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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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I dunno... that Dinan carbon fiber twin inatake tube setup for the E39 M5 is teh hawtness.
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 11:37 AM
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Im not saying if I had money to burn I wouldn't do it too....
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 04BlackMaxx
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Im not saying if I had money to burn I wouldn't do it too....
Exactly.


Which is the real reason people are buying Injen intakes. It's all about the bling.

"ohhh.... it's shiney and purdy.... something that purdy has to make alot of powah."
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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do you guys keep going on and on and on and on for!!!!!!!!!! It's so hilarious, it's annoying! I thought this was a 6th Gen discussion on which intake to get? I don't think there has been a 6th Gen guy with an intake that seriously believes the numbers claimed by "any" company. However, there's only been a very few 6th Gen guys that weren't completely satisified with the INJEN intake. I don't want to reiterate the pros again, if you don't like an awesome feeling when you get into your pimp 6th gen when you hit the gas, then don't get one. If you are too cheap to spend the funds, don't get one. If you don't like the wild sound coming out, don't get one. If you don't like bling, don't get one. If you are gonna be a sucker and believe the company numbers and then not get one because they aren't "as advertised" then don't get one. Keep fooling yourselves into thinking there are no gains, when in reality the majority of the cats worried about this are just to cheap to pay for pimp stuff. NO THE GAINS AREN'T "AS ADVERTISED" but get over it, there are gains and YOU CAN FEEL THEM if you have a 6th Gen and you have the INJEN intake!!! No, it's not a supercharger, it's an intake!! Like I said, maybe some guys can't feel the low-end torque increase, go get an the SPII exhaust too maybe that will help you feel it!!!LOL! PEACE OUT, you guys keep questioning the numbers and debating over ridiculous stuff and all the guys who have spent the extra cheese to get some type of intake, Injen or not, will keep getting that rush when they cruise in their load. Oh, and I'm getting ready to get the Y-pipe, I guess there are no gains there either.....LOL!!
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
Exactly.


Which is the real reason people are buying Injen intakes. It's all about the bling.

"ohhh.... it's shiney and purdy.... something that purdy has to make alot of powah."
I kin here mah VTEC kik in betta wit da injen yo!!
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by maxdizzle1
Keep fooling yourselves into thinking there are no gains, when in reality the majority of the cats worried about this are just to cheap to pay for pimp stuff. NO THE GAINS AREN'T "AS ADVERTISED" but get over it, there are gains and YOU CAN FEEL THEM if you have a 6th Gen and you have the INJEN intake!!!

Yeah, those of use who have spent thousands of dollars in buying parts and dyno testing them are all cheap b@stards. You're right though, if I had only paid more attention to mah butt dyno and not ever had the consideration to prove anything, I know my car wouldn't be as slow as it is now.
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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I was curious to know SR2ODEN, if you even have a 6th Gen Max? If you do, do you have dyno's to prove your claims of no gains in the 6TH GEN Max with an intake, specifically the Injen? If you do, I'll be happy to listen to you. If you don't, please take your "know it all" comments to the 5th Gen forums where someone actually wants to listen and cares!!!!!!!! By the way, please get a 6th Gen Max so you can actually talk about the 6th Gens with some solid evidence to back up your talk.LOL! PEACE............
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by maxdizzle1
I was curious to know SR2ODEN, if you even have a 6th Gen Max?
Nope. I don't need to. And by the way, 0 does not = O .

If you do, do you have dyno's to prove your claims of no gains in the 6TH GEN Max with an intake, specifically the Injen?
Where did I say there were NO gains?

If you do, I'll be happy to listen to you. If you don't, please take your "know it all" comments to the 5th Gen forums where someone actually wants to listen and cares!!!!!!!!
If you don't care to know the truth or make you car faster then why are you wasting your time here? You don't speak for everyone here. Put my name on your ignore list and I wil do the same for you.

By the way, please get a 6th Gen Max so you can actually talk about the 6th Gens with some solid evidence to back up your talk.LOL! PEACE............
Yeah I need to get a 6th gen Maxima because it's SO much different than anything else that has ever been made. It's VQ35 only shares the name with all ther other VQ35s.

Are you afraid of the truth, like some other people in here?
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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I'm glad you replied! No, I'm not scared of anything, much less your superior knowledge. You were never on my list, so it's pretty easy to ignore you!!LOL! It just gets so annoying when guys think they are so brilliant when it comes to the 6th Gen Max, especially in a condescending way! Since you are the genious, you should get in with a company that you love, like Cattman, and get in on their R&D team. I'm sure they could gain tons from your expertise. Also, since you don't have the 6th Gen, aren't the other forums a better place for you? Did someone ask your opinion in the first place? By the way, please put me on your ignore list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would really appreciate it! THanks in advance for putting me on your ignore list!! HA, ha!! PEACE

Oh, and where did you put there are no gains? I quote from your previous post, "Which is the real reason people are buying Injen intakes. It's all about the bling."
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by maxdizzle1
I was curious to know SR2ODEN, if you even have a 6th Gen Max? If you do, do you have dyno's to prove your claims of no gains in the 6TH GEN Max with an intake, specifically the Injen? If you do, I'll be happy to listen to you. If you don't, please take your "know it all" comments to the 5th Gen forums where someone actually wants to listen and cares!!!!!!!! By the way, please get a 6th Gen Max so you can actually talk about the 6th Gens with some solid evidence to back up your talk.LOL! PEACE............
You dont know what the hell your talking about. This man knows more that you wish you could ever know so I would back off him. His advice is the BEST we have had in this forum. I would much rather listen to someone who knows what they are talking about that read these retarded *** replys. I would rather you leave than him, that way I know il learn something without having to troll through countless BS post that could have been left out.
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by maxdizzle1
By the way, please put me on your ignore list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would really appreciate it! THanks in advance for putting me on your ignore list!! HA, ha!! PEACE
Wish granted.
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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I saw this exact same response you wrote to another guy on here to Chris aka Chernmax stating his points about this guys responses. Man, you really are jocking this cat!! I'm not questioning the guys expertise, only his way of presentation and his LACK OF TRUE, SOLID, EVIDENCE TO PROVE HIS CONTENTIONS that the only thing gained are looks and no torque or power in the 6th Gen. I'm a lawyer man, I need proof. I'm NO IDIOT!!! Again, we can all concede the manufacturer numbers are biased and fake. I'll leave it at this and you all can bicker about it the rest of the day and for a week or so. Within' 6 months, the Dizzle will be smokin' this cats ride and lookin' more pimp in the process. Ha! Ha! Don't threaten me kid about leaving this forum. Ya' hurd!! Everyone can have their own opinion! I just asked him what Gen he had and if he was asked a question and whether another forum would be more appropriate. PEACE OUT and ya'll can trip on it for a while!!!
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 01:58 PM
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What a stupid thing to fight about... If you have been on this site more than 2 months you would know that SR20DEN knows what he is talking about. Stop wasteing everybodies time, and wasteing space
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by maxdizzle1
I was curious to know SR2ODEN, if you even have a 6th Gen Max? If you do, do you have dyno's to prove your claims of no gains in the 6TH GEN Max with an intake, specifically the Injen? If you do, I'll be happy to listen to you. If you don't, please take your "know it all" comments to the 5th Gen forums where someone actually wants to listen and cares!!!!!!!! By the way, please get a 6th Gen Max so you can actually talk about the 6th Gens with some solid evidence to back up your talk.LOL! PEACE............
Another friggin SJ.

Oh wait, you're a n00b too, talking trash to one of the most knowledgeable people on this site! And you're a lawyer! That makes it even better!
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 02:08 PM
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like i alway say in these situations... can we all just get along?
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by E55AMG2
My "holdup" is that the results are FAKE
First it was that the graphs were (possibly) Excel. Now you're calling fake. Should the runfiles be posted you'd still be calling 'fake'. Right. It's a massive plot by every manufacturer of CAIs.
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by savagecat
First it was that the graphs were (possibly) Excel. Now you're calling fake. Should the runfiles be posted you'd still be calling 'fake'. Right. It's a massive plot by every manufacturer of CAIs.

The ones you linked were definitely excel. If the runfiles were made available to me, I would examine them thoroughly to see what exactly was going on.
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by E55AMG2
The ones you linked were definitely excel. If the runfiles were made available to me, I would examine them thoroughly to see what exactly was going on.
Give AEM a call then.
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Glude
You dont know what the hell your talking about. This man knows more that you wish you could ever know so I would back off him.
For example - he's very intuitive.
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...0&postcount=16
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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I can't believe what this thread has turned into. First of all, no discredit or offense to anyone who has posted on this thread, but do you believe everything you read on the internet anyway. If someone is being immature about something, don't fuel their fire; ignore them.

I thought the topic of this thread was "Which intake is best..." and not do CAI really work as proposed.

Yes it is fishy why AEM has a freakin excel file for a Dyno run. I did not buy the intake for that reason. If you read my AEM CAI thread, I stated quote "I bought the intake for the sound first, then the HP. Since I wasn't expecting much from it, I wasn't let down."

Since we are off topic slightly, for those with aftermarket intakes who bought theirs for sound, performance, or both?
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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I see for the umteenth time you've failed to realize that Deckout lives in the same city as me. And it would be too much for you too arrive at the conclusion that he's a friend of mine.
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Squint
I can't believe what this thread has turned into. First of all, no discredit or offense to anyone who has posted on this thread, but do you believe everything you read on the internet anyway. If someone is being immature about something, don't fuel their fire; ignore them.

I thought the topic of this thread was "Which intake is best..." and not do CAI really work as proposed.

Yes it is fishy why AEM has a freakin excel file for a Dyno run. I did not buy the intake for that reason. If you read my AEM CAI thread, I stated quote "I bought the intake for the sound first, then the HP. Since I wasn't expecting much from it, I wasn't let down."

Since we are off topic slightly, for those with aftermarket intakes who bought theirs for sound, performance, or both?

This was what we were attempting to get to....but we arrived at the intellectual limits of some before we could get past the "dyno" runfiles.
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 10:57 PM
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 05:26 AM
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OK, everybody feel better now, come on people lets get back to business...
Old Aug 15, 2005 | 05:58 AM
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OK, everybody feel better now, come on people lets get back to business...
Agreed!

How about this...would there be a way to set up a forum test some way?

Get some people from both camps to witness the dyno runs where a stock 04+ was tested with a stock intake setup, converted to some aftermarket intake, and then dynoed again?

I'd be willing to donate a few bucks to it and I imagine others would as well to help defray the cost of the dyno run. After it was over, the intake could be sold on the forum to help cover its cost.

That would probably be the only way to help put this to bed.
Old Aug 15, 2005 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by darrinps
Agreed!

How about this...would there be a way to set up a forum test some way?

Get some people from both camps to witness the dyno runs where a stock 04+ was tested with a stock intake setup, converted to some aftermarket intake, and then dynoed again?

I'd be willing to donate a few bucks to it and I imagine others would as well to help defray the cost of the dyno run. After it was over, the intake could be sold on the forum to help cover its cost.

That would probably be the only way to help put this to bed.
Sounds good, but here are the problems.

Should a screenshot of the dyno be posted, someone would cry fake because it's now a image file and had the potential of being photoshopped.

Should a video of the dyno be done then that same someone would still cry fake because it too had the potential of being altered.
Old Aug 15, 2005 | 06:22 AM
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That's why we have run files that can be emailed to one another ...
Old Aug 15, 2005 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by savagecat
Sounds good, but here are the problems.

Should a screenshot of the dyno be posted, someone would cry fake because it's now a image file and had the potential of being photoshopped.

Should a video of the dyno be done then that same someone would still cry fake because it too had the potential of being altered.

Someone is sure cracking wise. You were warned once about that already. ANYWAYS, If a runfile were provided there would be no reason to call it fake or rigged. Because if it were rigged, we would be able to see that from the information provided along with the runfile. Its kinda like brushing real hard right before you go to the dentist to make up for those times you missed....they can tell when you are BSing them.
Old Aug 15, 2005 | 07:04 AM
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So I guess we need to do a few things:

1) Find someone with a stock 04+ that is willing to have their car dynoed
2) Set up an account for the donations
3) Get some folks from both sides to agree to meet during the dyno run
4) Agree on an aftermarket intake to test
5) Schedule the test
6) Test and E-mail the results

If we could all agree that the run file cannot easily be forged/altered without detection, then we could forget about item 3.

Item 4 probably isn't that big either (can assume all will perform similarly).

What might work out best is to find out who plans to get a new intake within the next month and just use their car for the test with us donating money to get the dyno run.

Maybe we could start out by posting a sticky asking people if they plan to get a new intake soon?
Old Aug 15, 2005 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by darrinps
So I guess we need to do a few things:

1) Find someone with a stock 04+ that is willing to have their car dynoed
2) Set up an account for the donations
3) Get some folks from both sides to agree to meet during the dyno run
4) Agree on an aftermarket intake to test
5) Schedule the test
6) Test and E-mail the results

If we could all agree that the run file cannot easily be forged/altered without detection, then we could forget about item 3.

Item 4 probably isn't that big either (can assume all will perform similarly).

What might work out best is to find out who plans to get a new intake within the next month and just use their car for the test with us donating money to get the dyno run.

Maybe we could start out by posting a sticky asking people if they plan to get a new intake soon?

I will gladly take on the test, I have more than one 04 at my disposal.
Old Aug 15, 2005 | 08:33 AM
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We all know the excell files are just that much harder to modify

Originally Posted by savagecat
Sounds good, but here are the problems.

Should a screenshot of the dyno be posted, someone would cry fake because it's now a image file and had the potential of being photoshopped.

Should a video of the dyno be done then that same someone would still cry fake because it too had the potential of being altered.
Old Aug 15, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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For whatever good it will do, I posted this: http://www.nissanforums.com/showthre...483#post969483 over at the Nissan Performance Mag forum.

Maybe someone will let us know what is up (why Excel files, etc.).

If my post suddenly finds its way to the bit bucket, then we will have our answer as well.
Old Aug 15, 2005 | 12:12 PM
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We all know the excell files are just that much harder to modify
True, I have a 'modifed' dyno model of my car that makes 278whp @ 7750rpm ...

E55, since you're a moderator, it be nice to see if you could set up a doantion area for the infamous and reclusive 6th gen DynoJet file.
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Originally Posted by darrinps
For whatever good it will do, I posted this: http://www.nissanforums.com/showthre...483#post969483 over at the Nissan Performance Mag forum.

Maybe someone will let us know what is up (why Excel files, etc.).

If my post suddenly finds its way to the bit bucket, then we will have our answer as well.
There are some replies now...interesting reading. In short, the plot thickens.
Old Aug 15, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by darrinps
There are some replies now...interesting reading. In short, the plot thickens.
Old Aug 15, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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Run files and screen shots....

OK, NPM is asking for run files where intakes did not show gains: http://www.nissanforums.com/showthre...819#post969819

So...who here has them?
Old Aug 15, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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Since this thread is all over the place anyways I am going to ask a very -ish question. I am running with no grill on my car right now (getting new bumper tomorrow) but it seems as if my intake is much louder with no grill. Is this because so much more air is getting in there? Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question but I just don't know for sure, makes sense but just wanted to check...
Hopefully I can just get a simple yes or no and not start a big argument over this
Old Aug 15, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by darrinps
OK, NPM is asking for run files where intakes did not show gains: http://www.nissanforums.com/showthre...819#post969819

So...who here has them?
Link them here. 260.3whp and a 14.1 @ 100........right, their #s are accurate, what a joke
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Originally Posted by jsmithsole
Since this thread is all over the place anyways I am going to ask a very -ish question. I am running with no grill on my car right now (getting new bumper tomorrow) but it seems as if my intake is much louder with no grill. Is this because so much more air is getting in there? Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question but I just don't know for sure, makes sense but just wanted to check...
Hopefully I can just get a simple yes or no and not start a big argument over this

I couldnt tell you.....
Old Aug 16, 2005 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by E55AMG2
Link them here. 260.3whp and a 14.1 @ 100........right, their #s are accurate, what a joke
He has the link to this thread and has already read it.

What I was hoping for is to have several people post back with a link to their run files and/or screen shots. I'll collect them and post a single message on that site.



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