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After getting warm I get a crank no start situation

Old 03-12-2019, 06:30 PM
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After getting warm I get a crank no start situation

I just bought an 03 maxima. It starts fine when the motor is cold, but after you drive it and heat it up it gives a crank no start. I have had it on the computer and change the camshaft position sensor. Still does the same thing. Put it back on the computer and it shows no codes. I noticed that the radiator fans arenít running but not over heating. Iíve chased about everything I can think of to no conclusions. When it starts it runs perfectly smooth just when it gets warm it doesnít restart. Also I can take the ground off the battery for about 2 mins and it will start right back up .
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Old 03-12-2019, 08:32 PM
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I just bought an 03 maxima. It starts fine when the motor is cold, but after you drive it and heat it up it gives a crank no start. I have had it on the computer and change the camshaft position sensor. Still does the same thing. Put it back on the computer and it shows no codes. I noticed that the radiator fans arenít running but not over heating. Iíve chased about everything I can think of to no conclusions. When it starts it runs perfectly smooth just when it gets warm it doesnít restart. Also I can take the ground off the battery for about 2 mins and it will start right back up .
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You need to clean your throttle body. I am pretty sure your problem will go away once you do that.
Be aware: You car has an electronic TB control, so you must be careful not to touch/move the plate. There are many threads discussing this subject.
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Old 03-13-2019, 05:29 AM
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I tried cleaning the throttle bottle

I tried cleaning that last night, cleaning it with throttle body clearer real good getting a good bit of stuff out and figured that would get it but drove it afterwards and same deal when it gets good and warm no start.
A friend of mine who is a reputable mechanic said maybe try the ECT sensor and see if it makes any difference since I have the issue with the fans not kicking on. I tested the fans with 12 volt power directly to the fan motor and they run that way. Has anybody ever had a no start when warm due to ECT sensor?
im no mechanical wiz lol Iím the son of a heavy equipment mechanic but chose a different career Iím navigating ďor trying to ď on common sense and help from others
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Old 03-13-2019, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by maxiiiboy View Post
You need to clean your throttle body. I am pretty sure your problem will go away once you do that.
Be aware: You car has an electronic TB control, so you must be careful not to touch/move the plate. There are many threads discussing this subject.
I tried cleaning the throttle body and drove it only to have the same issue. Since the radiator fans arenít kicking on could it be an ECT sensor? I tested the fan motors with 12 volt power from the battery directly to the fan motor and they run fine.
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Old 03-13-2019, 10:32 AM
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Yes, you can try changing the ECTS. It's not expensive https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...+/+sensor,4748
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Yes, you can try changing the ECTS. It's not expensive https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...+/+sensor,4748
I tried changing it this morning and it didnít change anything lol Iím just about to give up. I had it put on a 4th computer and it still shows no codes. Itís seriously aggravating cause the car runs so good and smooth
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Old 03-13-2019, 11:44 AM
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Does the red light by the clock stay on when you try to start the car?

The other security system is the NATS/NVIS system. This one centers around the chip in the ignition key. As you probably know, the ignition keys have to be programmed to the car. This system has been known to burp and activate by itself. When activated, the NATS system will allow the starter to crank the engine, but the engine will not start because NATS has turned the fuel injectors off. The red led in with the clock will be illuminated when trying to start the car if NATS is activated.

https://maxima.org/forums/5th-genera...-fuses-ok.html
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Old 03-13-2019, 12:33 PM
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Sounds like you are having the exact same issue as this guy:


His problem was the fuel pump (faulty check valve on the sending unit not getting sufficient pressure after warmup.) Also note that he says pulling the temperature switch wire harness would eventually allow the car to start since by pulling the harness the ECM thinks it's a cold start and adjusts the timing to compensate. You may be essentially doing the same thing by pulling the ground cable off the battery.

Hope this helps, good luck
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NATS system

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Does the red light by the clock stay on when you try to start the car?

The other security system is the NATS/NVIS system. This one centers around the chip in the ignition key. As you probably know, the ignition keys have to be programmed to the car. This system has been known to burp and activate by itself. When activated, the NATS system will allow the starter to crank the engine, but the engine will not start because NATS has turned the fuel injectors off. The red led in with the clock will be illuminated when trying to start the car if NATS is activated.

https://maxima.org/forums/5th-genera...-fuses-ok.html
thank you very much I havenít noticed that I am going to check that now cause there is times you can take the key out and put it back in and it will start but Iíll go check that now thanks alot
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Old 03-13-2019, 05:39 PM
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Just out of curiosity, when you say changed the camshaft position sensor - did you swap in an OEM part? Many people have tried using knock offs; which for many things are fine, but in this case, they will just make things worse. Also, it helps if you change both cam sensors and the crank sensor at the same time.
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Old 03-14-2019, 07:34 AM
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Werd, Hitachi or OEM (which is normally Hitachi made) are the only stable ones. Swap out the crankshaft and two cam sensors at the same time.
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i have had this issue over the years, it went away though, but it was to my knowledge a dirty throttle body plate
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Old 03-15-2019, 02:21 AM
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BUT.....he said he could disconnect the battery ground for a few minutes and it will start again properly. That's strange.
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Old 03-15-2019, 08:58 AM
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BUT.....he said he could disconnect the battery ground for a few minutes and it will start again properly. That's strange.
That's why I find it amazing that everyone is completely ignoring the fact that it's the fuel pump, as shown in the video I posted above.

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Originally Posted by chop_sooie View Post
That's why I find it amazing that everyone is completely ignoring the fact that it's the fuel pump, as shown in the video I posted above.
Makes sense. Does this mean the original poster of the thread would not hear the fuel pump and or relay come on when you try to start it when hot? Not hearing it prime the system?
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Old 03-20-2019, 07:25 PM
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Makes sense. Does this mean the original poster of the thread would not hear the fuel pump and or relay come on when you try to start it when hot? Not hearing it prime the system?
Dude never came back so we may never know.
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Old 03-28-2019, 11:59 AM
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Dude never came back so we may never know.
He should be banned forever for not following up on this. I f****ing hate that.
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