Anyone else swap out motor mounts and regret it?
02-24-2011, 06:29 AM
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Anyone else swap out motor mounts and regret it?
I swapped mine out, and really miss the smooth idle with the mounts (mine weren't damaged). I'm thinking of getting stock ones. Two questions:
1)Anyone else do the swap and feel the same way?
2)Should I replace both front and rear mounts, or just the front with the harness?
1)Anyone else do the swap and feel the same way?
2)Should I replace both front and rear mounts, or just the front with the harness?
02-24-2011, 06:43 AM
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Did you also swap bushings? I did these as well and wonder if they might also be contributing to the issue
02-24-2011, 06:51 AM
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I had solid motor mounts in my Chevelle, vibration was very minimal although the cam lope could be felt at idle. I'd imagine urethane mounts would transmit even less. 
If it bothers you though, go back to stock.
If it bothers you though, go back to stock.
02-24-2011, 07:03 AM
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Regret it? No way... best mod ever on this car.
There's a personal and fine line to be had between comfort and "feel" of the car. For myself, I distinctly remember the day those ES bushings were pressed into the torque mounts. It was such a rush, feeling more attuned to the car. And of course, the efficiency benefits of laying down torque to the pavement better... that was undeniable. I will never go back to OEM mount bushings. Never.
But you can do whatever you want to, OP. It's your car.
There's a personal and fine line to be had between comfort and "feel" of the car. For myself, I distinctly remember the day those ES bushings were pressed into the torque mounts. It was such a rush, feeling more attuned to the car. And of course, the efficiency benefits of laying down torque to the pavement better... that was undeniable. I will never go back to OEM mount bushings. Never.
But you can do whatever you want to, OP. It's your car.
02-24-2011, 07:13 AM
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I have inserts on my 93 altima auto. You can deff feel it more then I did on my 5 speed altima when in drive at a light. I am curious to see who is auto and who is standard.
Another thing to think about is if any of the untouched mounts are damaged. When my auto shook bad I replaced the side and trans mount and it got a lot better but was still rough. I liked the pluses from the mod so I couldnt go back to stock and the vibration was not bad enough to cause concern to me or passengers.
Another thing to think about is if any of the untouched mounts are damaged. When my auto shook bad I replaced the side and trans mount and it got a lot better but was still rough. I liked the pluses from the mod so I couldnt go back to stock and the vibration was not bad enough to cause concern to me or passengers.
02-24-2011, 07:38 AM
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I swapped out my mounts to non poly but also non electrical.
I would say the vibration is there but barely noticable. If your car is in good tune you should not have any issues.
I have noticed when i fill up with regular vs premium I can now feel it at idle! LOL
I would say the vibration is there but barely noticable. If your car is in good tune you should not have any issues.
I have noticed when i fill up with regular vs premium I can now feel it at idle! LOL
02-24-2011, 07:48 AM
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lol. Not good. I thought we were suposed to use 91 and up?
02-24-2011, 07:55 AM
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If it works for you I guess. I would think it would do harm in the long run. And switch gas octanes in my opinion would be worse. I would think if 87 works I would stay there instead of making the ecu constantly relearn.
02-24-2011, 08:08 AM
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I really feel it at idle. It could be my shot rod bearings, buts its pretty bad, I can feel every vibration of the engine. None of the mounts are shot, they are all new as of August. I'm just wondering if I get a new engine if I should also get new mounts with it
02-24-2011, 08:10 AM
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Where did you get the mounts from? I had gotten some autozone and ebay side and trans mounts for my 93 altima and it was worse then the broken oem. I went with brand new oem and all was better.
02-24-2011, 08:20 AM
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eBay...you're probably right, they are probably the culprits. They didnt want to fit on the crossmember without some help from my good friend, Dr. Sledgehammer. Also, when I tried to bolt in the front mount, I couldnt get a bolt in the hole because the hole was filled with rubber that I needed to drill out. I might ask them to toss in some new ones with a new motor.
02-25-2011, 09:36 PM
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It's pretty funny, most of you who do all these mods to your cars then bizitch about the ill effects of making those mods, even if you spin it in a positive way. "Well, my shocks make my teeth shatter now when I hit a pebble, but OMG it corners awesome!!", stuff like that.
Think about it, Nissan spent millions upon millions of dollars developing the car, contracting with parts suppliers, etc... Why do you think some Ebay company with no budget will do a better job than OEM?
I've modded a couple of the cars I owned in the past and almost always regretted it (even if I wouldn't admit it to myself). Droning exhaust, super hard suspension, vibration transmitting motor mounts, etc... The tradeoffs for a lot of mods aren't worth it, not to mention they cause other things to break at times. I like my Max stock, I think they struck a great balance between comfort and performance that is hard to beat.
Hmmm, maybe my problem with mods is that I'm OLD now??
Think about it, Nissan spent millions upon millions of dollars developing the car, contracting with parts suppliers, etc... Why do you think some Ebay company with no budget will do a better job than OEM?
I've modded a couple of the cars I owned in the past and almost always regretted it (even if I wouldn't admit it to myself). Droning exhaust, super hard suspension, vibration transmitting motor mounts, etc... The tradeoffs for a lot of mods aren't worth it, not to mention they cause other things to break at times. I like my Max stock, I think they struck a great balance between comfort and performance that is hard to beat.
Hmmm, maybe my problem with mods is that I'm OLD now??
02-25-2011, 10:21 PM
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It's pretty funny, most of you who do all these mods to your cars then bizitch about the ill effects of making those mods, even if you spin it in a positive way. "Well, my shocks make my teeth shatter now when I hit a pebble, but OMG it corners awesome!!", stuff like that.
Think about it, Nissan spent millions upon millions of dollars developing the car, contracting with parts suppliers, etc... Why do you think some Ebay company with no budget will do a better job than OEM?
I've modded a couple of the cars I owned in the past and almost always regretted it (even if I wouldn't admit it to myself). Droning exhaust, super hard suspension, vibration transmitting motor mounts, etc... The tradeoffs for a lot of mods aren't worth it, not to mention they cause other things to break at times. I like my Max stock, I think they struck a great balance between comfort and performance that is hard to beat.
Hmmm, maybe my problem with mods is that I'm OLD now??
Think about it, Nissan spent millions upon millions of dollars developing the car, contracting with parts suppliers, etc... Why do you think some Ebay company with no budget will do a better job than OEM?
I've modded a couple of the cars I owned in the past and almost always regretted it (even if I wouldn't admit it to myself). Droning exhaust, super hard suspension, vibration transmitting motor mounts, etc... The tradeoffs for a lot of mods aren't worth it, not to mention they cause other things to break at times. I like my Max stock, I think they struck a great balance between comfort and performance that is hard to beat.
Hmmm, maybe my problem with mods is that I'm OLD now??
, I agree. Thats why in my sig. I say "leavn the modn' to u guys!
02-25-2011, 10:29 PM
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Swapped my electric mounts to ebay ones, while I don't mind a little vibration its when things in the cabin start to make a little rattle noise. When I hold it, it'll stop but let go and it vibrates again, rare occasions though.
02-26-2011, 07:09 AM
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But Racingline does manufacture good stuff. If you can get their attention, and get something shipped to your door... go for it.
02-26-2011, 07:30 AM
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One of the best mod's I have had done, the vibration at idle is minimal at best and not there once in motion. I have two videos to show the engine when under torque.
First on the dyno is the stock motor mount setup
http://upload.streetfire.net/video/S...yno_111916.htm
Second on the dyno is with ES motor mounts and sub bushings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us7FO-AhN64
Here is the stock mount setup & cross member
Here is the ES mounts and Sub bushings setup
First on the dyno is the stock motor mount setup
http://upload.streetfire.net/video/S...yno_111916.htm
Second on the dyno is with ES motor mounts and sub bushings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us7FO-AhN64
Here is the stock mount setup & cross member
Here is the ES mounts and Sub bushings setup
02-26-2011, 09:40 AM
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I'll be 50 in a few months, I don't consider myself old. If I did, I wouldn't have put 4585 miles on my road bike last year. 
If I can enhance the performance without seriously degrading ride quality or adding a lot of noise, I'll do it. GAB, block plate, spacers, FTSB, larger rear anti-roll bar are all mods you can do to make the car more fun without making the ride unduly harsh or the engine overly loud.
02-26-2011, 10:02 AM
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I've modded a couple of the cars I owned in the past and almost always regretted it (even if I wouldn't admit it to myself). Droning exhaust, super hard suspension, vibration transmitting motor mounts, etc... The tradeoffs for a lot of mods aren't worth it, not to mention they cause other things to break at times. I like my Max stock, I think they struck a great balance between comfort and performance that is hard to beat.
Hmmm, maybe my problem with mods is that I'm OLD now??
Hmmm, maybe my problem with mods is that I'm OLD now??
Everything I've done to my car was deliberate and enjoyed. It's very slowly evolved to the point where I feel my Maxima is perfectly customized to my tastes, how I like to drive, and what I like to drive.
To piggyback on Scott's sentiments... I'm 47. And I love my modified 4-door.
02-26-2011, 10:07 AM
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^^^^ What he said, and I just turned 57, and enjoy doing the research and customizing my car. So age really is not a factor in any way, other than it takes me longer to haul my a$$ out from under my car.
02-26-2011, 11:17 AM
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No, age isn't your problem. It's lack of research.
Everything I've done to my car was deliberate and enjoyed. It's very slowly evolved to the point where I feel my Maxima is perfectly customized to my tastes, how I like to drive, and what I like to drive.
To piggyback on Scott's sentiments... I'm 47. And I love my modified 4-door.
Everything I've done to my car was deliberate and enjoyed. It's very slowly evolved to the point where I feel my Maxima is perfectly customized to my tastes, how I like to drive, and what I like to drive.
To piggyback on Scott's sentiments... I'm 47. And I love my modified 4-door.
02-26-2011, 11:23 AM
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I don't have to do any research, Nissan did it for me. Hey, you guys like modding - great. I just happen to prefer leaving things alone. In my experience with my own cars and those of others, leaving it alone has resulted in more reliability for the long run. I'm sure there are plenty of you who have modded some things without consequence, but I've known many who have not been able to do so.
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02-26-2011, 11:50 AM
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04-07-2011, 05:14 PM
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Sorry to bring this back. sence i got my new 03 i have noticed some engine bump when going from park to drive or reverse.i changed the struts to blues and s-tech's i have noticed the rattle and clunk have appeared to get louder.So my question is this are the M/T mounts direct replacement for the auto mounts except for the electric one that i dont care about.also if i buy new M/T mounts that are aftermarket can i swap in the ES bushings?
04-07-2011, 08:28 PM
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Sorry to bring this back. sence i got my new 03 i have noticed some engine bump when going from park to drive or reverse.i changed the struts to blues and s-tech's i have noticed the rattle and clunk have appeared to get louder.So my question is this are the M/T mounts direct replacement for the auto mounts except for the electric one that i dont care about.also if i buy new M/T mounts that are aftermarket can i swap in the ES bushings?
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