putting out less light then their orginial halogen bulbs. The point of your headlights is exactly what their name states, to light a head of you! You're sacrificing light and your safety and the safety of others.
And to top it all off, these kits don't even come with the proper relays. You can damage your OE wiring with out the correct relays. Your headlight wires were not designed to pull 20,000 volts it takes to ignite the arch. Not to mention a lot of these kits don't have exact plug and play plugs. you have to cut wires or jerry-rig it to work correctly. You're putting your car in more danger.
Some video evidence for those who don't believe me:
GLARE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcX63...search=Hidding
Poor Light Output: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Rdi...search=Hidding
They have terrible output, they blind everyone on-coming traffic and the people they are behind. Not to mention they are illegal, and you will not pass your state safety inspection (if your state has them) with a kit.
Not to mention people are buying these kits that are 5000K+ in bulb temp / color, which are putting out less light then their orginial halogen bulbs. The point of your headlights is exactly what their name states, to light a head of you! You're sacrificing light and your safety and the safety of others.
And to top it all off, these kits don't even come with the proper relays. You can damage your OE wiring with out the correct relays. Your headlight wires were not designed to pull 20,000 volts it takes to ignite the arch. Not to mention a lot of these kits don't have exact plug and play plugs. you have to cut wires or jerry-rig it to work correctly. You're putting your car in more danger.
Some video evidence for those who don't believe me:
GLARE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcX63...search=Hidding
Poor Light Output: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Rdi...search=Hidding
Originally Posted by Kruppa
I got the Helios kit a while ago and I disagree with the comments. Your reasons have been posted many, many times and while they may be true in certain cases I feel as if my experience is very different. Is it a better idea to get projectors or the 02/03 HIDs? Yes, definitely, but many like myself didn't want to spend all of that money. My 6000k kit is significantly brighter than any halogen bulb I ever tired (plus i have high beam with my kit as well) and I have never once been flashed by other drivers or had any trouble with police. Our inspections are pretty tough in MA and I passed last month no problem with my HIDs in the stock 2000 housings. I say go for it if you don't want to spend all the money on a projector setup or the 02/03 housings. I love mine, I can see great at night, and get nothing but compliments on them from others as well if you care about what they look like aside from function.
You're also going to disagree with the fact that projectors and OE HID setups have far better light output and a far better beam pattern?
You think your HID kit @ 6000K is brighter than the halogen bulbs, but infact it is an illusion. Because the light is closer to the color of that of the sun, you're tricked into thinking that it's putting out more light, when infact, if measured in lumens, it's not.
In terms of inspection, well, I guess you've never had a car inspected in in RI. Most places I've been to would fail you for having an HID kit in OE housings (I've known a few idiots who have tried to pass and failed because of their illegal HID setups). I guess they don't check your beam pattern in MA.
Originally Posted by infiniteecho
You disagree with the fact that an HID kit is illegal? Just because you got away with it on your inspection or "had any trouble with the police" doesn't make it legal. Technically putting the headlights from a 5.5 gen Maxima on your 5th gen is illegal. Only difference is, the only person that would ever be able to tell is another observant Maxima owner.
You're also going to disagree with the fact that projectors and OE HID setups have far better light output and a far better beam pattern?
You think your HID kit @ 6000K is brighter than the halogen bulbs, but infact it is an illusion. Because the light is closer to the color of that of the sun, you're tricked into thinking that it's putting out more light, when infact, if measured in lumens, it's not.
In terms of inspection, well, I guess you've never had a car inspected in in RI. Most places I've been to would fail you for having an HID kit in OE housings (I've known a few idiots who have tried to pass and failed because of their illegal HID setups). I guess they don't check your beam pattern in MA.
You're also going to disagree with the fact that projectors and OE HID setups have far better light output and a far better beam pattern?
You think your HID kit @ 6000K is brighter than the halogen bulbs, but infact it is an illusion. Because the light is closer to the color of that of the sun, you're tricked into thinking that it's putting out more light, when infact, if measured in lumens, it's not.
In terms of inspection, well, I guess you've never had a car inspected in in RI. Most places I've been to would fail you for having an HID kit in OE housings (I've known a few idiots who have tried to pass and failed because of their illegal HID setups). I guess they don't check your beam pattern in MA.
It is brighter than my halogens. I have pics which I can send you if you want that show my car next to my friends 03 Max with HIDs and it shows that mine go a tad further than his but of course the beam pattern isn't as perfect which i admitted in my above post. I don't address legality because it doesnt matter to me. Cops don't care and it's not endangering anybody. Also if you read my original post I said is it better than projectors or 02/03 Hids and I said no. I know that. I'm just saying it's the perfect setup for me because I can see better and it didn't cost nearly as much money as the other options and it's a pretty close second. Don't need to get upset.
Originally Posted by Kruppa
Yah they check the beam pattern with a diagram to make sure there is enough light in the correct places so you can safely see the road at night and I passed that test.
It is brighter than my halogens. I have pics which I can send you if you want that show my car next to my friends 03 Max with HIDs and it shows that mine go a tad further than his but of course the beam pattern isn't as perfect which i admitted in my above post. I don't address legality because it doesnt matter to me. Cops don't care and it's not endangering anybody. Also if you read my original post I said is it better than projectors or 02/03 Hids and I said no. I know that. I'm just saying it's the perfect setup for me because I can see better and it didn't cost nearly as much money as the other options and it's a pretty close second. Don't need to get upset.
It is brighter than my halogens. I have pics which I can send you if you want that show my car next to my friends 03 Max with HIDs and it shows that mine go a tad further than his but of course the beam pattern isn't as perfect which i admitted in my above post. I don't address legality because it doesnt matter to me. Cops don't care and it's not endangering anybody. Also if you read my original post I said is it better than projectors or 02/03 Hids and I said no. I know that. I'm just saying it's the perfect setup for me because I can see better and it didn't cost nearly as much money as the other options and it's a pretty close second. Don't need to get upset.
Comparing your HIDs to a 5.5 gen housing doesn't really do all that much. It's no secret that the 2002-2003 HIDs were some of, if not the worst OE HIDs ever produced. Having them beam "throw farther" doesn't really mean much either. His lights could be aimed low, and yours could be aimed high.
The quality of an HID setup isn't measured in how far the light is reflected, but by the amount, fullness, and quality of the light on the ground / area infront of your car.
Also, brighter does not always mean more output. Another thing to keep in mind.
There is no further point to discussing this. If you disagree with me that's fine. Too bad, but you're entitled to do to your car / advise anyone else what to do any way you please. I will do the same -- telling them to stay the hell away from HIDs in their OE housings. Buy a set of Silverstarts from Sylvania and save the other 250 dollars for another mod.
infiniteecho, I used to be like you once, spewing out technical info and real world data, legality...etc on the HID subject. But the fact is, people on this site and many others simply don't care. If person A wants to put an HID kit in his car, be it a 5th gen Maxima with halogen housings, person A will do it, regardless of glare, legality and whatnot. But my reply to the poster who had eBay projectors, at least with his crappy projectors there is a cutoff, and not nearly as much glare as the regular halogen headlights.
Originally Posted by n3985
infiniteecho, I used to be like you once, spewing out technical info and real world data, legality...etc on the HID subject. But the fact is, people on this site and many others simply don't care. If person A wants to put an HID kit in his car, be it a 5th gen Maxima with halogen housings, person A will do it, regardless of glare, legality and whatnot. But my reply to the poster who had eBay projectors, at least with his crappy projectors there is a cutoff, and not nearly as much glare as the regular halogen headlights.
Originally Posted by infiniteecho
It's tragic really. It doesn't help that I don't post worthless responses to every thread [cough]soonerfan[cough] and have a 328402384092384 post count. So, obviously since I don't have many posts, I'm a newb and what I say doesn't matter. 

let me just add that i think lexus has the best OE reflector hid system out there 
i just can't wait to find spare 02-03 headlights so i can get a retrofit for it lol i have to admit i was very disappointed with the 02-03 output when i first got the car. i used to have an accord with tsx retrofits and the output was so much better and so much further. i can't wait to retrofit my suckers haha

i just can't wait to find spare 02-03 headlights so i can get a retrofit for it lol i have to admit i was very disappointed with the 02-03 output when i first got the car. i used to have an accord with tsx retrofits and the output was so much better and so much further. i can't wait to retrofit my suckers haha
Originally Posted by lowincash
let me just add that i think lexus has the best OE reflector hid system out there 
i just can't wait to find spare 02-03 headlights so i can get a retrofit for it lol i have to admit i was very disappointed with the 02-03 output when i first got the car. i used to have an accord with tsx retrofits and the output was so much better and so much further. i can't wait to retrofit my suckers haha

i just can't wait to find spare 02-03 headlights so i can get a retrofit for it lol i have to admit i was very disappointed with the 02-03 output when i first got the car. i used to have an accord with tsx retrofits and the output was so much better and so much further. i can't wait to retrofit my suckers haha
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