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Old 01-25-2010 | 04:56 PM
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we have to setup a track meet after the dyno for this call out
A little rivalry at the track would be fun as long as he doesn't get his butt all hurt and start swinging at people when even a ricey cobalt girl car walks him. For some reason he strikes me as that type of individual from his heated responses and call outs on here. Hopefully that's not the case.

As it stands right now, even grand_hustle would probably beat me with my clutch as fried as it is. It's to the point where if I hold the cruise control to speed up while in 6th gear at 65 mph, the clutch slips and the cruise control instantly turns off. For some reason it still does OK if I roll into WOT above 4500 rpms, but aggressive shifts and launching are out of the question.
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can i jump in the fun? Crusher103 vs ????

oh and ur prayers are going to be answered im thinking May when everybody is out of school and summer is just begining a nice little track meet
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
Lemme inform the forum seeing as though u wanna act like u dont know why i said what i said.................. Maxima.org there was suppose to be a MD vs NC showdown at one point... Jaypee99 vs sparks was suppose to be the match up, Kingjames vs Grand_hustle17 (im sure some remembered that cause that was in the 5th gen section also) datdude20 vs a couple of others and so on and so forth hence why i keep bringing up jaypee's name... i know sparks probebly never accept the challenge and never thought about it but thats the main reason i keep brining it up................
Ah. You see this is a constant recurring problem around here that annoys the hell out of me. Certain people in my local maxima car club insist on having my name in their mouth when talking sh*t. Apparently this "matchup" you speak of is one of those cases.

I've unknowingly challenged entire car clubs to race (on the street, HA!!!) without even being a party to it. I just love it when people talk for me, it makes me feel like I'm too important to talk for myself.
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Originally Posted by Crusher103
can i jump in the fun? Crusher103 vs ????

oh and ur prayers are going to be answered im thinking May when everybody is out of school and summer is just begining a nice little track meet
You vs steven. He may have more mods, but he's steven and is thus limited to his version of stoic IE 14.7@97, so you've got an easy kill IMO.
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ok **** it both of u are slow, now u can call me out
Old 01-25-2010 | 05:07 PM
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You vs steven. He may have more mods, but he's steven and is thus limited to his version of stoic IE 14.7@97, so you've got an easy kill IMO.
lol hell yea see here we go....although it wont be fair, i think with the 3.5 my mods>his mods.
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dude ive been to the track too long to act like that, i understand u have ur track experience also, and u do have me all wrong, u win u win, come back on the forum and brag, again i dont care i said what i said... as it stand even walking down the track beats me, my car dont even turn on... period, i catch the dag gon metrobus to work now

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Originally Posted by Crusher103
ok **** it both of u are slow, now u can call me out
Sadly I'm not much of the calling out type. I know I'm slow, with the amount of mods I have I should at least be in the 12.7-12.8 range with a better driver.

grand_hustle, on the other hand, has only extended his challenge to 5.5 gens that are not located in certain areas. Sorry
Old 01-25-2010 | 05:12 PM
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im suppose to lose to a 6spd right, so why should i be mad?? i dont care that much about a damn race dude... if im that mad ill go find a bish or go get 2 bottles of absolut with the friends and get wasted ma dude...
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
dude ive been to the track too long to act like that, i understand u have ur track experience also, and u do have me all wrong, u win u win, come back on the forum and brag, again i dont care i said what i said... as it stand even walking down the track beats me, my car dont even turn on... period, i catch the dag gon metrobus to work now
That sucks... I feel your pain my car is my daily as well. What happened to it?

I wouldn't have anything to gain from bragging after beating you. It's an auto 4-speed with less mods. The auto is definitely faster at higher power levels from gearing, but it's a bit of a dog at N/A levels. I can say that from experience after sitting in the tuning chair of a certain black auto 5.5 gen for a couple of hours recently.
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
im suppose to lose to a 6spd right, so why should i be mad?? i dont care that much about a damn race dude... if im that mad ill go find a bish or go get 2 bottles of absolut with the friends and get wasted ma dude...
aww cmon man dont tell me u have run out of stuff to say that u have to resort to the b1tches n alcohol.....
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what if i said 5spd>>>>>6spds? then do we have some play?
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Originally Posted by Crusher103
what if i said 5spd>>>>>6spds? then do we have some play?
I would whole heartedly agree with you on the track since you b@stards get to stay in 3rd gear through the traps.
Old 01-25-2010 | 05:47 PM
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I would whole heartedly agree with you on the track since you b@stards get to stay in 3rd gear through the traps.
DAMNIT ur making it hard to start another big debate, even thou i know next to nothing about the 6spds either than they have an extra gear and a better LSD
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DAMNIT ur making it hard to start another big debate, even thou i know next to nothing about the 6spds either than they have an extra gear and a better LSD
They hold power a bit better too... but shifting to 4th in the 1/4 is fail.
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Originally Posted by sparks03max
That sucks... I feel your pain my car is my daily as well. What happened to it?

I wouldn't have anything to gain from bragging after beating you. It's an auto 4-speed with less mods. The auto is definitely faster at higher power levels from gearing, but it's a bit of a dog at N/A levels. I can say that from experience after sitting in the tuning chair of a certain black auto 5.5 gen for a couple of hours recently.
possibly motor and trans, hopefully only trans
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Originally Posted by Crusher103
aww cmon man dont tell me u have run out of stuff to say that u have to resort to the b1tches n alcohol.....
thats all i care about... oh and money of coarse
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Originally Posted by sparks03max
Sadly I'm not much of the calling out type. I know I'm slow, with the amount of mods I have I should at least be in the 12.7-12.8 range with a better driver.

grand_hustle, on the other hand, has only extended his challenge to 5.5 gens that are not located in certain areas. Sorry
your point???
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
thats all i care about... oh and money of coarse
i could careless for the b1tches but the alcohol......















wait did i get that backwards
Old 01-25-2010 | 06:17 PM
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Okay...getting tired of this bull ish. Anyone care to tell me how the **** they angled their OBXs so they'd slide up onto the manifold? Before I put them on catapult and launch them into oblivion...

I'm sick of fighting with these things...
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Originally Posted by Crusher103
i could careless for the b1tches but the alcohol......















wait did i get that backwards
not really, i can understand lol
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basically, dont tighten any bolts on the head, get em on the stud the loosely then just have the bolt hold em there, after the rear is on then let the fight begin... try to get the front manifold to line up with the y and bolt that in
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
basically, dont tighten any bolts on the head, get em on the stud the loosely then just have the bolt hold em there, after the rear is on then let the fight begin... try to get the front manifold to line up with the y and bolt that in
I'm talking i can't even get the bastard to slide up into gap where it's supposed to go. How'd you do that...?
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I'm talking i can't even get the bastard to slide up into gap where it's supposed to go. How'd you do that...?

i did the labor....

you wil have to FIGHT LITERALLY!!! ITS A PITA
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Originally Posted by i2vicious2
i did the labor....

you wil have to FIGHT LITERALLY!!! ITS A PITA
this is the genius here
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
this is the genius here
Do you not remember?

I even had my dad helping out, and we couldn't figure out how the hell it slides up...
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u really do gotta fight
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Well, I guess I'm just going to go back out and fight with them. I'm almost half tempted to buzz through the lower part of the collector with a saw, have the shop weld on some flanges, and go from there if this doesn't work out.

This has been going for three days now. I'm exhausted...
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dont worry, took me 4 days because of work lol
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Well, I guess I'm just going to go back out and fight with them. I'm almost half tempted to buzz through the lower part of the collector with a saw, have the shop weld on some flanges, and go from there if this doesn't work out.

This has been going for three days now. I'm exhausted...
Now you know why people are willing to pay 300-400 to have them installed!!!

I hate to start another ****-throwing fest, but my rear header went on in about 10 minutes
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The rear motor mount metal cover needs to be modified/removed for the rear header to fit properly.
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Now you know why people are willing to pay 300-400 to have them installed!!!

I hate to start another ****-throwing fest, but my rear header went on in about 10 minutes
If I ever do this again, I'm going with Cattman. **** OBX. I'd be much happier seeing these ****ing things burn than having them installed...
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The rear motor mount metal cover needs to be modified/removed for the rear header to fit properly.
How does that work...? Considering it's welded on...
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How does that work...? Considering it's welded on...
Well it's easy enough to remove, just unbolt the subframe and the motor mounts then pull it down. You'll need a jack under the transmission to make the holes line back up to reinstall... the modification would be cutting a notch in it afaik. Isn't there an OBX header install thread around here somewhere with pics?
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Originally Posted by sparks03max
Well it's easy enough to remove, just unbolt the subframe and the motor mounts then pull it down. You'll need a jack under the transmission to make the holes line back up to reinstall... the modification would be cutting a notch in it afaik. Isn't there an OBX header install thread around here somewhere with pics?
There is, and I've been using it as a guide, it's well-done. He just missed a lot of details. Like the rear heat shield being a *****.

But other than that, I just wasn't really sure where to cut. I guess I'll have to pull it and go from there.

Edit: Nevermind. It's just the shield that's in the way. It's only held on by two spot welds. I'm going to just cut/remove the bastard.

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Popped it off in 2 secs with an air chisel. Really helps to have the right tools
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Originally Posted by Unklejoe
Popped it off in 2 secs with an air chisel. Really helps to have the right tools


I had air tools and a lift throughout the header install. Saved so much time.
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Originally Posted by Unklejoe
Popped it off in 2 secs with an air chisel. Really helps to have the right tools
headers in general is a pita to install... i dont see why ur so blown about the install, im sure everybody knew that it was going to be tuff... i see ur frustration set in... im sure theres a lot of people who said what u said lol
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Originally Posted by Unklejoe
Popped it off in 2 secs with an air chisel. Really helps to have the right tools
i have an air chisel. I just don't know where to hit the shield to make it break off. I'm assuming the weld next to the bolt holding the actual mount in place?
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
headers in general is a pita to install... i dont see why ur so blown about the install, im sure everybody knew that it was going to be tuff... i see ur frustration set in... im sure theres a lot of people who said what u said lol
Yeah it appears you pay the price a bit on difficulty of install after removal of the stock headers with OBX. Install of the cattman headers after the stockers were off was a very simple bolton affair with no snags or issues. It took MAYBE an hour before the car was dropped after I began the installation. Of course, it's easily worth the price difference. I can't dispute that.

Removing those heat shields made me want to stomp kittens, though.


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