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Old May 21, 2012 | 04:18 PM
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A little low for my tastes, but God bless is the new M sexy
I love Kenny's car.
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It's a good thing I didn't graduate yet and don't have money because if I did I would be thoroughly torn between getting a G37 or a Mustang GT. Both to be accompanied by a beater so they would not have the burden of being daily drivers of course.
Old May 21, 2012 | 04:32 PM
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It's a good thing I didn't graduate yet and don't have money because if I did I would be thoroughly torn between getting a G37 or a Mustang GT. Both to be accompanied by a beater so they would not have the burden of being daily drivers of course.
Are you looking for straight-line speed or corner diving goodness?
Old May 21, 2012 | 04:47 PM
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Are you looking for straight-line speed or corner diving goodness?
Probably more occasional straight-line speed because I really don't drive all that hard. Obviously when the time comes I'll give both a drive and while testosterone and the thrill-seeking part of my brain will probably say Mustang, I'm sure my common sense will say G37.

I drove a 5.0 Mustang across a parking lot one time and I've never driven a G37, but I'm sure Rochester's assessment from a while ago will probably hold true. Driving a Mustang, or really any other similar V8 muscle car, is a hell of a lot of fun but you're in one gear: go. The car wants to go ***** to the wall all the time. In a car like the G, you have some nice getup but you can also smoothly cruise along when you want to, too.

Two more years of college... two more years of college...
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Old May 21, 2012 | 05:35 PM
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I noticed that it's the screw in bump stops that cause the wobbling.
Their height is wrong. They should be a little taller for the hood to rest solidly on them. I unscrew mine a bit to keep it tight whenever the hood start wobbling haha.

I never had this problem on my '00.

I have said that everytime someone complains about there hood and yet nobody listens Did that on my 03 and hood never budged again
Old May 21, 2012 | 05:38 PM
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beautifull 4th gen, Turbo or S/C'd
Old May 21, 2012 | 05:44 PM
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Probably more occasional straight-line speed because I really don't drive all that hard. Obviously when the time comes I'll give both a drive and while testosterone and the thrill-seeking part of my brain will probably say Mustang, I'm sure my common sense will say G37.

I drove a 5.0 Mustang across a parking lot one time and I've never driven a G37, but I'm sure Rochester's assessment from a while ago will probably hold true. Driving a Mustang, or really any other similar V8 muscle car, is a hell of a lot of fun but you're in one gear: go. The car wants to go ***** to the wall all the time. In a car like the G, you have some nice getup but you can also smoothly cruise along when you want to, too.

Two more years of college... two more years of college...
That's my biggest argument with domestic muscle cars. All they have is one speed... And it's a back-breaking ride, too. Especially in older muscle cars.

Don't get me wrong, they're a blast. When you want to go fast. But when you're just wanting to cruise around, they get kind of old and tiresome. My buddy has a '07 Mustang with the 4.0 V6 Pony Package. It looks good, but MAN is that thing a drag to be stuck in for hours on end. The seats are comfortable...but it's loud, noisy and bumpy.

That's why I'm so content with my G35. I know everyone on here likes to dog on it being "slow," but it's still quicker than your average commuter car. So it has enough oomph to go when I want to, but it's also comfortable and refined if I just want to go cruising. Which is also a big plus on long road trips.

For what it's worth, the G37 is nearly as punchy as most of the domestic muscle cars out there. It just isn't delivered in that same break-your-beck fashion, because the powerband is more linear, and there's so much more refinement to the VQ37 than there is to most of those small block V8's.
Old May 21, 2012 | 05:56 PM
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I have said that everytime someone complains about there hood and yet nobody listens Did that on my 03 and hood never budged again
Except for the part where my G coupe doesn't have those.
Old May 21, 2012 | 05:57 PM
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I like mine.
Old May 21, 2012 | 05:59 PM
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Are you looking for straight-line speed or corner diving goodness?
The new Mustang GT's actually handle pretty well. I saw a Youtube vid of one and a M3 on a track, and they turned nearly identical lap times.
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beautifull 4th gen, Turbo or S/C'd
Full VQ35 swap and turbo'd.

Originally Posted by T_Behr904
I like mine.
I'm sure I'll like it. Got it for a steal and will be selling my Amsoil 3" to a friend.
Old May 21, 2012 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by T_Behr904
The new Mustang GT's actually handle pretty well. I saw a Youtube vid of one and a M3 on a track, and they turned nearly identical lap times.
The new GT does have pretty good stability and tracking, I will give it that. But at the end of the day, Ford is still cutting corners, and putting solid rear ends in the Mustang. Good for dragging, yes. But not for cornering. Imagine how much faster the Mustang would be in and out of the corners if they put an independent rear end on the car.

I bet if you put a G37 with a fully modified suspension up against a Mustang GT with a fully modified suspension, the contest would be a blow-out.
Old May 21, 2012 | 06:20 PM
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Also, caught this rolling through town today:



Yes, it's real.
Old May 21, 2012 | 06:21 PM
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That's my biggest argument with domestic muscle cars. All they have is one speed... And it's a back-breaking ride, too. Especially in older muscle cars.

Don't get me wrong, they're a blast. When you want to go fast. But when you're just wanting to cruise around, they get kind of old and tiresome. My buddy has a '07 Mustang with the 4.0 V6 Pony Package. It looks good, but MAN is that thing a drag to be stuck in for hours on end. The seats are comfortable...but it's loud, noisy and bumpy.

That's why I'm so content with my G35. I know everyone on here likes to dog on it being "slow," but it's still quicker than your average commuter car. So it has enough oomph to go when I want to, but it's also comfortable and refined if I just want to go cruising. Which is also a big plus on long road trips.

For what it's worth, the G37 is nearly as punchy as most of the domestic muscle cars out there. It just isn't delivered in that same break-your-beck fashion, because the powerband is more linear, and there's so much more refinement to the VQ37 than there is to most of those small block V8's.
My Hemi Magnum was a super awesome cruiser when you wanted and a break-your-back speed demon when you stomped on it. I had a ton of room inside, it was quiet (although a little on the cheap side for interior plastics), it had all the bells and whistles like Nav, dual climate zones, heated seats, bluetooth, auto mirror, steering wheel controls. It was a dead-nuts reliable 5.7L V8 that got me over 25MPG cruising down the freeway (15 in town though...). I so want another one... an SRT model actually.

Not all modern muscle cars are loud, noisy, and bumpy.
Old May 21, 2012 | 06:25 PM
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get the 240 and nismo it out the correct way
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Old May 21, 2012 | 06:31 PM
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My Hemi Magnum was a super awesome cruiser when you wanted and a break-your-back speed demon when you stomped on it. I had a ton of room inside, it was quiet (although a little on the cheap side for interior plastics), it had all the bells and whistles like Nav, dual climate zones, heated seats, bluetooth, auto mirror, steering wheel controls. It was a dead-nuts reliable 5.7L V8 that got me over 25MPG cruising down the freeway (15 in town though...). I so want another one... an SRT model actually.

Not all modern muscle cars are loud, noisy, and bumpy.
If you want to get technical. Sports coupes.

I know a lot of people like the Magnum, and don't get me wrong, it's a nice car. But I didn't like it when I drove it. It literally felt like a tank through the corners. Then again, I also drove the V6, and not the SRT-8. I also drove an AWD Chrysler 300. Quick car. But man it felt sloppy trying to get the *** end to go around a corner...

The only argument I have with Mopar is that while Ford is continuing to improve on their interior fit and finish (and GM is FINALLY starting to do the same), everything inside of a Mopar, even on fully-loaded models, still feels cheap and lackluster.

Don't get me wrong. Mopar makes some decent cars, and I LOVE the look of the Challenger (it looks the more similar to its classic, older brother than either the Mustang or the Camaro), and I really hope that they do decide to re-release the Roadrunner as well, but Mopar still has a lot of catching up to do when it comes to battling it out with Ford and GM...

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oan i think my wifes friend tried hitting on me in the grocery store this morning she asked if i could come ova and mow her grass...confused
Must be cause, why cant he cut the grass....
Old May 21, 2012 | 06:32 PM
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The new GT does have pretty good stability and tracking, I will give it that. But at the end of the day, Ford is still cutting corners, and putting solid rear ends in the Mustang. Good for dragging, yes. But not for cornering. Imagine how much faster the Mustang would be in and out of the corners if they put an independent rear end on the car.
Just because a car has a live rear axle doesn't necessarily mean it can't handle as well as IRS. Yes, the axle is cheaper in parts, but R&D also comes into play in the cost. And can be good for cornering. Live axles are still being used in Nascar. And if a live axle Mustang can run identical lap times of the almighty M3, that's quite impressive, and for a much cheaper price, too.

Will the Mustang go back to the Irs of the Cobra that was built 10 years ago? Tough to say. Remember, Ford wants to keep it's Mustang priced comparably with it's competiton, the Camaro and Challenger.
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beautifull 4th gen, Turbo or S/C'd
Thanks for the compliment.

It is turbo-charged.

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5th gen wobble around 95 is just terrible. It scared me and why I went with a 96 which come to find out is the best max ever made
Old May 21, 2012 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by T_Behr904
Just because a car has a live rear axle doesn't necessarily mean it can't handle as well as IRS. Yes, the axle is cheaper in parts, but R&D also comes into play in the cost. And can be good for cornering. Live axles are still being used in Nascar. And if a live axle Mustang can run identical lap times of the almighty M3, that's quite impressive, and for a much cheaper price, too.

Will the Mustang go back to the Irs of the Cobra that was built 10 years ago? Tough to say. Remember, Ford wants to keep it's Mustang priced comparably with it's competiton, the Camaro and Challenger.
I just think Ford's decision to make another car with a live rear axle was a poor one. Granted, yes, the Mustang was originally made to be a beast in a straight line. So the LRA is good for that. The problem you run into with LRAs, though, is the inability to adjust for camber, toe and the likes. I know there's SOME adjustment, but it's not as refined as it is with IRS. I remember reading the MotorTrend (I think it was?) article about comparing the GT and the M3. The GT kept up, but from what I remember, the driver said it was a bastard coming out of the corners, whereas the M3 was sharp and crisp. So yes, for the money, the GT CAN keep up. But it would take a more experienced driver (from the sounds of it) to keep up with the M3.

Live axles are still used in NASCAR because they just go in a circle for 400 miles and then call it a day.

Also...it's well-documented that 750 WHP doesn't really play nice with universal joints over that kind of a distance.

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Thanks for the compliment.

It is turbo-charged.

Super Clean Man, what kind of Rims....
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Are you rolling on the new Rims and Tires yet....
Old May 21, 2012 | 06:53 PM
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Are you rolling on the new Rims and Tires yet.
Not yet. Mounting tires Thursday then need a wheel alignment before I mount them on the car.
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Not yet. Mounting tires Thursday then need a wheel alignment before I mount them on the car.then sending them to CJ to have them properly broken in for 6 months in exchange he sending me sammiches


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Not yet. Mounting tires Thursday then need a wheel alignment before I mount them on the car.
Should be getting mine Friday or Saturday, tires no new rims...
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Should be getting mine Friday or Saturday, tires no new rims.
You're gonna like em. I sure did.
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Chrisss. I need your help.

How's the output on the Morimoto minis? They'll supposedly drop right into the housing of the 1st gen G coupe headlights. So I may give them a shot as opposed to cutting up my housings to try and make a different projector fit.
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Hustle you picking up a set of them caribbean drums and gonna play down in OC?
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Super Clean Man, what kind of Rims....
SSR Comp-C
Old May 22, 2012 | 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Shift_Max
Thanks for the compliment.

It is turbo-charged.

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^$8500 without the seats and it is yours.
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I just think Ford's decision to make another car with a live rear axle was a poor one. Granted, yes, the Mustang was originally made to be a beast in a straight line. So the LRA is good for that. The problem you run into with LRAs, though, is the inability to adjust for camber, toe and the likes. I know there's SOME adjustment, but it's not as refined as it is with IRS.
Not necessarily 100% true. A properly designed straight axle can handle well (sometimes better than IS) due to the fact it maintains tire geometry to the pavement throughout it's travel a majority of the time. This is even true w/a solid front axle BTW. Straight axles are more harsh riding/twitchy feeling. But very linear in maintaining traction throughout it's travel up to the tire breakaway point. Properly designing an IS is complex & it's much easier to have a flawed IS than one that maintains proper geometry throughout it's travel. Due to exactly those factors you cited. If any of those geometry parameters changes w/detriment to the chassis dynamics the car will handle badly. Many IS designs are more susceptible to sudden traction loss due to bump steer/weight jacking at the limit. Semi-trailing arms & swing axles are a good example of this. The main benefit with IFS/IRS is it's more compliant w/varying road conditions, bumps, off camber, dive/squat. And give a smoother/controlled ride. Which is why IFS is a standard for cars & IRS is optional, but not better or worse in all cases.
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^$8500 without the seats and it is yours.
B1TCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! are you including a crate?
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Hustle you picking up a set of them caribbean drums and gonna play down in OC?
whatever car gets this will need 2 lanes to drive lol
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IDK if i should be happy at my MPG but i am a lil surprised... 357 (tach was started exactly 7miles late) and still a lil more to go... sure i want more but with 2 bad o2 sensors (actually not even hooked up) 1 primary and 1 secondary and a huuuuuge exhaust leak (sounds like open headers) im very surprised to be getting this much... especially when my old 5.5 is getting 320 and ranmass is getting 380 with his bad tune but so much more breather mods

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B1TCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! are you including a crate?
Everything has a price. And if somebody can give me what I am asking for it, then I will let it go.

Reason the seats are not included is because they are worth $2k a piece. So unless I get an offer for $10.5k for it, then I will remove the Legit Japan Bride's.
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I have said that everytime someone complains about there hood and yet nobody listens Did that on my 03 and hood never budged again
It's what the TSB says to do.



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