2K2 Auto w/ 4 passengers VS BMW 530i w/ 2
05-05-2002, 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by MAX2000JP
Your intake and exhaust adds roughly 13 crank hp. Thats a pretty decent gain right there for the money. Im just saying, if the 330i was modded with intake and exhaust, the outcome would be different.
Your intake and exhaust adds roughly 13 crank hp. Thats a pretty decent gain right there for the money. Im just saying, if the 330i was modded with intake and exhaust, the outcome would be different.
his intake adds 10hp to the wheels, how much you think is at crank
also with the exhust how can it only be 13hp to crank, it would be at around 14 or 15hp to wheels
and don't underestimate the 2k2 with mods, if only an intake adds 14tq and 10hp, imagine what a Y-pipe will do!!, how much does an intake on the 330i adds to the wheels?
05-05-2002, 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by kloogy
Ok Max..we can agree to disagree, no biggie.. Do you really think an intate can produce that kind of gain in HP ?
Ok Max..we can agree to disagree, no biggie.. Do you really think an intate can produce that kind of gain in HP ?
05-05-2002, 05:38 PM
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heres a quick list of mods for the 330i:
http://www.dinanbmw.com/Products/3series/330i/330i.html
http://www.dinanbmw.com/Products/3series/330i/330i.html
05-05-2002, 05:44 PM
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I would be curious to see the prices on those MOD'S .. Coming from the V8 market, Im having a hard time dealing with Maxima aftermarket prices...That carbon fiber engine cover looks nice..but I still say, NO BEEMER for me ! I'll take that E55 in Black on Black please !, and throw in the Brabus exhaust...
05-05-2002, 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by kloogy
I would be curious to see the prices on those MOD'S .. Coming from the V8 market, Im having a hard time dealing with Maxima aftermarket prices...That carbon fiber engine cover looks nice..but I still say, NO BEEMER for me ! I'll take that E55 in Black on Black please !, and throw in the Brabus exhaust...
I would be curious to see the prices on those MOD'S .. Coming from the V8 market, Im having a hard time dealing with Maxima aftermarket prices...That carbon fiber engine cover looks nice..but I still say, NO BEEMER for me ! I'll take that E55 in Black on Black please !, and throw in the Brabus exhaust...
05-05-2002, 05:54 PM
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Guess who that 50th state is where it's not legal ! YOu got it ! 
The freakin tree hugging state I'm in ! California.... where a cop with a wild hair up his rear can tow your car in for your Frankencar, or even clear lights.. !
The freakin tree hugging state I'm in ! California.... where a cop with a wild hair up his rear can tow your car in for your Frankencar, or even clear lights.. !
05-05-2002, 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by MAX2000JP
Performance Data:
Peak Horsepower Gain .......... 11 bhp @ 6500 rpm
Peak Torque Gain ................. 9 lb/ft @ 6500 rpm
*49 State Emissions Legal
those are from dinanbmw.com
Performance Data:
Peak Horsepower Gain .......... 11 bhp @ 6500 rpm
Peak Torque Gain ................. 9 lb/ft @ 6500 rpm
*49 State Emissions Legal
those are from dinanbmw.com
05-05-2002, 07:21 PM
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The 3-series is actually limited to 128, but is capable of much more...
525i and 530i: 128 mph
540i: 155 mph
All 7 series: 155 mph
All M's are limited to 155 as well...
Straight from the dealership...
525i and 530i: 128 mph
540i: 155 mph
All 7 series: 155 mph
All M's are limited to 155 as well...
Straight from the dealership...
Originally posted by Max2000JP
7 series are limited at 128, unless it is a sport package.
7 series are limited at 128, unless it is a sport package.
My dad's friend had told me about that at the dealership but I brushed it aside... I think his explination was that the 7 series (w/out sport package) is aimed towards a luxurious ride (such as a Maxima GLE) and gets somewhat floaty about 130, even with its hefty weight... with the sports package its much more stable. I've cruised in my uncles 740il (w/ sport pack.) at 130-135ish, so I was thinking they all could hit 155, sorry
Ahhh, and I've gotta stop my long, boring posts...
05-05-2002, 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by MAX2000JP
Your Comparing apples to oranges. Your car is modded vs your cousins stock 330i. Put a Dinan Intake and Chip in the 330 and the outcome will be different.
Your Comparing apples to oranges. Your car is modded vs your cousins stock 330i. Put a Dinan Intake and Chip in the 330 and the outcome will be different.
yeah, I've heard those mods make a big difference--he's to scared to buy anything like that though
05-05-2002, 07:38 PM
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Originally posted by Scormunch240
My dad's friend had told me about that at the dealership but I brushed it aside... I think his explination was that the 7 series (w/out sport package) is aimed towards a luxurious ride (such as a Maxima GLE) and gets somewhat floaty about 130, even with its hefty weight... with the sports package its much more stable. I've cruised in my uncles 740il (w/ sport pack.) at 130-135ish, so I was thinking they all could hit 155, sorry
Ahhh, and I've gotta stop my long, boring posts...
My dad's friend had told me about that at the dealership but I brushed it aside... I think his explination was that the 7 series (w/out sport package) is aimed towards a luxurious ride (such as a Maxima GLE) and gets somewhat floaty about 130, even with its hefty weight... with the sports package its much more stable. I've cruised in my uncles 740il (w/ sport pack.) at 130-135ish, so I was thinking they all could hit 155, sorry
Ahhh, and I've gotta stop my long, boring posts...
The dealer was trying to make some extra money on the sport package. The 740iL is very stable at speeds above 100.
05-05-2002, 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by MAX2000JP
Performance Data:
Peak Horsepower Gain .......... 11 bhp @ 6500 rpm
Peak Torque Gain ................. 9 lb/ft @ 6500 rpm
*49 State Emissions Legal
those are from dinanbmw.com
Performance Data:
Peak Horsepower Gain .......... 11 bhp @ 6500 rpm
Peak Torque Gain ................. 9 lb/ft @ 6500 rpm
*49 State Emissions Legal
those are from dinanbmw.com
From the Dinan site - "A Stage 2 version of the Dinan Performance Engine Software is required when installing the systems, ensuring the optimum fuel mixture at higher engine speeds."
No intake will give you 11 bhp by itself.
05-05-2002, 10:54 PM
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Architecture NOT an Engineer! Let's go through the basics!!
First off hp is not everything and that is evident by the mere fact that the 330s humble A LOT of cars with more horsepower!! Secondly the bimmer has an in-line 6 which is inherently more efficient at producing usable torque. Third, the bimmers are notorious for their awesome gearing which = better take offs and all around acceleration. You say you've test driven a 330i and still "feel" like your 02 SE auto is faster, well I say it looks like your "butt dyno" needs to be adjusted. You get a 5-speed 330i and a 2k2 auto maxima side by side at 55-60 mph and the bimmer will own you. Once I get mine and you want proof come up to Dallas/Ft. Worth are and I'll demonstrate for you. Later.
Once I get mine and you want proof come up to Dallas/Ft. Worth are and I'll demonstrate for you. Later.
Originally posted by Matthew
...Lets go through some basic math here. Did you see my advantages post? The 330 has 30 less hp and 32 less torque. It weighs 60 lbs. more. And it is simply not going to take a Max 02 from a roll. Sorry. I work at an architecture firm and one of my best friends there is an absolute BMW fanatic. He owns a 325cI with 17" sport package and whenever he goes in for routine maintenance his BMW dealer gives him a black 330I for the day. I have driven it, and I OWN a 02 SE auto. SORRY. The max is faster. Look it up.
...Lets go through some basic math here. Did you see my advantages post? The 330 has 30 less hp and 32 less torque. It weighs 60 lbs. more. And it is simply not going to take a Max 02 from a roll. Sorry. I work at an architecture firm and one of my best friends there is an absolute BMW fanatic. He owns a 325cI with 17" sport package and whenever he goes in for routine maintenance his BMW dealer gives him a black 330I for the day. I have driven it, and I OWN a 02 SE auto. SORRY. The max is faster. Look it up.
05-05-2002, 11:13 PM
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I guess Ive been dreaming on every race Ive had with the "UNTOUCHABLE " 330..
... Lets say you beat, me.. [Cough Cough].... Try the same against a 2K2 6 speed.. Stock vs Stock, and the Maxis 12K cheaper ! Put that in your "BUTT DYNO" and smoke it !
... Lets say you beat, me.. [Cough Cough].... Try the same against a 2K2 6 speed.. Stock vs Stock, and the Maxis 12K cheaper ! Put that in your "BUTT DYNO" and smoke it !
05-06-2002, 06:01 AM
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Originally posted by kloogy
I guess Ive been dreaming on every race Ive had with the "UNTOUCHABLE " 330.. ... Lets say you beat, me.. [Cough Cough].... Try the same against a 2K2 6 speed.. Stock vs Stock, and the Maxis 12K cheaper ! Put that in your "BUTT DYNO" and smoke it !
I guess Ive been dreaming on every race Ive had with the "UNTOUCHABLE " 330..
... Lets say you beat, me.. [Cough Cough].... Try the same against a 2K2 6 speed.. Stock vs Stock, and the Maxis 12K cheaper ! Put that in your "BUTT DYNO" and smoke it !
05-06-2002, 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by AndyXXL
Did you buy your Maxima for racing purposes? Then you made a wrong choice. Neither Maxima nor 330i were designed for drag racing. Who cares who's faster, they are both nice cars. Better go flame those Acura drivers
Did you buy your Maxima for racing purposes? Then you made a wrong choice. Neither Maxima nor 330i were designed for drag racing. Who cares who's faster, they are both nice cars. Better go flame those Acura drivers
05-06-2002, 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by kloogy
I guess Ive been dreaming on every race Ive had with the "UNTOUCHABLE " 330..... Lets say you beat, me.. [Cough Cough].... Try the same against a 2K2 6 speed.. Stock vs Stock, and the Maxis 12K cheaper ! Put that in your "BUTT DYNO" and smoke it !
I guess Ive been dreaming on every race Ive had with the "UNTOUCHABLE " 330..... Lets say you beat, me.. [Cough Cough].... Try the same against a 2K2 6 speed.. Stock vs Stock, and the Maxis 12K cheaper ! Put that in your "BUTT DYNO" and smoke it !
Obviously there were no corners either. You would lose unless you are reasonably modded at any speed. Yes the bimmer is more expensive but it looks better, handles better, better build, better resale etc. etc. etc..
Stock for stock 6spd max vs 330 bimmer. I would put my money on the bimmer in the 1/4 for consistancy. Most people on this board who have 6spds barely break 15's high 14's because they don't know how to drive a fwd. A bimmer is much easier to launch and would be more consistant.
If you race so much maybe you should video tape some of your claims?
05-06-2002, 11:39 AM
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Re: Architecture NOT an Engineer! Let's go through the basics!!
Originally posted by DMan_2KMax
First off hp is not everything and that is evident by the mere fact that the 330s humble A LOT of cars with more horsepower!! Secondly the bimmer has an in-line 6 which is inherently more efficient at producing usable torque. Third, the bimmers are notorious for their awesome gearing which = better take offs and all around acceleration. You say you've test driven a 330i and still "feel" like your 02 SE auto is faster, well I say it looks like your "butt dyno" needs to be adjusted. You get a 5-speed 330i and a 2k2 auto maxima side by side at 55-60 mph and the bimmer will own you. Once I get mine and you want proof come up to Dallas/Ft. Worth are and I'll demonstrate for you. Later.
First off hp is not everything and that is evident by the mere fact that the 330s humble A LOT of cars with more horsepower!! Secondly the bimmer has an in-line 6 which is inherently more efficient at producing usable torque. Third, the bimmers are notorious for their awesome gearing which = better take offs and all around acceleration. You say you've test driven a 330i and still "feel" like your 02 SE auto is faster, well I say it looks like your "butt dyno" needs to be adjusted. You get a 5-speed 330i and a 2k2 auto maxima side by side at 55-60 mph and the bimmer will own you.
Once I get mine and you want proof come up to Dallas/Ft. Worth are and I'll demonstrate for you. Later.
coming my way...
05-06-2002, 11:43 AM
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Re: Re: Architecture NOT an Engineer! Let's go through the basics!!
Originally posted by Matthew
...I LIVE in Dallas/Fort Worth. Name the place. I am in North Arlington. I have looked at the numbers, on BMW's own website, and the 0-60 times for a 5-speed 330I are the same as an auto 2002 Max SE. Not to mention the Max has the bulk of its horsepower above 5000 rpms (aka from 55 or a roll, however you wanna say it.) You are only talking too, I haven't seen you bring up any solid numbers except, 'uh, I think the gearing in the 330I is better... What is your basis? I didn't come here to flame, I have presented the facts. But I seem to have a lot of coming my way...
...I LIVE in Dallas/Fort Worth. Name the place. I am in North Arlington. I have looked at the numbers, on BMW's own website, and the 0-60 times for a 5-speed 330I are the same as an auto 2002 Max SE. Not to mention the Max has the bulk of its horsepower above 5000 rpms (aka from 55 or a roll, however you wanna say it.) You are only talking too, I haven't seen you bring up any solid numbers except, 'uh, I think the gearing in the 330I is better... What is your basis? I didn't come here to flame, I have presented the facts. But I seem to have a lot of
coming my way...
05-06-2002, 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by Maxtor
How long have you had your car now? And you have raced all these 330's Obviously there were no corners either. You would lose unless you are reasonably modded at any speed.
Yes the bimmer is more expensive but it looks better, handles better, better build, better resale etc. etc. etc..
Stock for stock 6spd max vs 330 bimmer. I would put my money on the bimmer in the 1/4 for consistancy. Most people on this board who have 6spds barely break 15's high 14's because they don't know how to drive a fwd. A bimmer is much easier to launch and would be more consistant.
If you race so much maybe you should video tape some of your claims?
How long have you had your car now? And you have raced all these 330's
Obviously there were no corners either. You would lose unless you are reasonably modded at any speed. Yes the bimmer is more expensive but it looks better, handles better, better build, better resale etc. etc. etc..
Stock for stock 6spd max vs 330 bimmer. I would put my money on the bimmer in the 1/4 for consistancy. Most people on this board who have 6spds barely break 15's high 14's because they don't know how to drive a fwd. A bimmer is much easier to launch and would be more consistant.
If you race so much maybe you should video tape some of your claims?
the flat out truth is that a 2k2 max auto or stick (from my experinces) beats (not by much) a 330Ci auto or stick in the 1/4 mile--in saying that, I'm not implying the 330 is a hunk of junk as it destroys the max in other categories--this particular thread is ridiculous and filled with people making guesses and assumptions and quoting numbers without actually racing--I can't believe I even responded to such ignorant statements, it's just hard to resist b/c I can't tell if you're a lurking troll or a standup guy with bad info--have you ever post anything good about the max (sorry if I'm wrong)?
05-06-2002, 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by CoolMax
I'll give the 3.5 V6 the go-ahead in straight-line acceleration, the 330i in overall performance.
I'll give the 3.5 V6 the go-ahead in straight-line acceleration, the 330i in overall performance.
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05-06-2002, 05:24 PM
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People with 6spds " BARELY " breaking 14's..are you INSANE ? There are guys with Auto's that have broken 14's with just an intake. Are you ignorant, or just here to continue bumping this thread to the top with nonsense remarks. If you are so- PRO - BMW ! Get the hell off this board, go pay for a BMW, and RACE A 2K2 ! Oh as far as re-sale goes, if you pay 12-15K more than me, I sure hope your resale price will be higher too ! Back away from the keyboard , and visit your local Dragstrip.....Stop making a FOOL out of yourself on this thread.
05-06-2002, 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by Maxtor
Can someone please list how many people have got 14.6 or less in a "stock" 6spd Maxima vs how many people have them?
I've read a lot of posts of guys hitting 14.7+. Some guys not even getting in the 14's.
Can someone please list how many people have got 14.6 or less in a "stock" 6spd Maxima vs how many people have them?
I've read a lot of posts of guys hitting 14.7+. Some guys not even getting in the 14's.
05-06-2002, 06:26 PM
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I live in the same area LEFTCOAST lives in, Northern Inland San Diego, there are 330's and TL's... and any kind of performance sedan you can think of all over...So the chances are always there...I guess since not everyone has actually run at a track and gotten an official timeslip, we cant all document what our 1/4 mile times will be.
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