took stage 2 LTB off.....yuk!
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took stage 2 LTB off.....yuk!
I don't know how any of you can enjoy driving without a lower tie bar. Took mine off today and the car without it feels sloppy as hell....the steering is far less responsive and the car leans considerably more up front when turning. I've had it on for so long I forgot what it felt like without it.
Before you ask, I took it off for:
1. because I am replacing my motor mounts tomorrow, and the LTB is in the way and
2. because it's ski season and there's a good chance I will be driving in deep snow and on dirt roads at ski resorts and wanted a bit of ground clearance back.
It will be going back on when the snow tires come off.
I seriously don't know what you guys without an LTB are doing though....it's clearly one of the most effective handling mods for the car...
Before you ask, I took it off for:
1. because I am replacing my motor mounts tomorrow, and the LTB is in the way and
2. because it's ski season and there's a good chance I will be driving in deep snow and on dirt roads at ski resorts and wanted a bit of ground clearance back.
It will be going back on when the snow tires come off.
I seriously don't know what you guys without an LTB are doing though....it's clearly one of the most effective handling mods for the car...
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Sorry for my ignorance but the LTB2 acts like an anti-sway? I thought it just tied the chassis together like a tower brace up top. I can see how the steering would be tighter but body lean?
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Originally Posted by BEJAY1
Sorry for my ignorance but the LTB2 acts like an anti-sway? I thought it just tied the chassis together like a tower brace up top. I can see how the steering would be tighter but body lean?
Perhaps "body lean" is not the correct terminology for it, but that's the "feeling" it has.
I thought you had one of these anyways? Or are you just playing Devil's Advocate
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Originally Posted by irish44j
I don't know how any of you can enjoy driving without a lower tie bar.
I seriously don't know what you guys without an LTB are doing though....it's clearly one of the most effective handling mods for the car...
I seriously don't know what you guys without an LTB are doing though....it's clearly one of the most effective handling mods for the car...
I'm sure the LTB helps a lot, but with my drop it would be risky for me, even in the summer.
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Originally Posted by Bluesbrekr
....RSB, FSTB and coilovers work pretty well for me.
I'm sure the LTB helps a lot, but with my drop it would be risky for me, even in the summer.
I'm sure the LTB helps a lot, but with my drop it would be risky for me, even in the summer.
I sold my LTB stage2 to Cale who is riding on Boss Chens and he scrapes A LOT, he also claims he cant tell a diffrence with it on.
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Originally Posted by Stardust
Hey Tom
I sold my LTB stage2 to Cale who is riding on Boss Chens and he scrapes A LOT, he also claims he cant tell a diffrence with it on.
I sold my LTB stage2 to Cale who is riding on Boss Chens and he scrapes A LOT, he also claims he cant tell a diffrence with it on.
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Originally Posted by Bluesbrekr
....RSB, FSTB and coilovers work pretty well for me.
I'm sure the LTB helps a lot, but with my drop it would be risky for me, even in the summer.
I'm sure the LTB helps a lot, but with my drop it would be risky for me, even in the summer.
I actually kept it on all last winter....
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i could really tell a diffirence after i installed mine. better daily driving and reduced auto-x times.
ive scrapped it a couple times but just on really sh1tty roads
i plan on just keeping mine on...i can go plow the roads for people
ive scrapped it a couple times but just on really sh1tty roads
i plan on just keeping mine on...i can go plow the roads for people
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hmmm because I'm not looking at getting headers any more... and because you claim its very effective I may look at getting a stage 2 LTB given I start making some money with my new job.
I fear though that once I've got my bushings installed and the stage 2 LTB installed I'll have done just about everything...
Which meens I dont know where I'll go from there with the I35
Maybe a carputer with a touchscreen in place of the bose HU?
I fear though that once I've got my bushings installed and the stage 2 LTB installed I'll have done just about everything...
Which meens I dont know where I'll go from there with the I35
Maybe a carputer with a touchscreen in place of the bose HU?
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2. because it's ski season and there's a good chance I will be driving in deep snow and on dirt roads at ski resorts and wanted a bit of ground clearance back.
is Bhlemco still producing these? or are they hard to find,.. i've wanted one for a long time,..
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Originally Posted by mist max2000
,.. now if only the easy coast would get some snow..i was in killington, VT skiing in the rain past few days.. anyways...
is Bhlemco still producing these? or are they hard to find,.. i've wanted one for a long time,..
is Bhlemco still producing these? or are they hard to find,.. i've wanted one for a long time,..
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Originally Posted by irish44j
I thought you had one of these anyways? Or are you just playing Devil's Advocate
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Originally Posted by kbjy11
can anyone comment the clearance of the stage 1 vs the stage 2???
Also the difference in handling?? Also how are they taking speed bumps?
Also the difference in handling?? Also how are they taking speed bumps?
speed bumps are no problem because the bar is where the wheels are. when the wheels go over a speedbump, the bars goes up at the same time. it may scrap if you go over the bump at an angle
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I couldn't imagine driving my car without one now. Just wish I didn't have that annoying creaking once in a while, but I have enough rattles to make up for it. Unfortunately, I'm gonna have to remove it I guess for the ES MMs soon. irish, are you replacing your mounts with ES or OEM?
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I've had no clearence problems with mine, no scraping at all. Although I do make sure that I go over all speed bumps straight, not at an angle. The STB stage 2 is an amazing upgrade, for those of you who don't have one, you don't know what you're missing!
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holy crap I know exactly what you mean! I took mine off a couple weeks ago because I was never able to get that passenger side rear corner to stay attached and my car feels like ****...My dash is rattling again, my steering response sucks, and I have a **** load of snap oversteer now....My car used to be 100% neutral and now even around the smallest turns I have oversteer...I want it back on, but I can't install it until I replace that right subframe piece and get it on a lift (it's been re-tapped one too many times )
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Originally Posted by zero2sixtyZ
I couldn't imagine driving my car without one now. Just wish I didn't have that annoying creaking once in a while, but I have enough rattles to make up for it. Unfortunately, I'm gonna have to remove it I guess for the ES MMs soon. irish, are you replacing your mounts with ES or OEM?
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I was never able to get that passenger side rear corner to stay attached
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Originally Posted by CCS2k1Max
Are the threads stripped or is the LTB off square and won't line up? Mine was off and took a few hits with a hammer to get the holes to line up. I was still a bioch to get the rear bolts started without cross threading them. If I take mine off, it will be for good.
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Originally Posted by CCS2k1Max
Are the threads stripped or is the LTB off square and won't line up? Mine was off and took a few hits with a hammer to get the holes to line up. I was still a bioch to get the rear bolts started without cross threading them. If I take mine off, it will be for good.
I'll put it back on when I have access to a lift and after I get that subframe piece replaced
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It felt bad when I removed mine, the drop with the D2 make LTB2 to scrape on the road, so i'm going to try to raise the D2 by an inche or so and see if I can put the LTB2 back on,otherwise I can only think of swapping the D2 for Illumina and some good spring. The D2 are fantastic for the price but for the ride the coilover are rough and I want to get back to the pleasure of driving this car without damaging my kidneys, this will be until I find a 2002 or 2003 M5 but that's another story.
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