Why are the Maxima numbers lower?
#1
Why are the Maxima numbers lower?
I certainly not a racing expert but Consumers Report showed the '04 Acura TL faster than the '04 Maxima (by the slimmest of margins). Am I missing something? The '04 Acura TL weighs about 100 pounds more than the '04 Maxima (3575 vs 3473). Yet the TL has only 5 hp more (270 vs 265) and much less torque (255 vs 238). (I got these numbers from the manufacturers web pages).
Looking at ratios of hp-to-weight and torque-to-weight, the Maxima comes out better in both cases. Wouldn’t that make the Maxima a faster 0-60 and quarter mile car?
Looking at ratios of hp-to-weight and torque-to-weight, the Maxima comes out better in both cases. Wouldn’t that make the Maxima a faster 0-60 and quarter mile car?
#2
You're exactly right. With the power to weight ratio, and more importantly, the higher torque, teh Maxima's numbers should be a lot better. I asked the same questions two months ago, when I was trying to decide between the Altima and the Maxima. No one had a good answer then either. They just got ****ed at me and told me to go buy a race car if all I cared about was performance numbers.
#3
There is something more to add to the equation... Reading automobile, the TL is running lower RPMs at a given speed. Therefore there should be even more strain on the motor to go the speed. The only thing I can think is that they have less loss (slippage) in the transmission and Diff.
Automobile says the same as consumer reports. Part of the problem is that we are on 18s and they are on 17s. 17s are inhearently easier to accellerate with.
Automobile says the same as consumer reports. Part of the problem is that we are on 18s and they are on 17s. 17s are inhearently easier to accellerate with.
#7
Originally Posted by ethorn
There is something more to add to the equation... Reading automobile, the TL is running lower RPMs at a given speed. Therefore there should be even more strain on the motor to go the speed. The only thing I can think is that they have less loss (slippage) in the transmission and Diff.
Automobile says the same as consumer reports. Part of the problem is that we are on 18s and they are on 17s. 17s are inhearently easier to accellerate with.
Automobile says the same as consumer reports. Part of the problem is that we are on 18s and they are on 17s. 17s are inhearently easier to accellerate with.
#9
One of those tuner shows had an interesting dyno experience-they went to larger rotors, not necessarily heavier, and lost hp on the dyno. It was because more of the mass was farther from the axis, which took more power to spin-something unexpected to them. Another point seems to be "revability" because it seems like some engines just rev quicker-but I can't exactly pin point that to HP or gearing...
#10
Originally Posted by wrj
I certainly not a racing expert but Consumers Report showed the '04 Acura TL faster than the '04 Maxima (by the slimmest of margins). Am I missing something? The '04 Acura TL weighs about 100 pounds more than the '04 Maxima (3575 vs 3473). Yet the TL has only 5 hp more (270 vs 265) and much less torque (255 vs 238). (I got these numbers from the manufacturers web pages).
Looking at ratios of hp-to-weight and torque-to-weight, the Maxima comes out better in both cases. Wouldn’t that make the Maxima a faster 0-60 and quarter mile car?
Looking at ratios of hp-to-weight and torque-to-weight, the Maxima comes out better in both cases. Wouldn’t that make the Maxima a faster 0-60 and quarter mile car?
performance, some TLs will be faster than some maximas and some maximas will be faster than some TLs in reality.
there are many factors that will make your car slower or faster. for example,
tire pressure can effect 1/4 mile time. I'm pretty sure mags don't check tire
pressure before testing the cars...
by the way, if you just bought your maxima, check your tire pressure. when I
picked up mine, it had 50 psi in 4 tires....(just came up to my mind)
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