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Old 01-19-2007 | 05:32 PM
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I would if I knew more about tuning using piggyback controls. Doesnt the ECU reflash from TS tune the car the way it should be tuned?
You'd need retuning once you install the headers.
Old 01-20-2007 | 12:14 PM
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Old 01-20-2007 | 02:34 PM
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catman: i have not heard anything in a while ... we still on?
Old 01-20-2007 | 02:57 PM
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I talked to Brian the other day and he said we are getting close...
Old 01-20-2007 | 08:26 PM
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So who's going to go out, buy a wideband O2 sensor & an AFC or any other piggyback than can control fuel, and finally tune using an upstream o2 sensor bung while waiting for the headers?

This way, you'll be ready for them.
i definitely forgot about that, it was on my pending list of mods to get anyway. i guess i'll be getting an AFC that prematurely.
Old 07-10-2007 | 08:38 PM
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any updates?
Old 07-10-2007 | 08:40 PM
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Try the suggestions stated here -->http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...12&postcount=2
Old 07-10-2007 | 10:55 PM
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any updates?

i have spoked w/ hinm and he stated that it should be out around the end of summer...
Old 07-11-2007 | 01:37 AM
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Is that for the y pipe or the header, or both?
Old 07-11-2007 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DeusExMaxima
Is that for the y pipe or the header, or both?
Both headers & y-pipe. . . . .
Old 07-11-2007 | 01:53 PM
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+1 on nmex ... im really excited... cant wait to get it on and then get a TSU flash...along w/ my pholenic spacer kikt
Old 07-11-2007 | 02:11 PM
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Here's an update. We've done one trial fitting of the prototype y-pipe. Pretty close, but not quite, so it was sent back for modification and will return with the fresh batch of 95-03 Maxima headers we'll receive tomorrow (12 July).

The prototype will go back on the car and we'll do some dyno runs to see what sort of power it makes. This should all be happening before the end of next week.

The y-pipes (one version for 04-06 5-speed autos and another for 04-06 6Ms and 07 CVTs) are the first half of the project and once that design is finalized and headed for production we'll start on the manifolds.

These things always take longer than expected, but at this time I'm hoping to have the y-pipes in production by late August or early September. Manifolds will come later in the Fall.

Just to be clear, unlike our 95-03 header/y-pipes, the design of the 04+ Maximas allows us to make a y-pipe that can be used by itself OR with the header manifolds. So, there's no reason not to slap the y-pipe on as soon as its ready (EASY installation) and then add the headers when they're ready (nt so easy an installation).

I hope this information is useful.

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Old 07-11-2007 | 04:03 PM
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thanks brian...

u going to need my car anymore yuo know im here if ya need it... .
Old 07-11-2007 | 06:29 PM
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Also if you still need mine let me know...I live only a few miles from the spot in Westminster where you guys didi some work already.
Old 07-11-2007 | 06:50 PM
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And of course my car is available for 6 speed manual fitting.
Old 07-11-2007 | 09:00 PM
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Thanks for the update, its nice that we have the option of buying JUST the y pipe and installing until the full set is ready.
Old 07-12-2007 | 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Glude
Thanks for the update, its nice that we have the option of buying JUST the y pipe and installing until the full set is ready.

+1 on that ... im sure it will be an easy install... like 5 bolts tops!!
Old 07-17-2007 | 04:01 PM
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Waiting for Cattmans Headers and Y-Pipes reminds me of Christmas when I was just 12 years old....... excited as all hell but still have to pay for my presents. lolololololololol I cant wait!!!!!
Old 07-17-2007 | 04:04 PM
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haha yeah man we all are...

wonder what the final HP dyno rating will be
Old 07-17-2007 | 05:44 PM
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I cant wait too. Im guessing in the 15-25 hp range.
Old 07-17-2007 | 09:27 PM
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Brian:
Any issues with SES lights on any of your test cars due to the installation of headers?
Old 07-18-2007 | 06:54 AM
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hey brian i'd make the trip to wherever youre testing at and my 07 is standing buy
Old 07-18-2007 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by maximamaximus
hey brian i'd make the trip to wherever youre testing at and my 07 is standing buy
this application is for the 04--06 ..... pretty sure the 07 would be TOTALLY different
Old 07-18-2007 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by edjose17
Brian:
Any issues with SES lights on any of your test cars due to the installation of headers?

Too soon to tell, we're finishing up the two y-pipe versions before starting on the manifolds. I'm just thankful that we know about this issue up front before starting the project (instead of finding out about it after its done, as I assume Hotshot did).

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Old 07-18-2007 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by maximamaximus
hey brian i'd make the trip to wherever youre testing at and my 07 is standing buy

My understanding is that the stock y-pipe on the '07 is like the 6M y-pipe used on the 04-06. If that's the case, the 6M version of the our 6thgen y-pipe should work on the '07 too. The difference between the 04-07 5A and 6M y-pipes is minor, so we will follow up with the 6M version shortly after the 5A version is ready.

'Course we'll still need to do a testfit of the 6M y-pipe, so DeusMaxima, we'll be calling soon.

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Old 07-18-2007 | 12:48 PM
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Cattman 6th gen y-pipe update

Thought I'd let everyone know that we did what turns out to be the final test fit of the 04-06 Maxima 5A (auto) y-pipe.

I'm very pleased with the physical part. Beautiful fit, absolutely nothing to improve.

It's on a customer's 05 5A Max now, and we will do the "after" dyno tonight. I'm not sure what to expect since I've always been a bit skeptical about the performance claims for the CE/Vibrant version of this part.

I'll try to report back tomorrow.

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Old 07-18-2007 | 02:31 PM
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yahoo gettin closer
Old 07-18-2007 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Cattman
'Course we'll still need to do a testfit of the 6M y-pipe, so DeusMaxima, we'll be calling soon.

Brian
I'll be ready for ya Brian. Looking forward to some nice gains with the y-pipe/header combo.
Old 07-18-2007 | 07:04 PM
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It's on a customer's 05 5M Max now,
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there is no 5M max, they only mad a 6sp manual
Old 07-18-2007 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Cattman
The difference between the 04-07 5A and 6M y-pipes is minor, so we will follow up with the 6M version shortly after the 5A version is ready.
Don't forget about the 4AT, there's more than just me...I think
Old 07-19-2007 | 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jsmithsole
Don't forget about the 4AT, there's more than just me...I think

We haven't forgotten. My understanding is that one of these two designs will also fit the 4A (the 6M version?).

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Old 07-19-2007 | 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by kamilkluczewski
there is no 5M max, they only mad a 6sp manual
Sorry, that was a typo. Meant 5A.
Old 07-19-2007 | 01:59 AM
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Do u have a dyno day scheduled soon for the y pipe???
Old 07-19-2007 | 02:55 AM
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Ah yes, and there would also be this small matter of...

DYNO RESULTS! Here you go:



And here's the prototype part (production will have longer flexes, fewer tubing sections and welds):



I'm sorry the dyno graph isn't clearer, but here are some of the basic #s:
(Figures given for Stock y-pipe/Cattman y-pipe)

Peak WHP, 195/205 @ 5950rpm
Max WHP difference, 10whp @ 5950rpm
Peak WTQ, 206/214 ft/lbs @ 2490rpm
Max WTQ difference, 13 ft/lbs @ 4050rpm

I'll note that these tests were done on a Mustang dyno, which is well known for low HP/TQ numbers (it seems to come in about 5-7% below a dynojet dyno). Doesn't really matter here, our main interest is the difference between the two tests, not the absolute #s.

So there you go. Given that the stock piece flows relatively well in the first place, I'm pleased with the results. The part will be a worthwhile mod by itself, and an excellent compliment to our upcoming header system.

Obviously this y-pipe does not have a cat, although we will offer a version that does. Before anyone suggests that most of the power gain is due to the absence of a cat, I'll contradict that. The new primary cats in the Maximas are extremely efficient, and don't cost much power.

I can't estimate a firm date for the release of a production version, but it should come together before the end of August. I'll also note that the sale price is uncertain - I'm still trying to decide on materials. 304 Stainless is getting so expensive, we're onsidering making the part w/ 439 stainless to keep the cost down. [If anyone has thoughts on that, feel free to comment.]

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Old 07-19-2007 | 11:11 AM
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Lookin good Brian, can't wait till the 6 speed ones are for sale.
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