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Old 07-06-2001, 07:04 AM
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whats the factory spec torque setting for the underdrive pulley bolt? my oil pump went causing engine damage broken cams,timing belt and bent valves ,nissan says the pulley was over tightend and caused the problem,the torque spec the gave me was 29/36tq.
 
Old 07-06-2001, 07:27 AM
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whats the factory spec torque setting for the underdrive pulley bolt? my oil pump went causing engine damage broken cams,timing belt and bent valves ,nissan says the pulley was over tightend and caused the problem,the torque spec the gave me was 29/36tq.
i thought your engine broke because you shifted into 2nd gear on accident at like 80mph or something?
 
Old 07-06-2001, 07:40 AM
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i thought your engine broke because you shifted into 2nd gear on accident at like 80mph or something?
thats what i thought,they said somthing broke in the oil pump causing the other components to brake down,they said the pump is right behind the pulley bolt.
 
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hmmm.....can the oil pump fail because of the pulley bolt?
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Old 07-06-2001, 08:52 AM
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unorthadox says this is unrelated

but I would see why they would be biased. Seems honduhs had a similar problem. Check out this article on their page....

http://www.unorthodoxracing.com/faq.html
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Old 07-06-2001, 09:17 AM
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I suppose we could run a poll to find out, but perhaps it would be just as easy to ask the question here.

Has anyone besides QUANSUNG had an oil pump fail on their Maxima after installing an Unorthodox UDP?
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Old 07-06-2001, 09:28 AM
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They're screwing ya, buddy.

The 29-36 ft/lbs is correct, BUT you then torque the bolt another 60 degrees which means the bolt is torqueing down to 110-120 ft/lbs. The pulley bolt is HUGE and high grade. You don't specify a bolt like that unless you're torqueing it to well over 100 ft/lbs. Simply put, they're yankin' your chain. I get my information from Chiltons. When you installed the pulley, didn't you have a hell of a time getting the bolt loose? 29-36 ft/lbs would come off with little trouble.

Mared cams, bent valves, "kissed" pistons, blown oil pumps, and shattered clutches are all typical failures when you misshift. When you hit 2nd on a missed 2-4 shift at 80mph (I'm assuming you did this), would EASILY exceed 8000rpms which is WELL over spec on the valve springs, crank, pump, cams, tranny, etc. This is your problem...NOT the UDP.


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feel a little bit better.............

Originally posted by Dave B
They're screwing ya, buddy.

The 29-36 ft/lbs is correct, BUT you then torque the bolt another 60 degrees which means the bolt is torqueing down to 110-120 ft/lbs. The pulley bolt is HUGE and high grade. You don't specify a bolt like that unless you're torqueing it to well over 100 ft/lbs. Simply put, they're yankin' your chain. I get my information from Chiltons. When you installed the pulley, didn't you have a hell of a time getting the bolt loose? 29-36 ft/lbs would come off with little trouble.

Mared cams, bent valves, "kissed" pistons, blown oil pumps, and shattered clutches are all typical failures when you misshift. When you hit 2nd on a missed 2-4 shift at 80mph (I'm assuming you did this), would EASILY exceed 8000rpms which is WELL over spec on the valve springs, crank, pump, cams, tranny, etc. This is your problem...NOT the UDP.


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after reading your post.....I ended up in a garage to have the nut removed because I cracked my socket "trying" to remove it (crank nut). Anyhow, the mechaninc tightened the bolt with the impact wrench, but it wasn't torqued. Should I be concerned about the overtighten of that crank nut with the impact gun?
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Old 07-07-2001, 10:45 AM
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Miatas have had several oil pump failures due to the pulley upgrade, too. THis does not seem to be a problem on Nissans, though.
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Hey Dennis

Maybe you should take your car back from the dealer and put the stock pulley on...then bring it to another dealer...
 
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Originally posted by Dave B
They're screwing ya, buddy.

The 29-36 ft/lbs is correct, BUT you then torque the bolt another 60 degrees which means the bolt is torqueing down to 110-120 ft/lbs. The pulley bolt is HUGE and high grade. You don't specify a bolt like that unless you're torqueing it to well over 100 ft/lbs. Simply put, they're yankin' your chain. I get my information from Chiltons. When you installed the pulley, didn't you have a hell of a time getting the bolt loose? 29-36 ft/lbs would come off with little trouble.

Mared cams, bent valves, "kissed" pistons, blown oil pumps, and shattered clutches are all typical failures when you misshift. When you hit 2nd on a missed 2-4 shift at 80mph (I'm assuming you did this), would EASILY exceed 8000rpms which is WELL over spec on the valve springs, crank, pump, cams, tranny, etc. This is your problem...NOT the UDP.


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I agree with Dave B on this one.

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