Glude

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Get the Lspec flash and tune with an afc, u wouldnt have to worry about their preset fuel maps jackin with your car.

kamski

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So.......

Spare Ecu $150
Technosquare L spec tune $450
Apex SAFCII $300
Tuning $200 mininum.

$1100 just for computer work seems a tad on the high side.

If I just send them my ecu and have them tune it with my dyno charts, that should do it.

Unless i go FI in the future then that might be the way to go.

Kamski

!PrjctMax!

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where are you getting a spare ecu and how do you know its the EXACT one that you have? what #'s have to be the same?

Glude

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I thought the Lspec was 350 or so?? Also, I got my vafcII for 175 bucks and tuning is always going to cost some money. Would u not need the spare ecu if u got the regular flash anyways?

shawndon

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If you get the L-spec flash you will not be taking at advantage of the mods you added because it keep your A/F ratio stock or am I wrong??

NmexMAX

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That;s why he is going to get an AFC.

shawndon

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gotcha I was wondering if you would need both.

kamski

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Yeah but im worried if something messed up then I would be SOL cause nissan would even touch my car with a reprogrammed ecu.

Kamski

shawndon

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wouldn't you be able to switch them back if you are going to take it to the dealer???

shawndon

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Glude are you satisfied with afc??

kamski

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Thats why I have to get the spare ecu, finding one on-line is a wholle different story.

Kamski

NmexMAX

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The dealer wont know you did anything if you remove the decal. Also, teh dealer needs to program your new ECU to your key. TS typically gets the ECU back to you within a day or 2.

shawndon

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yeah If I decide to do the ECU reflash I'll just break down and buy one from the dealer and send the one in my car to TS. But for now I think I'll just get an afc just to be safe I really just want my A/F to be tuned after my I/Y/E get installed. I dont know if I'll notice the difference between the TS ECU and tuning with with just the AFC afc.

NmexMAX

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Main reason I got the ECU is the extended rev limiter.

!PrjctMax!

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you might as well wait. nothing will happen with just the mods you are getting besides the fact that they won't be getting used to their full potential. And if you install an AFC now then i'm not sure how the disconnecting and resplicing the wires would go with the new ecu. imo, wait for the TS flash and THEN get an AFC...that is what I am doing right now.

You WILL notice the difference between the TS flash and just an AFC. the flash does so much that an AFC can not. Some things are, DBW (drive-by wire), rev limiter, and more at this website

http://www.technosquareinc.com/maxima.htm

good luck
dan

SEBOY

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what is AFC and where you get that ????

!PrjctMax!

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air/fuel control

almost anywhere, just google it! ebay would be a good source

shawndon

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If I was to get the AFC I would look into getting a boomslang harness custon made to plug directly into it. They are local to me so the afc install would be efforttless witha plug n play harness no splicing. But like I said before I have not gotten my Y-pipe and exhaust installed yet wont be doing nothing til then.

SEBOY

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thx you

!PrjctMax!

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where do you get such a harness...? I would prefer a plug n' play over a splicing method for my NEO!

briancopeland

I know that the TS flash does more than the NEO can do (i.e. rev limiter, throttle response, etc.) However, does anyone know if it's possible to do BOTH (e.g. have TS put their program on the ECU and then use the NEO to adjust things from there?)

My "borrowed" ECU from Nissan Warranty goes out to TS via FedEx tomorrow. I'll be putting it in next Saturday and can't wait. It's going to be a long wait!

!PrjctMax!

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yea that's what most people have done and that is what I plan on doing. I already have the NEO arriving mid this week and the TS flash...just awaiting ECU arrangements

shawndon

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I'm still afraid of th3e lean condition that madmik mentioned at idle

RHMax

For the most part, TS flash have worked well; and they will fix any problems. It's best to do other mods first before ECU or it will have to be reflashed.

SweetJones

Very nice Tek

Apollos2

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Hey dont forget to do the before dynos. Then you will really know what you are gaining.

RHMax

Dyno w/ AFR. Not only for that reason, but also for TS to have an idea of where your AFR is at so they can do a better job in tuning your ECU.

SEBOY

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man i so F****** mad my english is not that F******** good and can't understand all this abouth ECU DAMNNNNNN

NmexMAX

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And preferably before the cat in order to get an accurate AFR.

RHMax

1. Get your mods.
2. Get AFR -air to fuel ratio (with dyno?).
3. Send ECU with AFR.
4. Get ECU back.
5. Happy...

RHMax

While you are most correct, it isn't really necessary for most people to gain that extra bit of power.

NmexMAX

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True in a sense. But if you're willing to pay that much (TS ECU) money for a single mod, why not get the most out of it?

!PrjctMax!

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and on money!

chernmax

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What if you tuned it with an APEXi SAFC-II on a Dyno, do you send those AFR numbers???

NmexMAX

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Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but .....
If you have an AFC, and have tuned in the past with it, there is no reason why TS should even be wanting to alter it in the first place.

RHMax

Well, TS could do a little more with linear throttle, rev limit, and the ability for you to test the speedometer with just the basic reflash and keep the settings on the SAFC, but I think you'd need to retune because the linear throttle will screw up the AF ratio.

vQ35LIFE

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2. Get AFR -air to fuel ratio (with dyno?). I Don't understand this one ?????

trance.addict

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What does Air to Fuel ratio mean? Also, The benefits of getting this flash is hp gains, right? Anything else? Thanks in advance.

RHMax

Get your car dyno with all your mods and get the Air to Fuel Ratio too, some places charge a few bucks extra. You can get the AFR w/o dyno from some auto shops too. Getting dyno can give you a reference of before and after flash.

RHMax

It's how much fuel is injected in to the cylinders in relation to the airflow. This is where the mixture can get too lean or rich of fuel and effect the power output.