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Old 10-26-2014 | 05:14 PM
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Hook up your vehicle to OBD scan tool with live feed to check for error code and impending error code.
Unfortunately, the only scan tool I have access to is at Autozone, and they said without the CEL/SES light, there's no code for them to read. Thanks, though.

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Old 10-26-2014 | 05:52 PM
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Jsmith, where are you located, if you are close to Philly I will go and check your car for free......
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Jsmith, where are you located, if you are close to Philly I will go and check your car for free......
Meeting strangers off the internet
Old 10-26-2014 | 06:07 PM
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Without the OBD scan tool with live feed. , you are fixing blindly.
Old 10-26-2014 | 06:08 PM
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Meeting strangers off the internet
Nice one......lmao
Old 10-26-2014 | 06:09 PM
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Without the OBD scan tool with live feed. , you are fixing blindly.
I have one....
Old 10-26-2014 | 06:20 PM
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Jsmith, where are you located, if you are close to Philly I will go and check your car for free......
I appreciate the offer, Lontar1, but I'm in Richmond, Virginia.

(Neat trick, though, luring people with your free OBD scans... )

Thanks!
Old 10-26-2014 | 06:27 PM
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I appreciate the offer, Lontar1, but I'm in Richmond, Virginia.

(Neat trick, though, luring people with your free OBD scans... )

Thanks!
Ill be in Richmond on Nov 21 to work on a friends car for a few hours, then drive down to Florida, if you still have the issue then, let me know and Ill check it out.
Old 10-26-2014 | 06:47 PM
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Ill be in Richmond on Nov 21 to work on a friends car for a few hours, then drive down to Florida, if you still have the issue then, let me know and Ill check it out.
That's awesome. I'll let you know, and thanks for the offer. That's why I love the .ORG and her members!

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Old 10-26-2014 | 06:57 PM
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Take some pictures !!
Old 10-26-2014 | 06:59 PM
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Take some pictures !!
Of what, George?
Old 10-26-2014 | 07:01 PM
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Of what, George?
Your cars
Old 10-26-2014 | 07:03 PM
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Your cars
Oh, sure thing, but mine is a daily driver, two kids, 255k+ miles, not a show stopper.
Old 10-26-2014 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jsmith24
Oh, sure thing, but mine is a daily driver, two kids, 255k+ miles, not a show stopper.
That's the job of the Maxima, it's your 4 DOOR SPORTS CAR.
Old 10-26-2014 | 08:44 PM
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sounds like the alternator
Old 10-26-2014 | 09:45 PM
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The op (jsmith24) checked voltage back in post # 39 and has 14.3 volts. The alternator is OK.

I have to join forces with those that suspect the MAF.
Old 10-26-2014 | 10:04 PM
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I would also check the alternator, i have had my max 2003 stall on me too while pulling out and barely made it home, replaced in under warranty and its all good now...CEL never came on nor the battery sign, and when i returned it pepboys says no problem with it..it did have a lot of oil on from a leaking valve cover gasket..seems to have been an intermittent issue with alternator. 1000 miles and no problems now..

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Old 10-27-2014 | 12:17 AM
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When your MAF starts going out, you won't throw codes. Mine sure did not until my car basically could not run anymore. I think I said that same thing in another post.

But how I diagnosed my MAF problem was unplug it. You are not at the point where I was, but basically my car had a really rough idle, the RPM would drop, car almost die, rev back up, and repeat. I unplugged the sensor and it smoothed out, plugged it back in and the rough idle came back.

Or you can get a fancy scan tool to read what your MAF is sending out. It was years ago but I think I looked at the air fuel ratio. I remember getting occasional crazy readings which would make my car die, every time it popped up.

But yeah, good luck.
Old 10-27-2014 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Leo_Koneval
When your MAF starts going out, you won't throw codes. Mine sure did not until my car basically could not run anymore. I think I said that same thing in another post.

But how I diagnosed my MAF problem was unplug it. You are not at the point where I was, but basically my car had a really rough idle, the RPM would drop, car almost die, rev back up, and repeat. I unplugged the sensor and it smoothed out, plugged it back in and the rough idle came back.

Or you can get a fancy scan tool to read what your MAF is sending out. It was years ago but I think I looked at the air fuel ratio. I remember getting occasional crazy readings which would make my car die, every time it popped up.

But yeah, good luck.

Thanks, Leo. My idle is smooth, though I suspect at least on of my plugs needs to be replaced since I get a miss every now and then. Replacing the plugs is on my list, but I've never known a bad plug to cause full shutdown, so I came here. I'm going to try to get the MAF swapped out today. We'll see what happens!

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Old 10-27-2014 | 05:48 AM
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The crankshaft or cam sensor i forget which one ,cuts off fuel pump when it's below spec .

It seems that a gst should be the first thing you need to buy before you start throwing parts at her...if you don't have a fortune to splurge with.
Old 10-27-2014 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jsmith24
Oh, sure thing, but mine is a daily driver, two kids, 255k+ miles, not a show stopper.
Mine has also 250k+ miles, and it is a daily driver.........
Old 10-27-2014 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by nestorlugo
The crankshaft or cam sensor i forget which one ,cuts off fuel pump when it's below spec .

It seems that a gst should be the first thing you need to buy before you start throwing parts at her...if you don't have a fortune to splurge with.
I hate to show my ignorance once again, but what's a "gst"?
Old 10-27-2014 | 09:19 AM
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About to bite the bullet, got a MAF specific question: I see I can get the entire assembly for about $350, or just the sensor itself for just at $100. Do I HAVE to replace the whole assembly, or can I get only the sensor?

I wouldn't jump on it so quickly, except it's doing it more and more even today.


Thanks again,

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Old 10-27-2014 | 09:36 AM
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Sensor only..... you have the housing already
Old 10-27-2014 | 09:44 AM
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Sensor only..... you have the housing already
That's what I figured, but Mother Nissan insists that, for some reason, the plastic housing must be replaced also. Oh, btw, local dealer said $529 for the assembly. Dang, I'm in the wrong line of work - I just need to open a Nissan OEM supply shop!
Old 10-27-2014 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jsmith24

I hate to show my ignorance once again, but what's a "gst"?
Its a generic scan tool .


To remove the your sensor you'll need the security t20 torx allen key.

It wouldn't be a bad idea remove the plastic housing and power wash all the dust particles from inside once you've removed the sensor.

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Old 10-27-2014 | 10:54 AM
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One thing that hasn't come up yet which might be worth checking... How many keys do you have on your keychain? Do you have a mega-huge ball of keys or just the one? Just for kicks, if you have a huge keyring, try just the key by itself.

I've seen this on two cars already: Huge heavy keyring bounces around and over the years the tumbler wears out a little bit. Hit a big enough bump or shift a little harder than usual and the engine cuts out momentarily when the switch loses contact.

Just one more thing to check
Old 10-27-2014 | 11:10 AM
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Nestor Hugo - Thanks for the "GST" info. My sensor was just T-20, no security nipple. As for the plastic air box housing - oh yeah, as dirty as the outside of my car may be, whenever I take something apart it gets a thorough cleaning! I can't believe how much actual dirt, not dust was in there, along with huge leaves and three or four yellow-jacket wasps.

Montego Murph - I've always had just the one key. I actually thought about what you said when it first happened and tried to jiggle the key manually in all sorts of ways to see if I could get it to give a false "ignition off" reading, but it was fine.

Okay, well, just took it apart, cleaned the MAF, inner screen, air box, all that jazz, just gotta wait for the sensor to arrive now I guess and drive with the old one as best I can.

Thanks, gents - I'll let you know what happens.

Jack
Old 10-27-2014 | 11:11 AM
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The difference between the 2001 MAF and the 2002-2003 MAF is a 79-cent termistor. I thought this was common knowledge in the 5th Gen forum.

I replaced my MAF sensor at 70K as a precautionary measure, way back when. Someone on the forum who did the research kindly mailed me the thermistor, and I soldered it into a 2001 MAF. Worked like a charm for my last year or two of ownership, and the two years of ownership for the next guy.

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Old 10-27-2014 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jsmith24
That's what I figured, but Mother Nissan insists that, for some reason, the plastic housing must be replaced also. Oh, btw, local dealer said $529 for the assembly. Dang, I'm in the wrong line of work - I just need to open a Nissan OEM supply shop!
Oh trust me, you should..
Old 10-29-2014 | 05:55 PM
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Now, I'm not going to complain about my Maxima, because I've got one of the "blessed" ones. I got 240k miles on the original clutch (still worked fine when I replaced it, just being cautious), never had the recurring MAF sensor problems like some folks, or the broken timing chain guide or any of that (KNOCK ON WOOD), but get this - I ordered the new MAF yesterday, and ever since I clicked "Purchase", the car has behaved perfectly.

I may have stumbled onto some magical mechanics...You don't even have to install a part, just order it and *threaten* to install it!

Old 10-29-2014 | 07:09 PM
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even if it now is behaving just consider the new MAF preventative maintenance. if your original lasted you 250k+ miles, your replacement should cover the rest of your ownership
Old 10-29-2014 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by cornholio
even if it now is behaving just consider the new MAF preventative maintenance. if your original lasted you 250k+ miles, your replacement should cover the rest of your ownership
Oh, I know. I was just contemplating the irony of it all. I *think* it's irony...

Either way, the part arrives tomorrow and gets swapped out. Just for kicks I'll reset the ECU and do the throttle learning procedure. Can't hurt, so...

Next month - plugs.
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