Valve Cover Replacement Issues
#1
Valve Cover Replacement Issues
Was getting a camshaft sensor (rear, left?) code and dug into the engine to find it. Removed the air cleaner to get to it, looking to see how difficult it would be to replace. While putting the air cleaner assembly back in, the hose leading into the front valve cover broke off. Discovered the hose fitting broke right off the front valve cover. So new valve covers too.
So the new covers come in today. I removed all the connectors and hoses to the air intake and the air intake itself. Replaced both valve covers then reinstalled the air intake and all the hoses/connectors. The engine starts but is VERY rough and dies after a few seconds, maybe a minute. I also hear what sounds like a classic horror film scream on initial start, bit higher pitched. "Scream" also happens if I push on the gas. I've searched and searched but can't find anything that isn't plugged in or connected. Also throwing several trouble codes which I've not written down yet but will get tomorrow.
Car was running fine until the camshaft sensor code popped up. Was hard to start when that started but still drove fine. What may I have done, or missed, that would be causing this?
So the new covers come in today. I removed all the connectors and hoses to the air intake and the air intake itself. Replaced both valve covers then reinstalled the air intake and all the hoses/connectors. The engine starts but is VERY rough and dies after a few seconds, maybe a minute. I also hear what sounds like a classic horror film scream on initial start, bit higher pitched. "Scream" also happens if I push on the gas. I've searched and searched but can't find anything that isn't plugged in or connected. Also throwing several trouble codes which I've not written down yet but will get tomorrow.
Car was running fine until the camshaft sensor code popped up. Was hard to start when that started but still drove fine. What may I have done, or missed, that would be causing this?
#4
Sounds like a rather large vacuum leak. Did you use RTV when installing valve covers? Did you reuse damaged gaskets? Damaged hoses? Torqued correctly? Something was not put back together correctly. Be prepared to take stuff apart and do it all over again.
#6
What year is the car? There are distinct differences between the 3 and 3.5 liter cars.
Will it stay running it you rev it up and hold a higher RPM?
The first thing I would do is pinpoint the location of the screaming sound. Have someone rev it (or do it your self if it's a 3.0 car) while you listen. Hopefully that will lead you to a split boot or other vacuum leak.
If you can pinpoint the general location of the sound, spray it with some brake parts cleaner while the car is running. When the spray hits a vacuum leak the RPMs will jump up for a few seconds.
A vacuum leak will throw all sorts of codes if it's bad enough to stall the car.
Will it stay running it you rev it up and hold a higher RPM?
The first thing I would do is pinpoint the location of the screaming sound. Have someone rev it (or do it your self if it's a 3.0 car) while you listen. Hopefully that will lead you to a split boot or other vacuum leak.
If you can pinpoint the general location of the sound, spray it with some brake parts cleaner while the car is running. When the spray hits a vacuum leak the RPMs will jump up for a few seconds.
A vacuum leak will throw all sorts of codes if it's bad enough to stall the car.
#7
Thanks for all the help so far.
Here's the codes I'm reading:
P1122 Electronic Throttle Control Actuator
P0223 TPS/Pedal Position Sensor/Switch B Circuit High Input
P1224 Throttle Position Sensor 2
P0340 Camshaft Position Sensor A - Bank 1 Circuit Malfunction
Here's the codes I'm reading:
P1122 Electronic Throttle Control Actuator
P0223 TPS/Pedal Position Sensor/Switch B Circuit High Input
P1224 Throttle Position Sensor 2
P0340 Camshaft Position Sensor A - Bank 1 Circuit Malfunction
#8
Relearn idle
#11
When I initially tested my work, the car started and died. Tried it a few times with the same results. Checked for anything I missed and found the throttle was not plugged back in. Once I plugged it back in I started getting the current symptoms. Did not mess with the throttle butterfly.
#13
Think I've got it solved. Got the wife to start the car for me so I could attempt to locate the wailing. Was able to tell that is was coming from the top of the manifold/elbow seam. Grabbed one of the bolts and it spun freely. I instantly remembered that during tear-down I had had a "dumbass" moment.
When attempting to remove the 2 bolts from the elbow bracket back behind the manifold, I started to remove the 2 top bolts securing the elbow to the manifold. I realized what I was doing before fully removing the bolts and apparently never tightened them back up. Tightened those back and engine starts right up. Runs, and sounds, fine. Have not taken it for a test drive yet but so far so good.
Thank you all for the help!
When attempting to remove the 2 bolts from the elbow bracket back behind the manifold, I started to remove the 2 top bolts securing the elbow to the manifold. I realized what I was doing before fully removing the bolts and apparently never tightened them back up. Tightened those back and engine starts right up. Runs, and sounds, fine. Have not taken it for a test drive yet but so far so good.
Thank you all for the help!
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