Hello everyone my car came with halogen bulb and I just saw this on ebay and purchased Bi-Xenon HID 8000K Iceberg blue it doesn't need a kit or ballast all it does just connect right into 3 terminal socket and it OEM stamped!

Here a link http://www.ebay.com/itm/H4-9003-HB2-8000K-Bi-Xenon-HID-High-Low-Beam-Headlight-Halogen-Light-Bulbs-/161014101818?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&nma=true&si=8TnG%252BNJLsMbZ2ySv6wgXoztE0IU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
Tell me what you guys think!

2001 Nissan Maxima SE

 

blue halogen not hid.

says on the page

 

Not only is that but a halogen, but it's painted blue which will give you even less light output than an OEM bulb.

 

 

but it gives me 100 more horse powahh bro!

 

Hmm... really? But after doing research they do consider it self HID... I even went to the store and I saw they have one but it cost $80 for 2 bulb. I talked to the man at the store and he said they are super bright iceberg blue just like HID kit. I guess I was wrong?

I can always return it back after 30 days. I want to try it first see what it like and how much light output I could get out from my regular bulb.

I was originally HID owner from my old car it was plug and play. But now this car it requires more wiring because I have 3 terminal socket and it only shows hi-beam which I prefer bi-xenon low/hi beam but it cost more than $150 for a kit.

If you guys can give me a great price for a right kind HID for my car and in-case you need to know what kind bulb I'm using is 9003/HB2

Thank you.

 

My local autostore won't accept return if the packaging is opened, better make sure you can do that.

 

they call it HID but its just an imitation to being HID.

Go get some PIAA bulbs and save yourself time, money, and glare.

 

dont buy those bogus bulbs. your better of getting a real HID kit. if the cops dont bother you in your area just get a 4300k pure white and aim them a bit lower so you dont blind people.


or just save up to get a 2002-2003 headlamp set and put HID in those...

 

Okay I'm not buying those bulbs then...

But since I need a bi-xenon bulbs will this works with my current ballast 35W from xentec

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-HID-Bi-Xenon-Bulb-H4-2-Low-Lo-beam-HID-Hi-beam-light-Halogen-35W-8000K-/181119495952?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a2b902f10
Let me know and thanks guys!

 

The connectors should be the same. And in my experience all of the cheap ballast/bulb combos are compatible as long as it is the right watt bulb. Keep in mind you still won't have the correct housing for hids but that is another discussion altogether.

 

HID bulbs are all the same the ballasts just have different wattage

 

I'm sorry, but all HID bulbs are not the same

 

Bulbs are not the same go buy some ebay specials and line up and compair Sylvania, Osram or Morimotos then say that

 

im talking about hid bulb wattage. theres no specific wattage on the bulbs. the wattage is just a matter of picking watt ballast wattage you want to use...

 

There is specific wattage on the bulb and they are related to the color being produced. OEM bulb is design for 35W application with 4300K color. You run this bulb on higher wattage, you will be at 3900K and it will shorten the bulb lifespan. On the other hand, The DL50 "Fat Boy" Phillips bulb is designed for >70W balast application. This bulbs cost twice as much. There is also the DL35 which is designed for 35W only application. Even Morimoto has bulb that is designed to take 50W application. Check TRS for that.

 

They put H3/H7 bulb next to the arc chamber and wire it as high beam...very creative!

I know its only $16, but I would rather buy GE Nighthawk or Phillps Extreme Vision and run relay to make sure the maximum Voltage I can get from the battery. You'll see better and have longer lifespan also.

Safe the money and go for full projector retrofit.

 

So about all those arguments about bulbs wattage well 35W is good enough for me to produce good perfect 8K iceberg blue. If I go for 55W bulbs it would be way to bright and the color would be quite bright white and little bit of tint blue unlike 35W when you can see tint blue far away.

So I've decided to just buy a bi-xenon 35W 8000K bulbs with HID for low and high beam with Hi/low controller connection.

Here what it look like in-case you're not sure what hi/low controller is

http://i00.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/6...-Headlight.jpg

I will post the result once I get the package... hopefully tomorrow! /pray

 

Confused.

Bi-xenon is a D2S projector which has a solenoid that flips up a glare shield within the projector housing that produces a "high-beam" light output. A single projector that does both low beam and high beam. Single xenon projectors only do low beam.

 

8000k is horrible the light will be useless. best to go with 4300k or even a 5000k . i wouldnt even recomend a 6000k ....

 

5000k would be the best luminescent output after that it starts decreasing, I think 6000k is around 250 lumens less then 5000k. Jumping to 8000k is half, 12000k is disgraceful. Depending if you want usability or looks is what color. Lots run 8000-12000k on show cars for looks. I personally was running 6000k fogs Andy lamps till recently. I now run 5000k more white and more light in my opinion. It's all a matter of what you want

 

No they are not you can neither buy a xenon for HID high beam and low beam for anything but it more expensive than single beam HID. You can still buy bi xenon for HID low beam and halogen for high beam it would normally come with 2 bulbs into 1 headlight housing.

D2S projector mostly comes with newer maxima model such as 2002-2003 with the projector. Buying a D2 bulb in the store or from a dealer would cost you about $100 per a bulb. But if you order online you'd get a much better cheap deal for average $30-40 a pair.

 

$30 for a pair of HID bulbs? You get what you pay for

 

Oh and by the way from your perspective that is your opinion but I have been driving a HID with 8K for almost 3 years from my old car. It a big upgrade overall from my halogen light. I"m very happy with my sexy iceberg blue headlights on my car.

1) it looks great
2) it still looks white tint of blue from my driving perspective view
3) From the outside of car is really blue
4) far away view from incoming traffic it much more like white and tint blue
5) I have not have a single problem with this color bulb never got pulled over or people complaining about it.

Maybe it because.. .it in my area where a lot people have HID in their cars. Most days now it not rare to see HID anymore unlike it was three years ago.

Most of HID dealers would neither recommend you 6k because 6K it much more brighter white with very rare hard to see little tint of blue. But the HID dealers won't recommend you using more than 8K color otherwise it for car show..

I've seen people with purple, pink and even green HID on their headlight housing without projector and they haven't got pulled over because I see those cars almost every night with it. But like I said my local area police doesn't care about lights.

I did tried to put my blue LED plate light since I thought they don't care but instead I got pulled over for that in less 1 week of use. :/

 

Duh, your HIDs are going to be brighter than the halogens.

What dude is saying is that 4300k or 5000k will give you even more useable light.

 

FYI,

5th gen Maxima OEM Headlights DO NOT come with Projector. I have 2 sets of OEM 02-03 headlights sitting in my shelf. They use D2R HID bulb which is designed OEM HID headlight with reflector system.

As far as getting those bulbs for $40, it's really your money. We're here just to share our experience with those bulbs.

 

the first HID kit I ever got was 6000K and it sucked. I gave away the bulbs after ordering 4300K bulbs. this is back when $160 was the cheapest you could get them for on ebay. blue headlights just look ricey. 4300K gives you best output, thats why all cars that come with hid use 4300K or close to it.

 

Well, It seems you're the expert here, but you mistoook a halogen bulb for HID in the first post.

You asked for opinions, then lash out when they're given.

 

To the OP, it is your money buddy. Do what makes you happy, but what these guys are trying to do is share with you the lessons they learned the hard way, so you won't make the same mistake.

When I was younger I was into the whole blue headlight, green fogs, and whatever too. Although you will see fine on a nice night, when you start driving with heavy rain, snow, or fog; you will be have to squint really hard to see whats ahead of you. Trust me. I live in an area without many street lights and poorly maintained roads with barely visible paint lines so at night I have to rely 100% on my headlights.

And when it starts pouring down at night on a dark road with oncoming cars that are blinding you, the color and amount of usable light coming from your car makes all the difference.

 

This guy may be planecrashes cousin...

 

Planecrash is MIA.
Maybe he created a new account and has 10 posts. Lol

 

I appreciate your honestly and rest of you guys helping me out. I'm not here to make an argument or disagreements and yeah you guys are right 4300K does make a better output than 6K HID"s. But for me mostly of the time I'm always on the highway going back and forth from work or sometime I'd go out somewhere. I never really have a vision problem with blue lights but the deeper blue I go like 10K or higher it would be a problem. That is why I'm sticking with 8K HID's perfect vision for me and I have driven in snow, fogs and heavy rain as well with my previous HID. You're right buying a cheap HID kits are worthless but I never had a single problem with it. In the summer I'm going to retrofit to increase more output and less glare. But for right now I'm happy with what I have.

Picture here http://www.theretrofitsource.com/ima...ofitOutput.jpg

 

Good job! I'm glad you are keeping what everyone said in mind.

Just remember to keep some of those thoughts in mind as you are looking at which kit to buy. And be sure you are making a informed decision, with all the negatives and positives already in your brain. So you can be a smart shopper and not just throw money out there.

 

Hang on let's discuss the terminology here. High Intensity Discharge bulbs use high voltage in a filament less bulb to produce light. The bulb contains the noble gas Xenon. When excited by high voltage it'll glow and produce light. Fair enough.

The first types of HID lighting on the market was the reflector type. These have a xenon D2R bulb for the low beam and a halogen bulb for the high beam. The point here is the time it takes for the xenon low beam to reach operating temperature and so on. That alone makes using xenon bulbs as a high beam inefficient. Plus the strain put on the ballasts would certainly shorten their life span.

Following that we had D2S bulbs found in projector housings. The difference here was the bulb being in a projector housing behind a lens that focused the light giving that nice color cutoff you notice in your rear view mirror as color flicker.

The projectors were either a single xenon which is characterized by a fixed shield that limited the light output to that of a low beam pattern or bi-xenon which is characterized by a solenoid in the projector that moves the shield to provide a high beam pattern. Look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headlamp under heading Projector (polyellipsoidal) lamps.

Additionally have a look at hidplanet.com under the University and information articles. There is a post which provides many comparison images between low beam and high beam light output for projectors.

The HID high beam you might be speaking of at least in my knowledge is a halogen bulb that has been tinted to output a slightly blue light giving it a "HID look".

I'm not trying to argue but merely point out the technical lingo.

 

RR5,

How is it going these days? Genes1s= MSU2000 by the way.

Did you get your headlight retro done?

 

You're right.. but that was awhile ago before I even made my order getting those HID looks bulbs. Right now in my car I have bi-xenon HID HIgh/low beam both HID's running 8K. But in the summer I'm planning on to retrofit when I have the chance. But thank you for all those good depth information.

I appreciate it.

 

Hey Andrew (I think)

Not yet on the retro, I don't really have enough open space here to do this kind of work. I got thrown off track with work since September 2012.

Just wanted to clear up a couple of things. From this page http://www.moodym.com/maxima/tech/maxbulbchart.html I now see the 2001 Maxima had a dual filament bulb that produced both low and high beam. The ebay item linked in the first post incorrectly claims those bulbs are HID and bi-xenon. Looking lower on the ebay page, you'll see the following
Where D2R and D2S are bulbs for HID headlights.

Additionally, it is widely accepted on hidplanet and other HID forums that any bulb past 6,000K color temperature actually produces less usable light but is more colorful.

In my opinion, you'll get better advice if you let us know what you aim to accomplish.