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Old 05-18-2012 | 07:02 AM
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experiences.and remember guns don't kill people,people kill people
Hmmm I knew this would come out.

This is like saying Cigarettes don't kill people.

Or like saying a Flammable object isn't dangerous. It takes something to start it on fire before it's dangerous.

Stupidest saying ever. They're insanely dangerous, just like many things in this world.
Putting humans in the mix is an inevitable thing, especially when guns are specifically MADE FOR US TO USE, even moulded to your hand for pete sakes.

That saying has 0 relevance. There are arguments that do hold weight pro-guns, but man, that's not one of them.
Old 05-18-2012 | 07:03 AM
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One of the things I love about living in Oregon is the distinct lack of rust on our cars. Even my old 91 Ford which has crappy paint, has zero rust. Only coastal cars get rust in Oregon.
same here n it gets cold as heck
Old 05-18-2012 | 07:07 AM
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i personally prefer to have this

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vs this not necessarily the colors...

Old 05-18-2012 | 07:09 AM
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Explain le dyno I posted
I can't. Then again, who's to say what order the mods were done on that car?

Who's to say if tuning took place naywhere?

Who's to say it was done the same day on the same fuel?

Those are 4 mods that aren't done in 10 minutes, I have doubts that that's a relevant comparison dyno for what we're talking about.
Old 05-18-2012 | 07:11 AM
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Old 05-18-2012 | 07:11 AM
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CJ ima have to agree with tuner.... Guns kill ppl bro man lol... ppl use guns to kill ppl lol
Old 05-18-2012 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000
I can't. Then again, who's to say what order the mods were done on that car?

Who's to say if tuning took place naywhere?

Who's to say it was done the same day on the same fuel?

Those are 4 mods that aren't done in 10 minutes, I have doubts that that's a relevant comparison dyno for what we're talking about.
Tch tch tch
Old 05-18-2012 | 07:13 AM
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Bish wtf? Who cares








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i keel jew!!!!!!!!!
Old 05-18-2012 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000
Hmmm I knew this would come out.

This is like saying Cigarettes don't kill people.

Or like saying a Flammable object isn't dangerous. It takes something to start it on fire before it's dangerous.

Stupidest saying ever. They're insanely dangerous, just like many things in this world.
Putting humans in the mix is an inevitable thing, especially when guns are specifically MADE FOR US TO USE, even moulded to your hand for pete sakes.

That saying has 0 relevance. There are arguments that do hold weight pro-guns, but man, that's not one of them.
Old 05-18-2012 | 07:18 AM
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i personally prefer to have this

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What you're saying is that you want my car, but dropped to the pavement and the roof all goobered up with CF wrap?



Um, OK then.
Old 05-18-2012 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000
i have a feeling if posted in the correct places you may have to buy pocket extenders for your pants.
Old 05-18-2012 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by cjandura
That would have been a whole lot more entertaining if you accidentally fired it and then wet your pants.
Old 05-18-2012 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
That would have been a whole lot more entertaining if you accidentally fired it and then wet your pants.
that handgun has a 11lb trigger pull so its not accidently going off
Old 05-18-2012 | 07:24 AM
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gUNz d0nT k1LL pe0pL3....BlaCK maFcUkaZ w1f gUNz kILL p30pl3!1!!!
Old 05-18-2012 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by cjandura
that handgun has a 11lb trigger pull so its not accidently going off
Still, I'd rather see you fire that gun indoors and soil yourself.

And on that, I'm sure I speak for everyone here.
Old 05-18-2012 | 07:29 AM
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Still, I'd rather see you fire that gun indoors and soil yourself.

And on that, I'm sure I speak for everyone here.
the accidental discharge of a firearm is the sign of an incompetent person.and i guess you'll send your Wet Nurse to clean up the mess if it happened
Old 05-18-2012 | 07:30 AM
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On an actual car-related topic... I'm going to go see a custom auto-paint guy in another hour, and talk to him about a few ideas I have for the G37. Beautiful day for a drive, too. Car is clean, tires are shiny black, tank is full.

Feeling good.
Old 05-18-2012 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
On an actual car-related topic... I'm going to go see a custom auto-paint guy in another hour, and talk to him about a few ideas I have for the G37. Beautiful day for a drive, too. Car is clean, tires are shiny black, tank is full.

Feeling good.
a little tux action for the grill?
Old 05-18-2012 | 07:38 AM
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don't paint it, wrap it. Paint is so permanent and you can get a wrap to look almost exactly like paint if you get the right kind and it's 100% reversible.
Old 05-18-2012 | 07:39 AM
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...It really depends on the KE req'd to break static friction of the wheels and the PE of your vehicle to determine launches (And how much uhmph the motor has to overcome the KE and PE of these things)...
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...When I say quick slip, get the vehicle moving about 1 foot or 2 before letting all hell break loose, the coefficient of kinetic friction is MUCH higher than static friction....
You're saying you want the static friction, right?
Old 05-18-2012 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by nelledge
You're saying you want the static friction, right?
No Kinetic.

Takes more power to spin the tires from a roll than it does from a stop mangg.

Thus you can apply moar powahh to da wheelz.

SN:

Since we've been discussing launches I've been trying to get the white car off of the line, finding it impossible w/ 5MT and open Diff

I'm spinning or hooking and tq steering all over the place, the car is out of control in 1st gear. When the red car spun it'd just go straight and eventually hook.

White car is intense, spin, bog, steer, ugh.

Actually you know what I remember the red car being the same way, it was getting bad in 2nd gear too before I went 6mt.

Lighter flywheel lowered PE and helped me to launch better and keep control of the car in that blink of an eye 1st gear

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Old 05-18-2012 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by cjandura
a little tux action for the grill?
That's one item, yes. Also looking at air-brushing the cut-out in the lower rear bumper. No commitments yet on anything, I'm just collecting information, so that I can weigh options.

Which is how I mod... very, very slowly. I never make snap decisions with the car.
Old 05-18-2012 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by cjandura
i have a feeling if posted in the correct places you may have to buy pocket extenders for your pants.
Perhaps. Maybe one day, I'll move somewhere that people have money and get my own shop.

But probably not.


Originally Posted by Rochester
That would have been a whole lot more entertaining if you accidentally fired it and then wet your pants.


Originally Posted by cjandura
CJ's video


Here's a Gerry can full of gas. In order to light it on fire, you have to first remove the safety cap by depressing the locking tabs, and turning it in the proper direction, then you have to pour the gas out over something.

But this is still safe. As an added safety feature, you need a Lighter to do anything further!

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Even more safe, there's a safety depress tab on the lighter before you can strike it. Once depressed you can now use the lighter. Then, you have to actually put the lighter, WHILE lit, up to the gasoline.

So that's why lighters and gas are perfectly safe, and don't light on fire. People light fires.










I appreciate your effort in this matter, and you can truly argue with me and win on many fronts about pro-guns. But that concept is way to ignorant for you to believe CJ, yo'ure far to smart for that. Wash that concept out of your head.
Old 05-18-2012 | 07:57 AM
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lol looking at that video closer, under slight magnification, you can actually SEE your ego getting bigger as things progress!

lolz. Seriously looking pretty bad-*** dude. I should get a gun.
Old 05-18-2012 | 07:58 AM
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same here n it gets cold as heck
Where do you live Hustle?
Old 05-18-2012 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by aackshun
No Kinetic.

Takes more power to spin the tires from a roll than it does from a stop mangg.

Thus you can apply moar powahh to da wheelz.

...
I don't think you mean static friction. Static friction is required for control of the vehicle. Don't think about the movement of the tire, think about the speed of the contact patch of the tire relative to the speed of the contact surface of the road. It is inefficient for those speeds to not be equal.
Old 05-18-2012 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
What you're saying is that you want my car, but dropped to the pavement and the roof all goobered up with CF wrap?



Um, OK then.
............... mmk if thats what u took from it... sure
Old 05-18-2012 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by nelledge
I don't think you mean static friction. Static friction is required for control of the vehicle. Don't think about the movement of the tire, think about the speed of the contact patch of the tire relative to the speed of the contact surface of the road. It is inefficient for those speeds to not be equal.
Now that you put it that way, you're correct, my use of words are incorrect, but the theory is still there.

Roll the car a nudge then let all hell break loose.

Well for you... Different ball park, around like 3.5-4k and eaaase that sucker in.
Old 05-18-2012 | 08:09 AM
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Now that you put it that way, you're correct, my use of words are incorrect, but the theory is still there.

Roll the car a nudge then let all hell break loose.

Well for you... Different ball park, around like 3.5-4k and eaaase that sucker in.
Me? What makes you think I want to launch a vehicle? I'm vanilla normal.
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Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000
lol looking at that video closer, under slight magnification, you can actually SEE your ego getting bigger as things progress!

lolz. Seriously looking pretty bad-*** dude. I should get a gun.
No ego or attitude onlyfustrated at all this damn adoption paperwork im filling out for our youngest niece
Old 05-18-2012 | 08:12 AM
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Me? What makes you think I want to launch a vehicle? I'm vanilla normal.
I'm just planting a seed in the back of your head, give it some time
Old 05-18-2012 | 08:12 AM
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Had to chime in here - this guns argument is old as sin. Reminds me of the old slogan not a single person has ever died of AIDS, since they all die from some disease or infection that sets on after AIDS wipes out their immune system.

They are just legalist aruments that while technically correct, are completely devoid of common sense. People die as a result of acquiring AIDS. People kill people (or themselves) by means of handguns. But the argument is circular and is never going to end... and don't get me wrong, I'm not against firearms, but some people just should not have access to them - just like some people should never be given a driver's license! 'nuff said.

On another topic, guess who I ran into last night: The owner of ILL MAX, aka jdubb (this one: http://forums.maxima.org/album.php?albumid=6585)! He wasn't in his ride, but we had a very nice chat. I was kind of humbled - him complimenting my ride. Hopefully he'll step back into the org here.
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lol looking at that video closer, under slight magnification, you can actually SEE your ego getting bigger as things progress!

lolz. Seriously looking pretty bad-*** dude. I should get a gun.
Don't blame the Americans for being a gun toting society Tuner. Their culture is one of fear and paranoia. They have been indoctrinated since birth too think that the enemy is at the front door waiting too kill them all in their sleep.

They are so frightened many of them cannot feel safe until they have something in their hand that can kill another human being instantly. And hey, if everyone else has that mentality one feels obligated too join the crowd so as not too appear weak.

"The only thing to fear is fear itself" FDR
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Ok we need maxima.org models and I think I'm the guy to find them B)
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Females not male CJ cuz I know your going to be the first to say something dumb.. or men dress like women
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Originally Posted by nelledge
I don't think you mean static friction. Static friction is required for control of the vehicle. Don't think about the movement of the tire, think about the speed of the contact patch of the tire relative to the speed of the contact surface of the road. It is inefficient for those speeds to not be equal.
Static = NOT moving
Kinetic = Moving



I think you might be blowing my mind though, so if that's the case, I need further explaination
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No ego or attitude onlyfustrated at all this damn adoption paperwork im filling out for our youngest niece
Sounds like a situation, hope all goes well, and if you're adopting, I am very happy for you dude, how old is she?

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Don't blame the Americans for being a gun toting society Tuner. Their culture is one of fear and paranoia. They have been indoctrinated since birth too think that the enemy is at the front door waiting too kill them all in their sleep.

They are so frightened many of them cannot feel safe until they have something in their hand that can kill another human being instantly. And hey, if everyone else has that mentality one feels obligated too join the crowd so as not too appear weak.

"The only thing to fear is fear itself" FDR
Everything I know/see lends me to agree with this.

But we're just Canadian, we know nothing, nothing we think applies. There's this magical line below us where we enter a completely different world that in no way applies to us or our views.



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Ok we need maxima.org models and I think I'm the guy to find them B)
Best thing clashez has ever thought of ???


I think so.


Agree x1049809280921

Though, I'm not sure with your taste, that you're the one to find them. None-the-less I would like to see this come to fruition.
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Ok we need maxima.org models and I think I'm the guy to find them B)
you have my whole-hearted support
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Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000
Static = NOT moving
Kinetic = Moving



I think you might be blowing my mind though, so if that's the case, I need further explaination
That's true in most sinces, but in the case of tires it's slightly different.

The contact patch of Tire to Pavement = Static friction, even when the car is moving.

I remember failing this problem in Dynamics last semester, because the contact patch on the tire remains static in relation to the ground.

Nelledge is correct, and the nightmares of Dynamics haunt me again.
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Don't blame the Americans for being a gun toting society Tuner. Their culture is one of fear and paranoia. They have been indoctrinated since birth too think that the enemy is at the front door waiting too kill them all in their sleep.

They are so frightened many of them cannot feel safe until they have something in their hand that can kill another human being instantly. And hey, if everyone else has that mentality one feels obligated too join the crowd so as not too appear weak.

"The only thing to fear is fear itself" FDR
I see your point of view, but don't necessarily agree that's the reason. From last past couple of centuries, having guns in this Country was perfectly normal - almost like a right of passage (kind of like teenagers getting their first car in this day and age). Back then, weapons were a valued hunting tool, and having every "man" in the house carry them was not only accepted, but expected. The evolution into urban civilization did away for their "need" but the outlaw movement became more of a "crowd control" measure. Nowadays, gun ownership is widely accepted in rural areas, whereas in urban areas, any aggression is highly chastised by the law and just about anything can be deemed a deadly weapon. Guns being the most powerful in the weapon category, necessarily became the target of "de-armament."

In our era, raising your hand in self-defense is very risky, because the intended victims end up being charged with committing assault. People lose thier jobs for confronting robbers. The backwards logic is almost laughable. The interesting statistic though, is that the Countries with the most liberal gun laws have the lowest crime rates. Why? Most hoodlums are opportunists. The opportunity is greatly diminished and the risk greatly increased when any given intended victim is likely to have a firearm with them vs here, where it's very unlikely.

So in a way you are right, but the long absence of hostile invaders has turned the paranoia into the perceived enemy being any fellow citizen.


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